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Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: Finster] #6486242
03/09/19 08:29 PM
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Lindsey has always been a limp wrist. The only time I have ever seen him show some stones was the Kavanaugh hearing. I can't say I'm shocked but I am disappointed.


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Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: Finster] #6486247
03/09/19 08:36 PM
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^^^ Yup


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: Finster] #6486443
03/09/19 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Finster
Originally Posted by JakeDog
Lindsey Graham is now supporting this. Just NO --

Link?

Originally Posted by Finster
Originally Posted by JakeDog
Lindsey Graham is now supporting this. Just NO --

Link?


Read it on breitbart I think - he said this was a point where the dems and GOP could come together!


Suppression rules/prevention drools

Confidence is going fly fishing for Moby Dick, in a row boat, and bringing tartar sauce with you.
Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: Finster] #6486449
03/09/19 11:13 PM
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Suppression rules/prevention drools

Confidence is going fly fishing for Moby Dick, in a row boat, and bringing tartar sauce with you.
Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6486467
03/09/19 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Why can law enforcement not be held personally liable when they violate peoples rights? If this law is found unconstitutional the officers themselves should be held responsible.


If you haven't already, get a copy of "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross... It is currently out of print so physical copies are rare and expensive. But I was able to get it in PDF format for free.

Read it.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

Vladimir Lenin
Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6486636
03/10/19 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Why can law enforcement not be held personally liable when they violate peoples rights? If this law is found unconstitutional the officers themselves should be held responsible.


Because where would you find officers willing to work under that condition? Besides, is it fair to blame the LEO who was told what to do by the Chief and attorney for the police department? What are you supposed to do if you're an LEO in the field and the city attorney says the confiscation is constitutional?

Jim


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Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: James] #6486652
03/10/19 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by James
What are you supposed to do if you're an LEO in the field and the city attorney says the confiscation is constitutional?

Jim


If it were me, I'd just point out that fact that I can read. Got a copy right here, want to take a peek?

Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: James] #6486710
03/10/19 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Why can law enforcement not be held personally liable when they violate peoples rights? If this law is found unconstitutional the officers themselves should be held responsible.


Because where would you find officers willing to work under that condition? Besides, is it fair to blame the LEO who was told what to do by the Chief and attorney for the police department? What are you supposed to do if you're an LEO in the field and the city attorney says the confiscation is constitutional?

Jim


I'd find a new job before I went against my own principals.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: Finster] #6486726
03/10/19 10:40 AM
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Our LIO officers are just like the Nazi in Germany, they do what they are told. I am not saying they are Nazi's. But they have to follow orders. We have some fine officers out there doing the best they can within the frame work they work under.


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Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: Finster] #6486775
03/10/19 11:19 AM
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Law enforcement WILL come to take away your firearms when they are ordered to do so, regardless of the 2nd amendment. When the law is made it will be enforced. Even if they don't agree with it , it's going to happen.

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Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: Finster] #6486851
03/10/19 12:40 PM
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Most people will just give the guns up because they are soft. Unfortunately the whole disarming and fall of America is pretty much unavoidable at this point and it is just a matter of time. The trends are easy to see as is the fact that there has been no resistance in states where they already have illegalized many firearms. How many people that you know are ready to walk away from all they have just to be free? Not many cops are going to walk away from their pensions just to preserve the rights of someone who is not a cop. Sorry to be talking the truth but the truth is what it is and the result as I see it is unavoidable.


I wonder how long it will be before the sanctuary county sheriff's are dealt with? First you would probably need a federal law that they do not want to enforce and then the feds will deal with them all. (I think there is legislation to that effect introduced in congress) After all letting people keep their guns is not like letting people smoke/sell weed or shelter/support illegals......most of the population of sheep see those as harmless things and they see guns as evil. The sheep are anti gun because they cannot imagine actually defending themselves, that's why they are sheep. Then you have the second supporters who think the same way.....only they want hunting/sporting guns only, because they also cannot imagine having to defend their freedom which makes them sheep also. A nation of soft sheep will not keep its freedoms for long because they will vote/support those who say they will protect them and care for them but the reality is that those who say they will do that really just want complete control and once they have that it is all over. It is an unfortunate and disconcerting situation.


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Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: JakeDog] #6486907
03/10/19 01:38 PM
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Yep, this could be put into the back-stabbing thread. It's no surprise tho. Just look at how many gun owners on h ere vote for worse, a democrat.

Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: Finster] #6486935
03/10/19 02:13 PM
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Then you have the second supporters who think the same way.....only they want hunting/sporting guns only, because they also cannot imagine having to defend their freedom which makes them sheep also


The reason class 3 firearms are so expensive is there are not enough to arm all the people willing to get permission and pay the tax. You have on multiple occasions said background checks, class 3 license, concealed carry license are all good ideas. Now you are disparaging people who wont pay 20 grand for a military grade weapon. If the ban on purchase of weapons made after 1986 were lifted the cost would be 1/10th of what they are today and more people would have them.

I still would not because I'm not going to ask permission then pay a bribe, I mean a tax, to exorcise a right. If the day comes where I need to use one of my firearms as a weapon in a war battle, if I'm alive after the battle, there will be plenty of military weapons to choose from.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: danny clifton] #6486940
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
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Then you have the second supporters who think the same way.....only they want hunting/sporting guns only, because they also cannot imagine having to defend their freedom which makes them sheep also


The reason class 3 firearms are so expensive is there are not enough to arm all the people willing to get permission and pay the tax. You have on multiple occasions said background checks, class 3 license, concealed carry license are all good ideas. Now you are disparaging people who wont pay 20 grand for a military grade weapon. If the ban on purchase of weapons made after 1986 were lifted the cost would be 1/10th of what they are today and more people would have them.

I still would not because I'm not going to ask permission then pay a bribe, I mean a tax, to exorcise a right. If the day comes where I need to use one of my firearms as a weapon in a war battle, if I'm alive after the battle, there will be plenty of military weapons to choose from.

Now you need to be careful about how you express you're opinions, in a growing number of blue states you might get red flagged for this kind of talk.

Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: Finster] #6486949
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Great part about the United State is if you don’t like a certain states laws, move to another state. I don’t feel bad for anyone getting their guns taken away one California. If a majority of the people in a state want a law, then the law should be made.


If traps work like the Antis say......I would have no fingers.


Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: Finster] #6486950
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States absolutely do not have the authority to make it illegal for a person to exorcise a right. The people in CA who think gun ownership is dangerous have every right not to buy one.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: cat_trapper_nv] #6486959
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Originally Posted by cat_trapper_nv
Great part about the United State is if you don’t like a certain states laws, move to another state. I don’t feel bad for anyone getting their guns taken away one California. If a majority of the people in a state want a law, then the law should be made.
A law that does NOT infringe on a God given Constitutional right!


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Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: Finster] #6486978
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Originally Posted by Finster
Originally Posted by cat_trapper_nv
Great part about the United State is if you don’t like a certain states laws, move to another state. I don’t feel bad for anyone getting their guns taken away one California. If a majority of the people in a state want a law, then the law should be made.
A law that does NOT infringe on a God given Constitutional right!


If enough people in a California believed that the. They could get it changed. Plus that law isn’t infringing on anyone’s rights. They can still have guns. Majority wins in this country and I wouldn’t want it any other way


If traps work like the Antis say......I would have no fingers.


Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: Finster] #6486982
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Your could not be more wrong cat_trapper_nv. This country is not and never has been a democracy. Its a constitutional republic. The constitution can be amended but if it is not amended states are obligated to uphold it as is.

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Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: What gun registration and confiscation looks like [Re: cat_trapper_nv] #6486983
03/10/19 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cat_trapper_nv
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If enough people in a California believed that the. They could get it changed. Plus that law isn’t infringing on anyone’s rights. [u]They can still have guns. Majority wins in this country and I wouldn’t want it any other way[/u]


Errrr nope ..... I don't have the time or the crayons to explain it to you, but you could have a go at comparing a constitutional republic to a democracy and then get back on here

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Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
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