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Re: Helping out the deer. [Re: gibb] #6495411
03/19/19 12:46 PM
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I wouldn't feed deer corn for reasons already mentioned. I know a place that some people were feeding deer corn during the winter. They created a false deer yard and had dead deer in numbers around their house. They caused the deaths during mild winters. they had deer fighting over very little corn. they put out 4 coffee cans of corn per day for 27 deer to fight over. No browse was left in the area. Spring broke and 11 deer were dead. They started feeding early fall and I don't think the deer's metabolism ever changed to be able to eat woody products. Plus they also made trails with snowmobiles and the coyotes would curl up and sleep be side them and use them to kill deer. I believe that I read deer need 5 lbs. of food each per day and they didn't put out corn for three deer per day survive. Some of the deer carcuses were curled up like they were sleeping.


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Re: Helping out the deer. [Re: Law Dog] #6495466
03/19/19 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Blue tongue is common when the deer gather in the areas with water in the dry years concentrating their numbers and increasing contacts and spreading the problem so social interaction can be harmful in some cases!

Blue Tongue and EHD are caused and spread by midge bites. It doesn't have anything to do with social interaction, it's just the deer and midges being in contact with each other more often.

Re: Helping out the deer. [Re: gibb] #6495469
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X2 vermonster and it keeps them there instead of moving to browse areas every area is different I realize When I cut timber in the 70s and early 80s we had heavy snow and when you started a saw it didn't take long to see deer as winter progressed they actually got in the way As far as cedar I was under the assumption the resin went back to the tree in winter would this affect the toxicity of the browse?


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Re: Helping out the deer. [Re: gibb] #6495507
03/19/19 02:43 PM
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Y’all are feeding them and we are discussing taking about 50-60 doe’s off the property next year! Deer and trapping don’t mix!!!

Re: Helping out the deer. [Re: jbyrd63] #6495591
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Originally Posted by snowy
^ No >>> Nothing has ever shown that feeding deer causes CWD. I was told that be a warden also.
What causes chronic wasting disease?

Chronic wasting disease is caused by a misfolded protein called a prion. All mammals produce normal prions that are used by cells, then degraded and eliminated, or recycled, within the body. When disease-associated prions contact normal prions, they cause them to refold into their own abnormal shape. These disease-associated prions are not readily broken down and tend to accumulate in--and damage--lymphatic and neural tissues, including the brain.

The DFW here says feeding doesn't cause it but may contribute to the spread. Sick animals inter act with healthy ones.


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Re: Helping out the deer. [Re: M.Magis] #6495599
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Originally Posted by M.Magis
Originally Posted by Law Dog
Blue tongue is common when the deer gather in the areas with water in the dry years concentrating their numbers and increasing contacts and spreading the problem so social interaction can be harmful in some cases!

Blue Tongue and EHD are caused and spread by midge bites. It doesn't have anything to do with social interaction, it's just the deer and midges being in contact with each other more often.


Being together more often is not social interaction then?


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Re: Helping out the deer. [Re: gibb] #6495647
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snowy There was just a deer that tested positive for CWD close to you, It died in a yard where they were being fed. When I say yard I mean lawn type yard. I would bet that other deer have picked up CWD coming in to feed at the site. From what I was told CWD does not go away. Once it is in a area it is there for good.


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Re: Helping out the deer. [Re: Kre] #6495650
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Originally Posted by Kre
I wonder who fed the deer 200 years ago. Surely they'd be extinct without our help.

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Re: Helping out the deer. [Re: gibb] #6495653
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I nice 3-10 year old clear cut would feed plenty of deer and keep good numbers. Logging is important. Something that the tree huggers don't understand. Creates deer level browse this time of year.

Re: Helping out the deer. [Re: Law Dog] #6495685
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Originally Posted by Law Dog

Being together more often is not social interaction then?

I’m not sure you understood what I said. Again, it doesn’t have anything to do with the deer being together. The deer are forced to use a handful of water sources, which the midges also use. The midges bites the deer and the deer get EHD. It does not and can not spread from animal to animal.

Re: Helping out the deer. [Re: gibb] #6495692
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Great job helping out the deer, I know the deer really needed the supplemental
Feeding that the DNR provided this year in the UP.

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