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Queen Tax in Canada? #6495153
03/19/19 07:48 AM
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Every older man I know tells me the Queen takes her cut and has many stories why they couldn't just "take their skins to Canada." Does anyone know the facts?

(yes I understand this site (snopes) is generally suspect among smart people....but just wondering)

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fur-the-queen/




Re: Queen Tax in Canada? [Re: nyhuntfish] #6495222
03/19/19 08:59 AM
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I pay to take them out of Ontario....and when I sell them at auction. This is to the province though and not the federal government...

https://furmanagers.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/RoyaltyRates2018-19_EnglishNotice-09-28-2018.pdf

Re: Queen Tax in Canada? [Re: nyhuntfish] #6495310
03/19/19 10:32 AM
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Saskfly what you have is plain and simple a FORD TAX, not a Queen tax. Manitoba did away with Royalities because it was not going back to the producers. We were a flat rate and 10 times less than Ontario.
( for those in the south...Ford is the Head Cheese of Ontario Government)

Re: Queen Tax in Canada? [Re: nyhuntfish] #6495314
03/19/19 10:42 AM
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Ford did not create the tax or any even close to the taxes & rip-offs of the previous Wynne Liberal government so it is not a truth to call it a FORD tax. He is also busy now trying to block the Carbon Tax which Wynne was guilty of trying to pass and which helped in her defeat.


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Re: Queen Tax in Canada? [Re: nyhuntfish] #6495318
03/19/19 10:47 AM
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I remember when British Columbia had a royalty on raw fur, I think it was called a "Crown Royalty". I remember looking at the schedule probably back in the early 70's, the only item I remember was the tax on muskrat was 10 cents a skin.
I'm sure some B.C. guys on here can correct me if I'm miss-remembering something.


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Re: Queen Tax in Canada? [Re: nyhuntfish] #6495322
03/19/19 10:55 AM
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The Queen does not get the royalty money. The provinces do in most cases as a crown land tax whether it is fur or timber, gas, or oil. https://assets.kpmg/content/dam/kpmg/ca/pdf/2018/05/oil-gas-guide.pdf


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Re: Queen Tax in Canada? [Re: nyhuntfish] #6495349
03/19/19 11:41 AM
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Royalties on fur in Ontario go into the general purpose account(along with fines related to wildlife,licences etc) which helps pay for wildlife programs.Much of it goes back to the licencing and education of trappers in Ontario administered by our provincial trapping organization,the largest in North America,with around 7000 members.The contract to administer the fur program for the province is separate from the membership fund.

Re: Queen Tax in Canada? [Re: nyhuntfish] #6495356
03/19/19 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by nyhuntfish
Every older man I know tells me the Queen takes her cut and has many stories why they couldn't just "take their skins to Canada." Does anyone know the facts?

(yes I understand this site (snopes) is generally suspect among smart people....but just wondering)

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fur-the-queen/




I started to ship fur to the Ontario Trapper's Association Auction in North Bay in 1977.

As a United States Citizen, I was exempt from ANY royalty tax that Canadians had to pay.

To My Knowledge, I have never payed a direct royalty to ship and sell fur with the OTA, FHA, or NAFA.

On the other hand, sales commissions are another story.

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Re: Queen Tax in Canada? [Re: waggler] #6495360
03/19/19 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by waggler
I remember when British Columbia had a royalty on raw fur, I think it was called a "Crown Royalty". I remember looking at the schedule probably back in the early 70's, the only item I remember was the tax on muskrat was 10 cents a skin.
I'm sure some B.C. guys on here can correct me if I'm miss-remembering something.


That Crown Royalty comes in a cute little purple sack, does it not?

Pete

Re: Queen Tax in Canada? [Re: nyhuntfish] #6495374
03/19/19 12:02 PM
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It does and I have drank a bit of that crown royal stuff In my youth. LOl


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Re: Queen Tax in Canada? [Re: Pete in Frbks] #6495490
03/19/19 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete in Frbks
Originally Posted by waggler
I remember when British Columbia had a royalty on raw fur, I think it was called a "Crown Royalty". I remember looking at the schedule probably back in the early 70's, the only item I remember was the tax on muskrat was 10 cents a skin.
I'm sure some B.C. guys on here can correct me if I'm miss-remembering something.


That Crown Royalty comes in a cute little purple sack, does it not?

Pete

Pete you are a little tippsy because you added a "it" in Royality......and yes that little purple sac still comes along. The Gold sacs come with Crown Royal Northern Harvest which is far superior so you have to add one to your collection.
It's a tradition if your walleye fishing on Lake Winnipeg and you catch a 28 Greenback incher an you can see the steam plume from the distillery in Gimili that you Christian it with a swig of CC. Much like kissing the cod in New Foundland ceremony.

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