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22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder #6481092
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Can 22 lr be fired out of a 22 mag cylinder in a S&W revolver ? Found a deal on a gun but its a S&W 351 22 mag. Wanted the 22 LR for a pocket gun to carry on my tractor and for dispatch.

Re: 22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder [Re: Mr. Ed] #6481098
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It wasn't meant to be.Chambers are slightly bigger on .22 mags,as are bores,usually.I think there would be a possibility of cases splitting and accuracy shouldn't be as good as the .22mrf.

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Re: 22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder [Re: Mr. Ed] #6481111
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Check and see if you can order a 22 cylinder for it. I have both for a pistol.

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Re: 22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder [Re: Mr. Ed] #6481124
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I don't think they make them.It isn't like a single action where all you need is a cylinder.You also need an extra crane and yoke,fitted from the factory.AND,you need tools to change them out.Not like a single action at all.

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Re: 22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder [Re: Mr. Ed] #6481133
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I did it with my Ruger for years. But not sure if a SW is different.
The Ruger comes with interchangeable cylinders. Might want to go with one of them.

Re: 22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder [Re: Mr. Ed] #6481140
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I used long rifle ammo in a mag cylinder for years when I misplaced the lr cylinder. Cases always split but no problems other than that. Worked great as a dispatch weapon, no exit wound!


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Re: 22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder [Re: Mr. Ed] #6481192
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Was hoping that the 22lr/22mag was along the same lines as the 357/38. But I will call S&W customer service to get the actually take on it.

Re: 22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder [Re: Mr. Ed] #6481206
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You can slip a .22lr spent case inside a.22WMR spent case. As already mentioned the long rifle case will more often than not split when fired in a WMR chamber. The answer you get from S&W will be no. If you look on the barrel it should say .22WMR only. The WMR ammo is readily available again. Do your self a favor and buy the correct ammo the gun is chambered for.


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Re: 22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder [Re: Mr. Ed] #6481240
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I’ve done it but accuracy sucks and sometimes the case swells in the chamber and needs to be pried out.

Re: 22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder [Re: Mr. Ed] #6481357
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In addition to the problems listed above, the LR case is shorter as well skinnier. This lets powder and fowling fill the end of the wmr chamber making it difficult to load and extract .22 wmr's in the future. Same thing happens around the lessor diameter .22lr over the whole length of the cartridge. Gas and powder residue surround the whole case eventually making it impossible to load or extract .22 wmr's and eventually hard/impossible to load/unload .22lr. Especially if the gun is left loaded for long periods after shooting lr's.

Re: 22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder [Re: Mr. Ed] #6481364
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Re: 22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder [Re: Mr. Ed] #6481383
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Thats a long jump from the cylinder to the bbl.

Re: 22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder [Re: Mr. Ed] #6481417
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Ok for what you said you wanted the gun for the 22 MAG would work even better. If you are trying to stop an illegal immigrant 22 mag would do a better job.
Plus now that ammo has finally came back down it is pretty cheap.

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Re: 22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder [Re: Mr. Ed] #6481426
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Originally Posted by Mr. Ed
Was hoping that the 22lr/22mag was along the same lines as the 357/38. But I will call S&W customer service to get the actually take on it.


No,the .357 and .38 are identical in diameter and rim size so they could be interchanged in .357 chambered revolvers.

The .22 mag was designed bigger so people would not try to rechamber ,22lr,rifles.

The .22LR case is .226 diameter.The mag is .242 in diameter,with a bigger rim..22LR bores are usually .222" or .223".The mags are usually .224" bore diameter.The chamber differences cause a safety hazard.The bore differences wreck accuracy.I already know what S+W will say.There are plenty of great S+W,.22LR models that will work well for dispatch.Bargains,maybe not but they should last forever.Good luck with your search.

Re: 22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder [Re: Taximan] #6482160
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Originally Posted by Taximan
Originally Posted by Mr. Ed
Was hoping that the 22lr/22mag was along the same lines as the 357/38. But I will call S&W customer service to get the actually take on it.


No,the .357 and .38 are identical in diameter and rim size so they could be interchanged in .357 chambered revolvers.

The .22 mag was designed bigger so people would not try to rechamber ,22lr,rifles.

The .22LR case is .226 diameter.The mag is .242 in diameter,with a bigger rim..22LR bores are usually .222" or .223".The mags are usually .224" bore diameter.The chamber differences cause a safety hazard.The bore differences wreck accuracy.I already know what S+W will say.There are plenty of great S+W,.22LR models that will work well for dispatch.Bargains,maybe not but they should last forever.Good luck with your search.


Thanks Taximan for the info. I worked in the machine tool industry---actually cannon factory. Just assumed 22 cal was a 22 cal. Knew the 22 hornet was a tad different but that that rimfire was all the same diameter. What usually id to good to be true usually is. My original thread goes along with a prior thread of 22 trapline guns where I wanted anybody with info on a S&W 317 revolver that I wanted for a trapline/tractor carry/firewood cutting gun. Lt wt and did not need much more than 15 foot accuracy. Thanks for the input guys. Ed

Re: 22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder [Re: Mr. Ed] #6482187
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Re: 22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder [Re: Mr. Ed] #6482194
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I here a lot of guys talking about using the 317.I have been using the S+W 63 for many,many years.It is a little heavier at 25 ounces but I still can't notice I have it on and those ounces help steady it some when shooting at small game.The 317 is superlight,should be more than adequate for dispatch and even some smallgame work.Those Smiths have tight chambers and bores which leads to accuracy.

Re: 22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder [Re: Mr. Ed] #6482207
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How about lighter loads?

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Originally Posted by cci
How about lighter loads?

That is a .22 LR.

Re: 22 lr in a 22 mag cylinder [Re: Mr. Ed] #6482242
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Think of it this way: Shooting a 22lr out of a 22mag is like shooting a 243 win out of a 308 win. It will work but it is not the best idea. Lower pressure and less accuracy.

I have a single six. I have shot a bunch of 22lr out of the mag cylinder. It works and they are quieter. If you are only looking to use it as a dispatch gun then you would be fine as long as you are getting a good deal on the gun. Just remember to clean the cylinder well. Tho, there are better options.

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