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Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: wr otis] #6502720
03/27/19 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wr otis
Danny he has made attempts at everything you mentioned, the swamp is holding him down.

He has a fantastic chance in 2020, the other side has tied this investigation anchor around their necks.


X2

No politician in recent times took on so many fights for us and we can't expect he will win all of them but he is trying to carry out his promises as he can.

Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: Blaine County] #6502722
03/27/19 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by Lugnut
It’s just the beginning of what Blaine?


I have zero confidence in Trump or the Senate to advance the cause. I know, I know, Trump appointed and the Senate confirmed two decent Supreme Court Justices. However, after two years we haven't seen much else except, arguably, an erosion of our rights with the bump stock ban. And, there is a decent chance Trump loses in 2020 and that's when it's going to get even worse on the 2A front. Elizabeth Cortez O'Rourke will do whatever possible to destroy the 2A.

I suggest everyone buy every gun they want to own and/or pass down to their children and grandchildren before November 2020. I also suggest you stock up on ammo and reloading equipment and supplies.

I'm going to go work on my tinfoil hat now.




Well, at least we now have a date for the next ammo shortage to begin.

Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: Lugnut] #6502727
03/27/19 04:04 PM
03/27/19 04:04 PM
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Nothing happened to as Blaine County said " advance the cause" when the reps had the house , senate and Trump in the driving seat. Now the house is left to the loony toons and there are to many turn coats in the so called republican senate. Not advancing on the hearing protection act and the constitutional carry when they had the chance is a big let down together with the bumpstock ruling, that could cost him the 2020 election. Not that anyone will change to vote for the loony toons, but it may just stop enough people from going to vote at all. I hope not but it don't look to rosy IMHO.
Just my 2 cents and probably not even worth that much.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: Lugnut] #6502733
03/27/19 04:12 PM
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I will vote just not for the duck


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: danny clifton] #6503010
03/27/19 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I will vote just not for the duck


If Trump is on the ballot then you will be helping socialism.


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Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: Marty] #6503035
03/27/19 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty
Originally Posted by danny clifton
I will vote just not for the duck


If Trump is on the ballot then you will be helping socialism.


Everybody has the right to vote for whomever they wish. If a person wants to vote for a third-party candidate who promises them all the things they want to hear but who they have no idea whether or not will make good on those promises, that is their right.

If they want to vote for a third-party candidate knowing full well that candidate has zero chance of winning a presidential election, that is their right.

If a person wants to vote against the best president this country has seen in decades for promises they consider unkept or for some perceived injustices done to themselves, that is their right.

Everybody in this country has the right to vote as ignorantly or as intelligently as they see fit. Unfortunately, for us as a country, too many vote the former not the latter.


Eh...wot?

Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: Lugnut] #6503045
03/27/19 09:48 PM
03/27/19 09:48 PM

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If the economy keeps rolling Trump wins in a landslide. What's the saying, "Money talks,BS walks!"

Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: wr otis] #6503064
03/27/19 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by wr otis
Danny he has made attempts at everything you mentioned, the swamp is holding him down.

He has a fantastic chance in 2020, the other side has tied this investigation anchor around their necks.



Trump is very much a creature of the swamp. He swam in it long before he decided to run. He never made any attempts at anything legislatively. Almost all the campaigning for any of his ideas legislatively has been after the votes. He wasnt making the case to the people day in day out(twitter doesnt count as most people dont have it and those that do most dont look at it), marching legislators upto the WH for browbeating sessions. He had to be dragged back into the wall funding debacle that caused the shutdown, only to end it so he can do State of the Union from Capitol Hill.


Trump only survives 2020 if the economy doesnt slip...at all. He doesnt have the votes to lose in the swing states that flipped the election. WI, MI and PA will not be ignored again.

Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: ] #6503068
03/27/19 10:05 PM
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Why is there an ATF in the first place?
I enjoy all 3 from time to time and I do not need
some feller from Washington telling me all about it.
By trial and error I have a handle on it.

Zim

Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: Lugnut] #6503267
03/28/19 04:32 AM
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I voted for Hillary to be charged for playing with military secrets on her own server and held to account for telling the assault team to stand down in Benghazi.

I voted to have the 2nd supported

I voted to have Obamacare tossed out the window

I voted for less regulation in the trucking industry

I voted to have judges appointed that were willing to support our constitution. ( I think I got that. time will tell)

The republican party seems to be on the same path as the democrats. Republicans are trying to get elected by saying vote against socialism. So point out which republican is working to eliminate the socialism we already have.

Trump keeps babbling about illegal immigration but the illegals still get welfare, public school, and no one is prosecuting their employers.

I have had a bellyful of politicians who get elected by pointing out problems but don't ever really do anything. When a politician really does try to make a difference the media roasts them and tries to marginalize their views.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: Scuba1] #6503299
03/28/19 07:15 AM
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What do you think you shave gotten with killary as pres? Or ANY other dem president? Every dem up there is applauding NZ and dying to do the same here. They make no doubts that 2A will only ONLY be preserved with r votes - nothing else. Libertarian would be nice but not possible as they can't get enough people to chance their candidate just helping get Ds elected.

Trump is without doubt the smartest best president this country has seen in ages, he is fighting DC and doing well. While I hate the bump stock ban is that the hill you want to die on? It is one small battle in a larger picture.

Y'all remind me of my firemen, think I should go to town hall and raise Cain over every little perceived infraction no matter how minor, try to tell them that amounts to throwing the baby out with the bath water.

J


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Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: Lugnut] #6503304
03/28/19 07:27 AM
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What does saying Trump’s word is no good have to do with Hillary? I wonder why your fine with her not being held to account. If you voted for Trump you must have at least been ok with it.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: danny clifton] #6503341
03/28/19 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I voted for Hillary to be charged for playing with military secrets on her own server and held to account for telling the assault team to stand down in Benghazi.

I voted to have the 2nd supported

I voted to have Obamacare tossed out the window

I voted for less regulation in the trucking industry

I voted to have judges appointed that were willing to support our constitution. ( I think I got that. time will tell)

The republican party seems to be on the same path as the democrats. Republicans are trying to get elected by saying vote against socialism. So point out which republican is working to eliminate the socialism we already have.

Trump keeps babbling about illegal immigration but the illegals still get welfare, public school, and no one is prosecuting their employers.

I have had a bellyful of politicians who get elected by pointing out problems but don't ever really do anything. When a politician really does try to make a difference the media roasts them and tries to marginalize their views.




I don't think you realize the experienced political games he is up against to get all that you want. We all want those things but without Trump you would not get anything as our country was being taken from us. He at least is giving them a fight on our behalf.

Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: Lugnut] #6503459
03/28/19 10:48 AM
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What fight are you talking about? We got more gun control because he made a phone call


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: danny clifton] #6503587
03/28/19 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
What fight are you talking about? We got more gun control because he made a phone call



Truth is Danny there is way more important things going on in our country that he is fighting up against. As much as I don't like any infringement on our 2nd the bump stock is small potato compared to other issues.

You would be fighting for your whole gun and freedom if Hillary and Nancy would of got together. Like it or not Trump is our future.

Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: Lugnut] #6503595
03/28/19 02:15 PM
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It is not at all unusual for SCOTUS to deny the request. Even though I don't trust Roberts, I think all he is doing is allowing this to play out in the lower courts first.


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Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: Lugnut] #6503596
03/28/19 02:16 PM
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SCOTUS just refused a delay, second one this week.

LINK


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: racerboy108] #6503611
03/28/19 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by racerboy108
Originally Posted by danny clifton
What fight are you talking about? We got more gun control because he made a phone call



Truth is Danny there is way more important things going on in our country that he is fighting up against. As much as I don't like any infringement on our 2nd the bump stock is small potato compared to other issues.

You would be fighting for your whole gun and freedom if Hillary and Nancy would of got together. Like it or not Trump is our future.


There are a lot if important things going on in this country getting the cricket response from Trump and related media. Only fight Trump cares about is China and the media. If the party was smart a lot of things could of been passed in the confusion but there isn't any leadership from the WH or the party.

Re: Bump Stock Stay [Re: Lugnut] #6503646
03/28/19 03:28 PM
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I believe a phone call to the attorney general and Hillary would have been on trial for misappropriation of classified documents. It was supposed to happen but didn't. Several bills had been written to end Obama care during BO's tenure but somehow that never happened either. President appoints the director of health and human services. One phone call and no more welfare for illegals. Another phone call and their employers are targeted for criminal action. The laws are already there.

That stuff didn't get done cause Donald doesn't want it to get done. Just like the bump stock thing. Really I couldn't care less about them. Completely useless toy. However one call to the atf and honest people are now outlaws. His word is no good. You can claim he is to busy or whatever else you want to dream up but it just aint so. I got what I wanted most. 2 judges that I think I can live with. Time will tell if that's true or not. Since he is uninterested in following through on making NATO pay for our troops in Europe and Japan I am no longer interested in voting for him.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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A.T.F. Alcohol,Tobacco and Firearms.Sounds like a one-stop shopping place to me. smile


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