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Re: Wow, that was fast
[Re: gryhkl]
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03/02/19 08:27 AM
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loosegoose
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To the extremists, on both the left and the right, anyone who does not toe the party line on every single item is a hypocrite. This group think is easier for the followers and the leaders, just pick a couple issues and the low hanging fruit falls into your basket. Nothing else needs to be done-their vote is counted well before the election. This. It's kinda like what Mitt Romney said: 47% of the people can be counted on to vote one way, 47% can be counted on to vote the other way, no matter who their candidate is or what their candidate does or says. It's only the 6% in the middle that they have to worry about swaying. I'm not sure why people got all upset at him for saying that, it seemed like common sense to me. Most people are willing to turn a blind eye, or even justify, the things their guy does that go against what they believe, things they'd rail a guy for if he was affiliated with a different political party.
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Re: Wow, that was fast
[Re: James]
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03/02/19 08:34 AM
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Missed it but guessing something about Trump. Just know if the economy keeps cookin', Trump wins a landslide in 2020.
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Re: Wow, that was fast
[Re: trapdog1]
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03/02/19 08:35 AM
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loosegoose
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It's always about picking the lesser of two evils. Always. I understand that mindset, especially in battle ground states where a single vote matters, even though I may not agree with it. But just because a person voted for the lesser of two evils, doesn't mean you can't call your guy out on something they did wrong. It's okay to say "hey, I don't like that politician did X. I voted for him because I thought he supported X, but when he did X it totally goes against that." No politician is perfect and they all do stupid stuff, that's why they're politicians 
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Re: Wow, that was fast
[Re: James]
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03/02/19 08:39 AM
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Re: Wow, that was fast
[Re: James]
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03/02/19 08:56 AM
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Lugnut
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Most of you "progressive" thinkers are missing the point here, and the point of the original post. The point is that a vote for a Democrat is usually a vote for restricting Second Amendment rights.
The question was ask; how do admitted Democratic voters reconcile their voting record with their desire to own and use guns.As usual the question was diverted, deflected and generally went unanswered while many irrelevant questions were ask and unrelated ideas postulated.
The same question can be ask in regards to our freedom to trap. I can point out many states where trapping has been sharply curtailed and/or severely over-regulated. The large majority of the elimination and over-regulation of trapping practices was accomplished by Democrats in Democrat-controlled states.
Yet there are many on this forum who proudly admit voting Democrat. Some of them even brag about it.
We who vote to protect or 2A and hunting/trapping rights would like to know why.
In the years I've been a member here, I've not seen any answers that make any kind of sense.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Wow, that was fast
[Re: Lugnut]
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03/02/19 09:02 AM
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loosegoose
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Most of you "progressive" thinkers are missing the point here, and the point of the original post. The point is that a vote for a Democrat is usually a vote for restricting Second Amendment rights.
The question was ask; how do admitted Democratic voters reconcile their voting record with their desire to own and use guns.As usual the question was diverted, deflected and generally went unanswered while many irrelevant questions were ask and unrelated ideas postulated.
The same question can be ask in regards to our freedom to trap. I can point out many states where trapping has been sharply curtailed and/or severely over-regulated. The large majority of the elimination and over-regulation of trapping practices was accomplished by Democrats in Democrat-controlled states.
Yet there are many on this forum who proudly admit voting Democrat. Some of them even brag about it.
We who vote to protect or 2A and hunting/trapping rights would like to know why.
In the years I've been a member here, I've not seen any answers that make any kind of sense.
I don't vote democrat (or republican) but I think the reason gun owners vote democrat is because guns are not the number one issue for them. Guns aren't the number one issue for a lot of people. They may feel that other social or economic issues are more important.
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Re: Wow, that was fast
[Re: James]
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03/02/19 09:05 AM
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You don't think guns and trapping rights should be one of the top issues for folks that frequent a trapping site?
2A rights should be at the top of every thinking persons list of voting priorities. Without the second, the other amendments don't stand much of a chance do they?
Eh...wot?
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Re: Wow, that was fast
[Re: Lugnut]
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03/02/19 09:09 AM
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loosegoose
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You don't think guns and trapping rights should be one of the top issues for folks that frequent a trapping site?
2A rights should be at the top of every thinking persons list of voting priorities. Without the second, the other amendments don't stand much of a chance do they?
I never said I thought gun and trapping rights should be one of the top priorities for folks that frequent a trapping site. I agree with what you're saying completely.
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Re: Wow, that was fast
[Re: Lugnut]
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03/02/19 09:10 AM
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Pike River
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You don't think guns and trapping rights should be one of the top issues for folks that frequent a trapping site?
2A rights should be at the top of every thinking persons list of voting priorities. Without the second, the other amendments don't stand much of a chance do they?
Goose didn't say that was his view....he stated that the majority of voters don't view gun rights as their primary concern. Your other questions are valid and should be talked about more in a rational manner by people in the mainstream, not just some little known trapping site.
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Re: Wow, that was fast
[Re: James]
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03/02/19 09:18 AM
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Without 2A, there will no longer be a Bill of Rights or any Constitutional protection. You will be told what to do and when to do it by your dictator. Anyone who doesn't vote, based on gun rights, is an idgit.
"The voice of reason!"
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Re: Wow, that was fast
[Re: James]
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03/02/19 09:19 AM
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coonlove
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I will NEVER vote for the baby murderers. If you don't have the right to life,what other rights do you think you have?
"I'm the paterfamilias"
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Re: Wow, that was fast
[Re: James]
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03/02/19 09:27 AM
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prin·ci·pleDictionary result for principle
/ˈprinsəpəl/Submit
noun
plural noun: principles
1.
a fundamental truth or proposition that serves as the foundation for a system of belief or behavior or for a chain of reasoning.
Is this what you speak of Lugnut?
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Re: Wow, that was fast
[Re: coonlove]
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03/02/19 10:01 AM
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I will NEVER vote for the baby murderers. If you don't have the right to life,what other rights do you think you have?
That's it! The individual has no rights! You will conform, do, and think as your told! What ever the popular flavor of the current party is. That's what you will like! If your lucky enough to survive the change of power every time it changes?
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