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Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492385
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There are also many poorly trained and unstable drivers. Drunken killers behind the wheel also make smalltown headlines across the country. Obviously we need to ban cars.

Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: pass-thru] #6492387
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Originally Posted by pass-thru
This country has more guns than any other, more assault rifles, by far the most mass shootings.....remind me again how many of those mass shootings were foiled by an armed redneck hero with a gun?


Go on you tube and see how many good guys with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun.

Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492388
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...w-zealand-mosque-shootings-idUSKCN1QW2SK

It is interesting to me that the "world abroad is alarmed at the targeting of Muslims". In those countrys where Islam is the only religion allowed, Christians were irradicated in just this same fashion.

Lets talk about this for a while.

The biggest difference between Christains and Muslims, is that when we get mowed down, we turn the other cheek.

Thank God for rednecks with guns.


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492391
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What is a mosque doing in a place called Christchurch, anyways ?


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: trapper les] #6492411
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Originally Posted by trapper les
What is a mosque doing in a place called Christchurch, anyways ?



My thoughts also..

Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: pass-thru] #6492501
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Originally Posted by pass-thru
This country has more guns than any other, more assault rifles, by far the most mass shootings.....remind me again how many of those mass shootings were foiled by an armed redneck hero with a gun?


Gee, just when I didn't think you could possibly be more ignorant, both in ideology and to the people on this forum, you impress me. Also, how about learning the definition of the types of firearms. At least then, you may not sound quite as stupid. I do however, doubt it.


I'll even help you out, have an adult read and explain this to you:

"assault rifle" noun :
Definition of assault rifle::
: any of various intermediate-range, magazine-fed military rifles (such as the AK-47) that can be set for automatic or semiautomatic fire

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Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492504
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Desertambtion, let's get this right. It's not [quote "The Founding Fathers recognized this because an oppressive government is what they fled from. They wanted their new home to be better than where they came from.][/quote]

It's " The Founding Fathers recognized this because an oppressive government is what they REBELLED AGAINST, because they wanted their home to be a better place without oppression. They understood that it was because they had arms that rebellion was possible. So did the Brits at the time and their attempts to confiscate weapons is what led to the battle at Concord and Lexington and the start of the rebellion.

Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492511
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Instead of 26, how many more would have been killed if the "redneck with a gun" wouldn't have shown up?


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Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492513
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Passthru, why have you not been voted into office as a Democrat yet?


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Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492531
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Real candour is that nobody should be responsible for your self-defence but YOU. If you give up that right you have lost your Liberty & Freedom. Should you be happy that others such as police or soldiers are willing to rush to your defence? Yes !! but that doesn't mean you should be exonerated from filling a body bag with your body because you were forced to be unprepared.


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Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: trapper les] #6492533
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Originally Posted by trapper les
What is a mosque doing in a place called Christchurch, anyways ?



probably gonna change the name


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Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492534
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You people are so lucky to be able to open or conceal carry, as opposed to here in Canada where they may be going to try and ban handguns completely. Having lived with our Canadian system, I found it hard to comprehend why there was so much outcry in the U.S. about limiting magazine capacities, the need for bumpstocks and etc. I now have a different outlook. At least you have the NRA.I hope for your sake they will become more active,aggressive in opposing ALL gun restrictions on your behalf. It would appear from reading these threads they are your last chance as the libs are slowly changing your gun rights. It does no good to say "over my dead body"etc,because while the majority would protest verbally, like the man in California,it would be to no avail. I bet if you looked in a mirror and honestly asked and answered yourself " would I really shoot a policeman who came with a legal order to take my guns" the answer would be no. Most have to much at stake in the future, not to mention the welfare of our families. In Canada we have no such strong groups protecting our rights. Our majority gov't could pass a law and it's all over,to my knowledge

Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492552
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Maybe the reason why Pass Thru thinks the way he does because he is only hearing what the liberals want him to hear. You will NEVER hear how may violent crimes are prevented by people with weapons. I can and will take care of myself and my family. Any help from LE and armed citizen will be greatly appreciated. JMO


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Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: trapper les] #6492555
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Originally Posted by trapper les
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...w-zealand-mosque-shootings-idUSKCN1QW2SK

It is interesting to me that the "world abroad is alarmed at the targeting of Muslims". In those countrys where Islam is the only religion allowed, Christians were irradicated in just this same fashion.

Lets talk about this for a while.

The biggest difference between Christains and Muslims, is that when we get mowed down, we turn the other cheek.

Thank God for rednecks with guns.

Easy answer. The world don't want Christians because Christians want conform to the world.

Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492556
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I like the flame throwers in the vehicles rocker panels in SA.Great for self defense against carjackers.


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Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492564
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You are correct EdP. The point I was trying to make is that much of the conversation revolves around individuals defending against each other. One of the primary purposes of our right to bear arms is so that should the government become cruel and oppressive that people may rise up to defend against the government itself. Just to be clear I am not in any way implying that there should be any sort of rebellion, I am just saying that the right to bear arms helps keep our own government in check as well.

Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492580
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Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6492694
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Guns in the hands of citizens is not what keeps the "government" in check.
The thoughts in the minds of politicians that the citizens are armed and will not surrender them is what keeps them in check.
Big difference.

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Pass-thru=idiot... what moron

Re: When Self Defense Is ‘Not a Valid Reason’ [Re: Finster] #6494115
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Give up your right to be the first to defend yourself in an assault & you have already given up your right to personal Liberty & Freedom
As a Canadian in Nova Scotia, I can not even carry a handgun while trapping hunting or fishing even though we do have the end of human life predators here in Nova Scotia.
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