Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them?
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
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03/11/19 03:18 PM
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That’s a tough one. I trapped just over a hill from a 2 track when I lived in Idaho. One check I had a stick in both sets I had made so I pulled them and hiked back aways. It was about 30 min from the time I left the truck, till I started heading back. While making sets I heard ATVs driving down the 2 track which isn’t anything out of the ordinary on a Saturday. Got back to my truck and headed to the main rd. All of a sudden all my indicators on my dash go off and my truck locks up. I try starting it back up but don’t get anything but a load clunk. Pop the hood, check the oil, and it’s empty. Call my cousin who brings me 5 quarts, and I hear dripping under my truck as I pour the oil in. No oil plug. That’s when it hits me, someone loosened my oil plug. Called the Sheriff and he followed my cousin and I to where I mad those sets. Sure enough you could see where someone stepped off their ATV (wet sand), and slid under my truck. Good thing I got good overage on my insurance because I got the motor replaced and only had to pay a $500 deductible.
So if you do set close and find someone doesn’t like you there, don’t leave your truck unattended
If traps work like the Antis say......I would have no fingers.
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Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them?
[Re: cat_trapper_nv]
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03/12/19 12:02 AM
03/12/19 12:02 AM
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TONY.F
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That’s a tough one. I trapped just over a hill from a 2 track when I lived in Idaho. One check I had a stick in both sets I had made so I pulled them and hiked back aways. It was about 30 min from the time I left the truck, till I started heading back. While making sets I heard ATVs driving down the 2 track which isn’t anything out of the ordinary on a Saturday. Got back to my truck and headed to the main rd. All of a sudden all my indicators on my dash go off and my truck locks up. I try starting it back up but don’t get anything but a load clunk. Pop the hood, check the oil, and it’s empty. Call my cousin who brings me 5 quarts, and I hear dripping under my truck as I pour the oil in. No oil plug. That’s when it hits me, someone loosened my oil plug. Called the Sheriff and he followed my cousin and I to where I mad those sets. Sure enough you could see where someone stepped off their ATV (wet sand), and slid under my truck. Good thing I got good overage on my insurance because I got the motor replaced and only had to pay a $500 deductible.
So if you do set close and find someone doesn’t like you there, don’t leave your truck unattended or park on top of a bear trap then they will have a good reason to dislike trappers
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Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them?
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
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03/12/19 08:34 AM
03/12/19 08:34 AM
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Wright Brothers
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Hi guys, this was my reply on drags post. I don't use drags often but they sure do have their place.
I can some what steer the direction of departure with an angled stick driven into the ground, pointed the way I want him to go. Hook the drag so it will only slip off one way. One spot I use this is where I don't want him to go up, down, or across the road. Another is where I want him down over the edge. The words never or always do not apply here.
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Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them?
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
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03/12/19 09:07 AM
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Wright Brothers
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I was told of this by a no name trapper probably 30 some years ago. I had not read of it on the net but I have not yet finished the internet lol. Doesn't hurt to reinvent common sense.
Asa talked of burying the drag under the trap, I have not done that. Lots of ways to skin the cat.
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Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them?
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
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03/12/19 11:52 AM
03/12/19 11:52 AM
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The Beav
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I have used that system but It pretty much only works when you have brush close by. If that brush Is 100s of yards away It's a toss up In what direction the coyote Is going to go.
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Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them?
[Re: Golf ball]
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03/12/19 03:08 PM
03/12/19 03:08 PM
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Hi guys, this was my reply on drags post. I don't use drags often but they sure do have their place. I can some what steer the direction of departure with an angled stick driven into the ground, pointed the way I want him to go. Hook the drag so it will only slip off one way. One spot I use this is where I don't want him to go up, down, or across the road. Another is where I want him down over the edge. The words never or always do not apply here.
WB that is a well known trappers method of putting them where he wants them . He used a piece of 3/8” rebar driven at an angle and the top pointed in the direction he wants the coyote to travel . He uses this to put said coyote in the brush or on to ground where he has access. Excuse my naivety guys, but I don’t quite understand how the stick or rebar will steer the critter in the right direction. If I have a drag with a 10 foot chain and place the drag itself 10 foot behind the buried trap and I want the caught animal to also travel to the rear of the trap set, where do you place the stick and how far from the set? How does placing the stick at an angle help accomplish this?
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Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them?
[Re: Golf ball]
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03/12/19 04:26 PM
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The drag will only come off the stick or rebar in the direction they are pointed . Drive the rebar pointed north at about a 30 degree angle and the drag can only come off if the coyote pulls to the north . Thanks. Got it.
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Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them?
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
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03/12/19 05:21 PM
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The Beav
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And Like I said that's only for a few yards then the coyotes goes where It wants to go.
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Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them?
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
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03/13/19 08:00 AM
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This was my first year trapping and I exclusively trap on public lands. Luckily, for me after the last day of deer season (first week of January) there isn't a hunter in sight. I do run into the occasional hiker who acts like I'm the weird one walking in the woods in Jan. I only set coyote sets for a week this year, but all the fields and sign are within walking distance and are on trails. I am worried myself about what will happen when I check my traps late and a hiker or wildlife worker runs upon a coyote/fox chilling at the edge of a field in my trap. I will have to deal with it on a case by case basis. I'd hope they would have the respect to leave it alone. As far as my traps I doubt anyone would find them unless attached to a animal. IMO if your dog gets caught in my trap that's on you! Public hunting land is just that, if you want to walk your dog go to a park.
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Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them?
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
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03/13/19 11:51 AM
03/13/19 11:51 AM
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The Beav
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I lost the first wolf I ever caught (Canada) ran right down the mining road and as far as I could tell It never left the road.
The other thing about drags Is If you have much open ground and you get any type of snow fall your going to be doing a lot of searching If you made a catch before It snowed.
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Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them?
[Re: The Beav]
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03/13/19 12:50 PM
03/13/19 12:50 PM
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I lost the first wolf I ever caught (Canada) ran right down the mining road and as far as I could tell It never left the road.
The other thing about drags Is If you have much open ground and you get any type of snow fall your going to be doing a lot of searching If you made a catch before It snowed. That can easily be solved buy purchasing a Lazarus trapline dog. Haha, I'll be running about 1/4 of my traps on drags this season. I'm hoping my lab can use his nose to find fur haha.
If traps work like the Antis say......I would have no fingers.
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Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them?
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
#6489774
03/13/19 02:44 PM
03/13/19 02:44 PM
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Steelflight
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All I will add to this is don't set on the side of a hiking trail. That's garunteed trouble.
You may think before you act. The question is did you listen to your own council?
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Re: To hide your canine sets or not hide them?
[Re: Steelflight]
#6490792
03/14/19 01:44 PM
03/14/19 01:44 PM
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All I will add to this is don't set on the side of a hiking trail. That's garunteed trouble. I second that! Just had a problem not too far from where I live that made the local news although the sets where apparentlely legal. We need to use some common sense.
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