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Re: Shock Springs [Re: canebrake] #6491868
03/15/19 07:32 PM
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Canebrake I was tring to get a handle on reason the 650 was in conversation is all.


Kenneth schoening
Re: Shock Springs [Re: Pad Catch] #6491888
03/15/19 08:05 PM
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There's better ways to add more fur to your end of year pics than shock springs IMHO

Re: Shock Springs [Re: Yes sir] #6491989
03/15/19 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
There's better ways to add more fur to your end of year pics than shock springs IMHO


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Re: Shock Springs [Re: Pad Catch] #6492060
03/15/19 11:30 PM
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Whether or not a shock spring would really add much in regards to catches, I don't know. But I think there is a lot to be said for a person who takes good care of the critters they're trapping. IMO if adding shock springs to all of my traps prevents just one busted shoulder, they're a worthwhile addition.

Re: Shock Springs [Re: Tailhunter] #6492063
03/15/19 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Tailhunter
Originally Posted by Yes sir
There's better ways to add more fur to your end of year pics than shock springs IMHO


Why does this forum not have a like button?


Wondered that myself lol


Kenneth schoening
Re: Shock Springs [Re: Pad Catch] #6492099
03/16/19 12:31 AM
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I go the cheap route and add stop shock springs to all my yote traps I personally think it wears them down faster. a tired animal don't fight as hard.Its the same concept as the flex on a fishing pole. And I care about the over all health of any critter ive caught! If I choose to release it im certain it wont run out of sight then die from internal injurys


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Re: Shock Springs [Re: Pad Catch] #6492183
03/16/19 07:57 AM
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We need to pamper them poor things since they are killers.

Re: Shock Springs [Re: Pad Catch] #6492217
03/16/19 08:57 AM
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I run them and I like them, but they get plugged with mud and then you have a big chain link when it freezes. i'm probably in the minority, but I don't want to "kill em all" . If I catch one that is rubbed, or has been injured in a fight, I let them go. I run jakes, and they all have JC's shock spring. Oh, my chain set up is 3 ft long total, so normally about 18 to 24 inches above the ground when the earth anchor is buried .


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Re: Shock Springs [Re: Pad Catch] #6492244
03/16/19 09:27 AM
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Schock springs shine in extended check areas where the animal could be in trap for day or more and in live market trapping. If you feel the need do it

Re: Shock Springs [Re: Pad Catch] #6492262
03/16/19 09:55 AM
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im not to concerned with a yote but if I catch a red I like the option of knowing it can be released without it ending up killed by yotes.I firmly believe they can and do save shoulders


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Re: Shock Springs [Re: ADK95] #6492554
03/16/19 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ADK95
Whether or not a shock spring would really add much in regards to catches, I don't know. But I think there is a lot to be said for a person who takes good care of the critters they're trapping. IMO if adding shock springs to all of my traps prevents just one busted shoulder, they're a worthwhile addition.


I've trapped a lot of coyotes but have never observed one that broke it's shoulder from being trapped. I don't run long chains or long extended checks so I'm not saying it can't or won't ever happen. But I would like to see statistics (actual evidence) from necropsies or other trusted means that it's causing major damage to their shoulders. Sure there could be some bruising or soreness but nothing life altering to them. Unless I'm provided with good evidence from testing with various lengths of chain I see no need to outfit every trap of mine with one. They may have there place in certain situations that you deal with and if they make you feel better then go ahead and use them.

Re: Shock Springs [Re: silkyplainscoyot] #6492581
03/16/19 04:49 PM
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I have not viewed shock springs as much as a shoulder saver but more as an aid in retaining toe caught coyotes. I am also skeptical about the actual evidence that shoulders are torn up without shock springs


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Re: Shock Springs [Re: Pad Catch] #6492602
03/16/19 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pad Catch
I have not viewed shock springs as much as a shoulder saver but more as an aid in retaining toe caught coyotes. I am also skeptical about the actual evidence that shoulders are torn up without shock springs


If it were I, I would take the advice of others who mentioned putting the money into good equipment instead holding that occasional toe caught coyote. I haven't had a lot of toe catches but with my equipment the ones that I've had were still there the majority of the time. Sure I've lost few over the years due to toe catches but I'm not sure if a shock spring would of helped in those situations or not.

Re: Shock Springs [Re: Pad Catch] #6492619
03/16/19 05:41 PM
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I ll get toe catch every once in a while also.
But when I do ,,,, I look on it as my mistake, poor guiding ,not enough tension. Or a weak springs on a trap . Or other odd reason.
I think some of this can be contributed to the freeze thaw cycle between nite and day slowing trap down. Nothing is 100 % just some more to think about.


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Re: Shock Springs [Re: Pad Catch] #6492639
03/16/19 06:10 PM
03/16/19 06:10 PM
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I started with a smaller size trap with a large pan and had toe catches frequently but switched to a #3 size trap mostly and pretty much most all of the toe catches went away. Still use the smaller trap some if I run out of clean traps and when do I they still get a higher percentage of toe catches than I like. With that I think I may put a little more dirt covering over my traps than some which may be a contributing factor. Just me experience.

This is targeting coyotes.

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Re: Shock Springs [Re: Pad Catch] #6492655
03/16/19 06:37 PM
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We read on here all the time that a 4 coil trap dose not freeze as fast as a 2coil. If I add a shock spring (5coil) will that extra stored spring energy keep my sets even more unthawed? grin

My experience of one shock spring is, a coon ate it lol.
I figure my sample of one is about the same as none.

We can listen to those that use em,
listen to those with no experience,
or try the dang things,
crap there just traps.





Re: Shock Springs [Re: ADK95] #6492676
03/16/19 06:58 PM
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Somebody has to keep the guys in business that come up with things that are said to keep animals from hurting themselves in traps.

I still don’t understand the thought process that looks at a foot with utter horror if there is the slightest amount of “damage” but then runs a small piece of lead thru that animals skull with no remorse.

Re: Shock Springs [Re: Pad Catch] #6492712
03/16/19 07:40 PM
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Buy a dozen...put them on your traps

Run them a season or two...you'll answer your own question along with some first hand experience

If you don't like them.....take them off and sell them on Trap Shed

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Re: Shock Springs [Re: Pad Catch] #6492720
03/16/19 07:45 PM
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As stated, short chains have the same outcome as a shock spring.

Re: Shock Springs [Re: Pad Catch] #6492789
03/16/19 08:41 PM
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I just got off the phone with Ed Medvetz, the man is an encyclopedia of information on government trapping study’s. He claims the biggest advantage of the spring is to give the trap that extra split second to lockup . This is not an issue with a full pad catch but is with a toe catch and chains shorter than 20” . He also said they did a study in PA with Dp’s and had very few pull outs when adding a 32 lbs. spring for coon .

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