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Re: SD to start bounty program (residents only)
[Re: SD Coon Catcher]
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03/02/19 12:34 PM
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Law Dog
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Honor system but the abuse will be common you would think!
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: SD to start bounty program (residents only)
[Re: red mt]
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03/02/19 12:51 PM
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Look like better averages on coon tails than nafa is paying  Looks to be a $10 average! LOL
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: SD to start bounty program (residents only)
[Re: SD Coon Catcher]
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03/02/19 12:53 PM
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NE South Dakota
Foxlaketrapper
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Cohunt where can I find the proposed penalties? Are they on gfp website in the commissioner's minutes or located elsewhere.
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Re: SD to start bounty program (residents only)
[Re: Law Dog]
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03/02/19 12:53 PM
03/02/19 12:53 PM
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trapperkeck
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Look like better averages on coon tails than nafa is paying Looks to be a $10 average! LOL You will have to throw in the bob-tails to get a "true" average.
"The voice of reason!"
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Re: SD to start bounty program (residents only)
[Re: Foxlaketrapper]
#6478398
03/02/19 01:02 PM
03/02/19 01:02 PM
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Law Dog
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Cohunt where can I find the proposed penalties? Are they on gfp website in the commissioner's minutes or located elsewhere. You will need to sign a affidavit that they were taken in the manor your being paid for so that would be a start depending on the depth of the violations but proof would be tough to enforce you would think.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: SD to start bounty program (residents only)
[Re: Law Dog]
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03/02/19 02:03 PM
03/02/19 02:03 PM
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4 Fur
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The son of a friend attends SDSU and is able to buy a resident hunting and/or fishing license in addition to paying in-state resident tuition. Isn't he eligible? How about his 40 frat brothers? Bummer they missed out on the free cage traps but they didn't have anywhere to store them until they traded them for 12 packs of beer LOL! Not a well thought out program IMO. 
Life Member NTA, FHA and Iowa Trappers Association
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Re: SD to start bounty program (residents only)
[Re: 4 Fur]
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03/02/19 02:09 PM
03/02/19 02:09 PM
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The son of a friend attends SDSU and is able to buy a resident hunting and/or fishing license in addition to paying in-state resident tuition. Isn't he eligible? How about his 40 frat brothers? Bummer they missed out on the free cage traps but they didn't have anywhere to store them until they traded them for 12 packs of beer LOL! Not a well thought out program IMO. They just need to go to the SDSU wildlife Dept they have 100s of cages of all sizes I those silos.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: SD to start bounty program (residents only)
[Re: cohunt]
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03/02/19 02:18 PM
03/02/19 02:18 PM
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Frequently in both politics and biology, actions are governed by the art of the possible. While it is almost surely true that loss of habitat to support pheasants year around has been the major cause of the declines in their populations, BUT the entire cost of the nest predator reduction program as revealed to date would barely purchase one half of one section of land in the northeast portion of the state where I live. Even if that tiny plot of land was intensively managed for pheasants it would not have any measurable effect on their statewide population.
As far as the snarky comments about our new governor, I think that it is impressive that she is deeply invested in attempting to improve things in the state for the benefit of its residents and has implemented several programs of which the bounty program is one, in an attempt to help. In this world it often is true that not every new idea is a good idea and the bounty program as established to date may well not achieve the objective for which it is intended, but it is an attempt to do a good thing for the citizens of her state. Contrast that with the actions to date by the new leaders in MN and WI from which so many critics hail. "Attempting to do a good thing for the citizens" dosen't make it a good idea. Sounds like a democrat.
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Re: SD to start bounty program (residents only)
[Re: trapdog1]
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03/02/19 02:27 PM
03/02/19 02:27 PM
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Law Dog
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Frequently in both politics and biology, actions are governed by the art of the possible. While it is almost surely true that loss of habitat to support pheasants year around has been the major cause of the declines in their populations, BUT the entire cost of the nest predator reduction program as revealed to date would barely purchase one half of one section of land in the northeast portion of the state where I live. Even if that tiny plot of land was intensively managed for pheasants it would not have any measurable effect on their statewide population.
As far as the snarky comments about our new governor, I think that it is impressive that she is deeply invested in attempting to improve things in the state for the benefit of its residents and has implemented several programs of which the bounty program is one, in an attempt to help. In this world it often is true that not every new idea is a good idea and the bounty program as established to date may well not achieve the objective for which it is intended, but it is an attempt to do a good thing for the citizens of her state. Contrast that with the actions to date by the new leaders in MN and WI from which so many critics hail. "Attempting to do a good thing for the citizens" dosen't make it a good idea. Sounds like a democrat. Has more to do with the State income she is most likely looking to improve hunting is big business here.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: SD to start bounty program (residents only)
[Re: SD Coon Catcher]
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03/02/19 06:39 PM
03/02/19 06:39 PM
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Yep I don't think to many at the Fish and Game were up to speed on it and it's coming out of their pocket the way it sounds! New Governor that's moving forward and had done good things already just don't think this will a winner before it's all said and done.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: SD to start bounty program (residents only)
[Re: SD Coon Catcher]
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03/02/19 06:45 PM
03/02/19 06:45 PM
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Delta Waterfowl has shown higher nest depredation in low grass density areas, compared to high grass areas. So what does that tell you. They also have years of data, showing removing some, a few, half the predators does little to nothing to increases the hatch rate. To see a 10 percent change you pretty much have to clean out all the nest and bird eaters. That is a full time job for four months. At $10 a tail, you would be hard press to meet expenses.
"Not Really, Not Really"
Mark J Monti
"MJM you're a jerk."
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Re: SD to start bounty program (residents only)
[Re: MJM]
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03/02/19 07:09 PM
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Let's make no mistake, this was not the gf&p's idea nor were they consulted from what I've been told. This is what happens when uninformed people that evidently have influence with her are taken for their word. Let's be honest here, anyone who really understands how nature works realizes that without habitat it really doesn't matter what you do, you are not going to have a viable "wild" population. Which brings us to the heart of this matter, the fact that this is mostly pushed by some of our states pheasant farmers. Which makes this whole thing crazy to myself and several others. The overwhelming majority of pheasants shot on these "farms" were never in danger of being predated in the nests, they were hatched in a building!
Long live the MAGA King
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Re: SD to start bounty program (residents only)
[Re: SD Coon Catcher]
#6478693
03/02/19 07:37 PM
03/02/19 07:37 PM
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We could set up a lottery pool and bet how long this program lasts?? I guess it all depends if it costs Kristi any political baggage, how much does the state pays out the first year. She had a very competitive race for her office. it depends if anyone beyond a few thousand outdoor people give a rat's arse or not about the state starting new programs that has a hard time showing tangible results.
My youngest kid is a senior in hs and goes into the Army in July. He can get his usual summer job back in late April but he needs to make his car and insurance payments in April. He was excited at lunch today to whack critters starting April 1 for a Hamilton a tail. My coon cubbie boxes may be back in action by the time this snow is melting...
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
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Re: SD to start bounty program (residents only)
[Re: SD Coon Catcher]
#6478756
03/02/19 08:34 PM
03/02/19 08:34 PM
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Central, SD
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Just to be fair there was a survey on how habitat could be improved sent out by the Fish and Game Dept. not long ago so the bounty is not the only steps being taken as several directions are being looked at but this is just getting off the ground so we will see what happens.
A lot of them released birds come from Mcfarlains in WI around here but are advertised as wild birds at some places!
My hope is that the Anti GFP commissioner gets the boot from Noem ASAP.
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Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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