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Re: Ultimate Smallgame trap [Re: upstateNY] #6486148
03/09/19 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
I would make a Blake and Lamb #1 double long spring. smile

That would cover everything from otter on down, especially if you were to add a pan with adjustable tension.

Re: Ultimate Smallgame trap [Re: Wolfdog91] #6489335
03/13/19 02:06 AM
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In a survival type scenario, a ladder type sparrow trap, like the Swedish crow trap and a mist net, would keep you well fed.

My friend Sandy, who died of cancer, used to catch many thousands of sparrows and starlings a year, in a 4' tall sparrow trap, that was 6' long and 4' wide She almost never baited the trap. She just left live sparrows and starlings in it to lure in other birds. It caught lots of bronze headed cowbirds and some grackles, blackbirds and coopers hawks too. Some days in the Fall, she would catch over 300 birds in the trap. She kept a journal of daily catches for many years. I miss her badly.

A mist net is light weight, compresses well and could be hung to catch almost any type of bird and even small mammals, if you're close by to take them out. You could easily drive rabbits and other small rodents into a mist net.

For larger game a 330 and apples or corn for deer and 220s and corn for geese would keep you well fed.

Keith

Re: Ultimate Smallgame trap [Re: Wolfdog91] #6489344
03/13/19 04:21 AM
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I live in ks. there are enough cattle to feed all of us kansans indefinitely. unless maybe the local nuke plant melts down. then we will die along with the cattle. in case of emp or something I think trading work cutting hay with a scythe or whatever would buy a steer if your not already raising them. I doubt it would take long before a barter system was up and running. guy hauling salt for example with a team and wagon from one of the salt mines. I think we would just get tougher, work as hard as our ancestors did.


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Re: Ultimate Smallgame trap [Re: Wolfdog91] #6490424
03/14/19 05:48 AM
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I find it hard to beat a K.B. 5X5. It works quite well for catching small animals. They are hard to find.


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Re: Ultimate Smallgame trap [Re: Wolfdog91] #6490510
03/14/19 08:36 AM
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Whatever seems to be working at the time!


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Re: Ultimate Smallgame trap [Re: joepennanti] #6490639
03/14/19 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by joepennanti
Originally Posted by Gulo
... Adjustable pan tensioner to eliminate by-catch of mice...
A former state wildlife biologist, Jack Whitman averaged as many as 29.4 red-backed voles per 100 trap-nights in the McGrath area. In other words, 100 traps left out overnight yielded 29 voles. Obviously, the more traps you can carry, the more mice you'll catch.

If meat production is your only goal, the plural of moose is mice.

Full article here: https://www.adn.com/alaska-life/we-alaskans/2017/05/07/a-meaty-issue-trading-moose-for-mice-hunting/
Who is this Jack Whitman guy?Is he credible? You say former state biologist, was he run off for studying vole trapping vs moose hunting?seems kinda sketchy. Any know accomplices in the Mcgrath area to watch out for?
grin

Re: Ultimate Smallgame trap [Re: Wolfdog91] #6490674
03/14/19 11:41 AM
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HA! Good on ya, trapr.

I strongly suspect that the "state wildlife biologist" in question is indeed a very sketchy character...


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