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Companies given exemptions for killing eagles #6487059
03/10/19 04:41 PM
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According to the American Eagle Foundation, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service are giving wind turbine companies a 30 year permit that certain amount of eagles and other birds can be killed by the turbines. It was reported one turbine in California alone killed 10 eagles in a 10 year period. Al Cecere, president of the Foundation, said this permit is essentially a 30 year hunting license to kill eagles and birds that may result in millions of dead birds. On the brighter side, older turbines are being replaced with much larger ones that can generate more power essentially reducing the number of turbines in an area by 1/2. The turbine companies are now starting to work with groups like the Audubon Society to strategically build the new turbines to reduce the potential of killing birds especially in nesting sites.

Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6487061
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Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: pcr2] #6487065
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Originally Posted by pcr2
its a start. whistle


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Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6487086
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Need to thin them out. Things are every where.

Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6487093
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Should have stayed with Ben Franklin's idea on the Turkey .


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Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: red mt] #6487140
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Yup we wanted a more macho symbol with a meaner and more elegant appearance and then we found out they are for the most part scavengers, flying opossums but then we need those too with 300 million automobiles on our roads.

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Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6487164
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Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. It's not like they are threatened or even particularly rare.

Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6487243
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Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6487250
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What a waste. The windmill hoax rivals Cash for Clunkers. Particularly dislike their effect on weather and the environment


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Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6487274
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Should read ," why it's the end of the line for wind power" - Forbes


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Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6487284
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Friggin things are an abomination. Ban electricity, Eagle population goes up, we get to grill baby bald eagle on 4th of July. Next problem!

Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6487718
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They don't call them Eagle Eaters for nothing!

Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6487822
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Numbers of eagles killed by wind turbines pale in comparison to the numbers killed by trains and other vehicles in NYS. Between 2006 and 2013, 78 eagles were killed by vehicles and trains which equates to 34% of eagle mortality in NYS. Most modern wind turbines come nowhere near that percentage, regarding eagle mortality...


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Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6487875
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At least they are being killed by green power. Ever wonder why the contamination from hydraulic oil when one has a leak that is bad is not a problem but a car turns over it becomes a hazmat situation.


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Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6487910
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I live by a lot of windmills and have farmed around them for years I have yet to see an eagle killed by one let alone any other bird. Now regular power polls I see hawks and lots of birds hanging on them next to the poles


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Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6487912
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Not like we are running out of eagles. I have seen a couple eagles almost get hit by cars because they are too greedy or dumb to get off of a roadkill in time.


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Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6487964
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Can we really believe anything that California says? I'm guessing the actual numbers are inline with what Snowpa experiences.
Maybe I'll shove a few up by my rats sloughs...that all have an eagles nest on them.
I do like seeing the eagles but Sheese the numbers are exploding....not the other way around.

Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6488126
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I live right on the Upper Iowa there are nests every few miles and they are all being used

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Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6488793
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Windmills do kill a lot of birds, and eagles are one of the species. The exemption is nothing more than someone picking winners and losers, and applying standards differently, solely to "subsidize" or allow one industry an advantage.

A few years ago here, a power company was building a new hydro dam and power house. They had every eagle nest, active and abandoned surveyed and marked. Long story short, during one of the blasts to the mountain, a chunk of rock knocked down a dead tree, with an OLD abandoned Eagles nest in it.

Feds fined them $1,000,000 for destroying an abandoned nest. This was in S.E. AK where eagles are as abundant as seagulls...

yet, near anchorage, a windfarm was built with stimulus money and it chops eagles and piles of other birds up on the regular, and no one cares.


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Re: Companies given exemptions for killing eagles [Re: Hupurest] #6488823
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Originally Posted by Hupurest
Windmills do kill a lot of birds, and eagles are one of the species. The exemption is nothing more than someone picking winners and losers, and applying standards differently, solely to "subsidize" or allow one industry an advantage.

A few years ago here, a power company was building a new hydro dam and power house. They had every eagle nest, active and abandoned surveyed and marked. Long story short, during one of the blasts to the mountain, a chunk of rock knocked down a dead tree, with an OLD abandoned Eagles nest in it.

Feds fined them $1,000,000 for destroying an abandoned nest. This was in S.E. AK where eagles are as abundant as seagulls...

yet, near anchorage, a windfarm was built with stimulus money and it chops eagles and piles of other birds up on the regular, and no one cares.


Yep, the double standard in this country is appaling....and getting worse every year.


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