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When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ #6492201
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Truer words have seldom been spoken.



I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492237
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That's a very good answer to the shooting.


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Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492238
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On the news today not a word of a good guy with a gun ending the spree!


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Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492276
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Very good!


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Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492309
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I appreciate the person in the video for speaking openly and eloquently on the fundamental right to protect one's self. To take it one step further one of my argument has always been that the right to bear arms was also intended to allow the people to protect themselves from a cruel and oppressive government. One of the first things taken away, when the people are enslaved by tyrants, is the ability of the oppressed to protect themselves. The gun is called the great equalizer because it has helped the oppressed find footing. The "Founding Fathers" recognized this because an oppressive government is what they fled from. They wanted their new home to be better than where they came from.

Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492327
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This country has more guns than any other, more assault rifles, by far the most mass shootings.....remind me again how many of those mass shootings were foiled by an armed redneck hero with a gun?

Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: pass-thru] #6492335
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Originally Posted by pass-thru
This country has more guns than any other, more assault rifles, by far the most mass shootings.....remind me again how many of those mass shootings were foiled by an armed redneck hero with a gun?



Well, those 'hero's' follow the laws and the very large majority of shooting's that your referring too occur in gun free zones. So your analogy sucks.


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Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: pass-thru] #6492338
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Originally Posted by pass-thru
This country has more guns than any other, more assault rifles, by far the most mass shootings.....remind me again how many of those mass shootings were foiled by an armed redneck hero with a gun?



I'm sure more laws would take care of the problem.

Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: pass-thru] #6492339
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Originally Posted by pass-thru
This country has more guns than any other, more assault rifles, by far the most mass shootings.....remind me again how many of those mass shootings were foiled by an armed redneck hero with a gun?


One In Texas where the neighbor stopped a church shooting is one I can think of. Several others at fast food joints I also remember. Just because the liberal media plays them down, if they cover them at all doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: pass-thru] #6492342
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Originally Posted by pass-thru
This country has more guns than any other, more assault rifles, by far the most mass shootings.....remind me again how many of those mass shootings were foiled by an armed redneck hero with a gun?



There you go little friend.


https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2017/11/texas-church-shooting-armed-citizen/


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Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Badgerman50] #6492347
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Originally Posted by Badgerman50
Originally Posted by pass-thru
This country has more guns than any other, more assault rifles, by far the most mass shootings.....remind me again how many of those mass shootings were foiled by an armed redneck hero with a gun?



There you go little friend.


https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2017/11/texas-church-shooting-armed-citizen/


I wonder if the armed hero got any of the 26 dead by accident. Such a marvelous example of how the free world depends on rednecks with guns.

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What makes him a red-neck?

If I remember right, he served our country with honors.

Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492357
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I am not accusing him of being a redneck, rather most of those who espouse the theory that individuals carrying are the key to stopping mass shootings. In reality, armed police on a seen have done nothing to stop the shooting in several incidents, including Parkland.

Unfortunately, it now seems that armed security at churches and schools is going to be a requirement.

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maybe our military should be disarmed and police also Or maybe they should be the only ones armed How's it working in Vensuala Russia, African countries How about Chicago Maybe you live in a gated community where you feel safe and don't go out after dark or have an armed bodyguard Lucky You


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https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2017/11/texas-church-shooting-armed-citizen/
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I wonder if the armed hero got any of the 26 dead by accident. Such a marvelous example of how the free world depends on rednecks with guns.[/quote]


Like I said earlier, I'm sure this wouldn't happen if we had more laws. Obviously you would agree. The masses are too stupid to own guns, i guess.

Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492363
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Without “rednecks,” and others with guns, there would be no,”free world,” today. Pass-thru, ever heard of WWII ? I suppose that doesn’t meet your , “marvelous example” ?

Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: pass-thru] #6492373
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Originally Posted by pass-thru
I am not accusing him of being a redneck, rather most of those who espouse the theory that individuals carrying are the key to stopping mass shootings. In reality, armed police on a seen have done nothing to stop the shooting in several incidents, including Parkland.

Unfortunately, it now seems that armed security at churches and schools is going to be a requirement.


I have a ?. Do you view a person who carries a handgun daily as a threat or an unstable person?


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Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: pass-thru] #6492377
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Originally Posted by pass-thru
This country has more guns than any other, more assault rifles, by far the most mass shootings.....remind me again how many of those mass shootings were foiled by an armed redneck hero with a gun?



What is an "assault rifle"? Assault is merely a verb that you can put in front of anything. If you were slapped with a book, would that book now be an "assault book"?


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Originally Posted by pass-thru
I am not accusing him of being a redneck, rather most of those who espouse the theory that individuals carrying are the key to stopping mass shootings. In reality, armed police on a seen have done nothing to stop the shooting in several incidents, including Parkland.

Unfortunately, it now seems that armed security at churches and schools is going to be a requirement.


so should we group you in with the anti gun crowd?i'd rather have a armed redneck at the next booth than a anti gun liberal hiding under that same booth when the crap hits the fan.









Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Marty] #6492381
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Originally Posted by Marty
Originally Posted by pass-thru
I am not accusing him of being a redneck, rather most of those who espouse the theory that individuals carrying are the key to stopping mass shootings. In reality, armed police on a seen have done nothing to stop the shooting in several incidents, including Parkland.

Unfortunately, it now seems that armed security at churches and schools is going to be a requirement.


I have a ?. Do you view a person who carries a handgun daily as a threat or an unstable person?


No it does not. However, there are many poorly trained and unstable people who carry. And they make the smalltown headlines across the country every day.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/montana-shootings-leave-1-dead-trooper-and-2-others-wounded

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