No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers *** No Politics
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
is it my alternator??? #6489463
03/13/19 08:38 AM
03/13/19 08:38 AM
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,991
shelbyville, illinois 46years ...
foxkidd44 Offline OP
trapper
foxkidd44  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,991
shelbyville, illinois 46years ...
okay gang......I noticed my battery light + - came on last night while driving to work............when I gave it some gas...it went off......when I let off......it came back on.........so I unhooked the cable while running......and truck died.....today its not coming on...like no issues at all.......is the alternator failing?? my first guess is yes.....................but I hate to replace it if its not.........those aint cheap


Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last.
Abraham Lincoln
Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6489464
03/13/19 08:39 AM
03/13/19 08:39 AM
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 163
Grand Rapids, MN
D
deerdragger Offline
trapper
deerdragger  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 163
Grand Rapids, MN
Could just be a loose battery clamp. Check charging voltage (should be 14.something volts).

Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6489468
03/13/19 08:41 AM
03/13/19 08:41 AM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 177
mo.
N
nate Offline
trapper
nate  Offline
trapper
N

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 177
mo.
Yes. You can get them checked as well but it's the altinater.

Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6489470
03/13/19 08:43 AM
03/13/19 08:43 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,334
Perham Minnesota 54
R
racerboy108 Offline
trapper
racerboy108  Offline
trapper
R

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,334
Perham Minnesota 54
I would say yes on the alternator.

If your battery is old I would replace as well.

Under power current is hard on all electrical components.

Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6489483
03/13/19 09:12 AM
03/13/19 09:12 AM
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 2,245
Greene County,Virginia
R
run Offline
trapper
run  Offline
trapper
R

Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 2,245
Greene County,Virginia
Maybe the alternator belt is worn out. I'm not a mechanic.

Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6489499
03/13/19 09:30 AM
03/13/19 09:30 AM
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 187
worcester co MD
L
lady123 Offline
trapper
lady123  Offline
trapper
L

Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 187
worcester co MD
check the belt for tension first. cables for tightness and corrosion . then if you dont have test equipment go to advance auto of some place that will test alternator and battery for free. I would start will belt tension first it sounds like something is slipping .dont know what kind of vehicle but older models have a voltage regulator . newer ones are built in to the alternator. hope that helps

Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6489500
03/13/19 09:31 AM
03/13/19 09:31 AM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 3,360
Wi.
D
Diggerman Offline
trapper
Diggerman  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 3,360
Wi.
Voltage regulator? Most nowadays are internal but not real hard to change. There is a hole in back of the alternator that you can stick a wire in and ground it, if you hear the alt pull down then its the VR.

Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: Diggerman] #6489529
03/13/19 09:58 AM
03/13/19 09:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,484
Alaska and Washington State
W
waggler Offline
trapper
waggler  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,484
Alaska and Washington State
Tonight when it gets dark start your truck up park it about ten feet away from a wall with your headlights aiming at the wall, and turn off the engine but leave the lights on. If the lights dim when you turn the truck off that means your alternator is working okay. But if the lights don't dim when you turn it off that means your alternator or something else in the charging system is shot


My life is better than your vacation
Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6489550
03/13/19 10:29 AM
03/13/19 10:29 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,078
williamsburg ks
D
danny clifton Offline
trapper
danny clifton  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,078
williamsburg ks
unhooking a cable is the old standby shade tree way to check the alternator. if the hot wire isn't corroded, if the belt is good, you need a new one. usually when they start going bad you need to turn on your headlights and heater blower before the vehicle dies. keep running a low amp/voltage charger your going to damage your battery. car/pickup batteries are not made to draw way down like a marine battery. it shortens their life a bunch.


Ban private vehicles now. They are killing too much wildlife and too many children.
Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6489570
03/13/19 10:43 AM
03/13/19 10:43 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,894
Sandhills Nebraska
G
Gary Benson Offline
trapper
Gary Benson  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,894
Sandhills Nebraska
If you can get to the back of the alternator, you can also put a screwdriver against the center of the alternator where the bearing is..if you feel a magnetic pull grab the screwdriver, it's charging. Not a good idea though. If you touch the wrong terminal back there you will pee down your leg.


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6489574
03/13/19 10:45 AM
03/13/19 10:45 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,894
Sandhills Nebraska
G
Gary Benson Offline
trapper
Gary Benson  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,894
Sandhills Nebraska
I keep a $30 load tester/alternator tester handy. I've found many discarded batteries that were discarded for the wrong reason, and were still good batteries.


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: Diggerman] #6489593
03/13/19 11:02 AM
03/13/19 11:02 AM
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 684
Kansas
P
Pawnee Offline
trapper
Pawnee  Offline
trapper
P

Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 684
Kansas
Originally Posted by Diggerman
Voltage regulator? Most nowadays are internal but not real hard to change. There is a hole in back of the alternator that you can stick a wire in and ground it, if you hear the alt pull down then its the VR.


That’s my guess too. We got 60 miles from home on our trip and my alternator shot craps. Luckily O’Riellys auto parts was open. I walked in and told them I was confident my voltage reg was out. They tested for free and said it was. Bought a new one and they let me borrow some tools and 10 minutes later we where on the road. First time I was in one of their stores. Great people


Hal is my Hero
Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6489611
03/13/19 11:13 AM
03/13/19 11:13 AM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 915
Maine
J
Jonnytrapper Offline
trapper
Jonnytrapper  Offline
trapper
J

Joined: May 2016
Posts: 915
Maine
You shouldn't unhook the battery in a modern car. It's capacitance is used like a filter for the voltage coming off the alternator for the sensitive electronics in modern vehicles. The voltage regulator can be internal, external (mostly older cars) or in the vehicles computer.

Belt, battery connections, alternator connections, voltage regulator, alternator. Should have around 14v at the battery with the car running and lights on. If your alternator ends up being bad make sure your battery is good. Weak battery can tax an alternator and cause it to fail.

Last edited by Jonnytrapper; 03/13/19 12:06 PM.
Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6489680
03/13/19 12:31 PM
03/13/19 12:31 PM
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 516
Northern Missouri
Northmocats Offline
trapper
Northmocats  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 516
Northern Missouri
Get a volt meter. Test the battery with the Vehicle off... Start the Car test the battery while running. That will tell you if she is charging or not.

Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6489687
03/13/19 12:36 PM
03/13/19 12:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 3,360
Wi.
D
Diggerman Offline
trapper
Diggerman  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 3,360
Wi.
I think he already established the not charging part.

Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6489721
03/13/19 01:18 PM
03/13/19 01:18 PM
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 6,129
MT
snowy Offline
trapper
snowy  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 6,129
MT
Start it then disconnect the hot lead from your battery. If the engines dies it is the alternator.

Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6489936
03/13/19 05:55 PM
03/13/19 05:55 PM
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,991
shelbyville, illinois 46years ...
foxkidd44 Offline OP
trapper
foxkidd44  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,991
shelbyville, illinois 46years ...
thanks for the tips guys.......I didn't know they had a portable tester............i'm still old school.......take it off...put it on a machine to test.........lol.

went to o'reillys and they put a tester on it.............alternator is fine...........passed the test...........belt was slipping.......I dismissed the belt at first because I replaced it 2 years ago.....................but with closer examination.......that seems to be the culprit


Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last.
Abraham Lincoln
Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6489990
03/13/19 06:53 PM
03/13/19 06:53 PM
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 4,810
Asheville, NC
C
charles Offline
trapper
charles  Offline
trapper
C

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 4,810
Asheville, NC
I was 100 miles from home one cold winter night when my headlights started to fail. Made it to a service station. Two young kids on duty. They had the altonator I needed and an hour later had mine replaced. Gave them my credit card and paid. One kid then said "we never checked to see if the belt was slipping". They put my original alternator back on and snugged the belt. They test machine said it was perfect. They reversed the charge and apologized. Made me a happy motorist. Also fill up there now when passing through.

Wonder what their dad said the next day.

Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6490287
03/13/19 10:55 PM
03/13/19 10:55 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,078
williamsburg ks
D
danny clifton Offline
trapper
danny clifton  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,078
williamsburg ks
their dad probably taught them to be honest. may have barked a bit cause they didn't check the belt and the hot wire first


Ban private vehicles now. They are killing too much wildlife and too many children.
Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6490291
03/13/19 10:59 PM
03/13/19 10:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 11,382
North East Kansas
Marty Offline
trapper
Marty  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 11,382
North East Kansas
tagged


High Speed/Low Drag...grin
Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6490336
03/13/19 11:39 PM
03/13/19 11:39 PM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 589
upstate NY
M
Mr. Ed Offline
trapper
Mr. Ed  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 589
upstate NY
Check belt tension and then rev it a tad and you should have 14 volts minimal.

Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6490368
03/14/19 12:23 AM
03/14/19 12:23 AM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,443
Idaho Falls, ID
F
Furvor Offline
trapper
Furvor  Offline
trapper
F

Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,443
Idaho Falls, ID
Quote
............when I gave it some gas...it went off......when I let off......it came back on.........


That means the alternator was working at least to some extent. I would first check the battery (or have someone check to see if it will take a charge).

Last edited by Furvor; 03/14/19 12:29 AM.

Economics 101: Wealth has to be earned. Legislation can transfer it from one person to another but cannot generate it.
Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6490372
03/14/19 12:27 AM
03/14/19 12:27 AM
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 3,582
Ky
J
jbyrd63 Offline
trapper
jbyrd63  Offline
trapper
J

Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 3,582
Ky
Go by auto zone LOL they test for free

Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6490397
03/14/19 03:10 AM
03/14/19 03:10 AM
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,991
shelbyville, illinois 46years ...
foxkidd44 Offline OP
trapper
foxkidd44  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,991
shelbyville, illinois 46years ...
welp,,,I was premature in my judgement..........the blasted + - light came on again..........so I did this tonite"Tonight when it gets dark start your truck up park it about ten feet away from a wall with your headlights aiming at the wall, and turn off the engine but leave the lights on. If the lights dim when you turn the truck off that means your alternator is working okay. But if the lights don't dim when you turn it off that means your alternator or something else in the charging system is shot"

lights did not dim..............so I guess im just gonna have to see if I can get a remanufactured alternator...even though there little machine said it passes the test.


the voltage light does fluctuate.............so i'm thinking the alternator is working...........then not working............then back to working. is that possible??

Last edited by foxkidd44; 03/14/19 03:36 AM.

Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last.
Abraham Lincoln
Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6490410
03/14/19 05:05 AM
03/14/19 05:05 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,078
williamsburg ks
D
danny clifton Offline
trapper
danny clifton  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,078
williamsburg ks
yes its absolutely possible. likely the internal voltage regulator as has been said by others. you need to get if fixed before you damage your battery.


Ban private vehicles now. They are killing too much wildlife and too many children.
Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6490527
03/14/19 09:11 AM
03/14/19 09:11 AM
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,991
shelbyville, illinois 46years ...
foxkidd44 Offline OP
trapper
foxkidd44  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,991
shelbyville, illinois 46years ...
just got back from oreilys..............alternator costed 30 coon...................lol.


Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last.
Abraham Lincoln
Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6491583
03/15/19 11:42 AM
03/15/19 11:42 AM
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,991
shelbyville, illinois 46years ...
foxkidd44 Offline OP
trapper
foxkidd44  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,991
shelbyville, illinois 46years ...
alternator was in fact...the culprit


Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last.
Abraham Lincoln
Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6491631
03/15/19 01:15 PM
03/15/19 01:15 PM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 915
Maine
J
Jonnytrapper Offline
trapper
Jonnytrapper  Offline
trapper
J

Joined: May 2016
Posts: 915
Maine
Glad you got it fixed. Internal regulator I'm guessing? Brushes usually work or they don't...

Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6491730
03/15/19 04:41 PM
03/15/19 04:41 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,310
Oakland, MS
Drifter Offline
trapper
Drifter  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,310
Oakland, MS
Glad you got it sorted out. Electric gremlins can be frustrating to find at times.


�Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves. � � Winston Churchill








Life member NTA , and GA Trappers assoc .
Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6491821
03/15/19 06:39 PM
03/15/19 06:39 PM
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 303
ohio
J
jctunnelrat Offline
trapper
jctunnelrat  Offline
trapper
J

Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 303
ohio
Originally Posted by foxkidd44
just got back from oreilys..............alternator costed 30 coon...................lol.

$15.00 for an alternator? That's pretty good!


jim
Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6491957
03/15/19 09:18 PM
03/15/19 09:18 PM
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 303
ohio
J
jctunnelrat Offline
trapper
jctunnelrat  Offline
trapper
J

Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 303
ohio
That may sound sarcastic but it wasn't meant to be sarcastic. It was meant to be funny. We do not get anything for coons around here since the 70's. $30.00 to $40.00 range was about the average back then. Now we get $6.00 to $10.00 (for a good one).


jim
Re: is it my alternator??? [Re: foxkidd44] #6492137
03/16/19 05:56 AM
03/16/19 05:56 AM
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,991
shelbyville, illinois 46years ...
foxkidd44 Offline OP
trapper
foxkidd44  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,991
shelbyville, illinois 46years ...
I averaged 5 bucks on my finished coon..........so I figured roughly 5x30=150.00 . it is sad though........those 20-30 dollar coon a few years back kind of got us hopin those 70s prices were comin back...........but alas. we do it because we are compelled to do it.....lol


Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last.
Abraham Lincoln
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread