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‘Assault Weapons’ and Magazine Bans #6507985
04/02/19 06:57 AM
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Gee, no kidding!...………. DAH!

Study: ‘Assault Weapons’ and Magazine Bans Do Not Lower Homicide Rates



A study on state-level gun control laws in the U.S. shows that bans on “high-capacity” magazines and “assault weapons” do not lower homicide rates.
The study was headed by Boston University School of Public Health’s Michael Siegel and another listed study author was Harvard gun control advocate David Hemenway.
The study, The Impact of State Firearm Laws on Homicide and Suicide Deaths in the USA, 1991–2016: a Panel Study, isolated four states to study ten different types of gun control to see if certain gun controls were successful in reducing homicide and/or suicide rates. Via their research, they discovered that “high-capacity” magazine and “assault weapons” bans do not lower homicide rates.
In an interview with Futurity.org, lead study author Michael Spiegel elaborated: “Although I completely understand the desire to ban assault weapons, I just don’t see empirical evidence that such bans have any substantial impact on homicide rates. These bans are most often based on characteristics of guns that are not directly tied to their lethality.”
He observed, “Laws regulating the sale of assault weapons are unlikely to have a large impact on homicide rates, because these weapons are used in only a very small proportion of homicides. The vast majority of firearm homicides in the United States are committed with handguns.”
The study Spiegel oversaw also shows researchers discovered “changes in household gun ownership were not found to be significantly associated with homicide or suicide rates.” This runs 180 degrees counter to the Left’s incessant claims that a gun in the house puts the homeowner at greater risk.

Source: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...gazine-bans-do-not-lower-homicide-rates/


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Re: ‘Assault Weapons’ and Magazine Bans [Re: Finster] #6507987
04/02/19 07:00 AM
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calling the atf and tell them to reinterpret the law regarding bump stocks will lower crime though. maga


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: ‘Assault Weapons’ and Magazine Bans [Re: Finster] #6508047
04/02/19 08:31 AM
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Re: ‘Assault Weapons’ and Magazine Bans [Re: Finster] #6508056
04/02/19 08:42 AM
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Thank you Boston university! The problem they don't want to sort out is being neighborly. Helping others get through their troubles. I know this is a very personal issue. We on the outside can never fully understand. But the license some get from it is sickening. Its a lack of imagination. Then you have those that want power and see these moments as means to get it. Circles in circles


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Re: ‘Assault Weapons’ and Magazine Bans [Re: Finster] #6508066
04/02/19 08:52 AM
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Progressives aren't in a reasonable state of mind and trying to reason with one isn't going to do much good. We defeat them or they defeat us, there's no common ground.

Re: ‘Assault Weapons’ and Magazine Bans [Re: Finster] #6508068
04/02/19 08:57 AM
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^^^^^ Thats about the way it is set to be now


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Re: ‘Assault Weapons’ and Magazine Bans [Re: Posco] #6508072
04/02/19 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Posco
Progressives aren't in a reasonable state of mind and trying to reason with one isn't going to do much good. We defeat them or they defeat us, there's no common ground.


^ Very True! ^


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Re: ‘Assault Weapons’ and Magazine Bans [Re: Finster] #6508074
04/02/19 09:02 AM
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The left will twist or disregard this study as they want guns for their own reasons. They only use the reason that they are dangerous to get their agenda.

To our benefit while the left is pushing so hard they are putting millions more guns in the homes as people are buying.

Re: ‘Assault Weapons’ and Magazine Bans [Re: Finster] #6508171
04/02/19 11:26 AM
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The leftist don't care about your guns !!! They just want to control the gun owners and the only way is to get rid of your guns however they can. It's all a power grab.
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Re: ‘Assault Weapons’ and Magazine Bans [Re: Finster] #6508342
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The issue with discussions of gun crime is that no one starts out with the truth, which is that the sample size is too small to be relevant. Less than 0.005% of the total population of the US is murdered with a gun each year. Violent crime isn't an issue for 99.9% of us. If you're a decent person and associate with decent people, no one tries to kill you. That's it. We've won. The question is no longer "What can we do about violent crime?", the question is "Why am I being told by mass media and politicians that there's a giant problem, when there isn't?"

To put it another way, if there was only one murder per year in the US, and you banned guns and then there were no more murders, you can't say that gun bans stopped murders, the sample size is to small. The one murderer left in the US could have tripped and hit his head and died and that's why murders stopped, not because of a gun ban. So with gunshot related homicides so low, there's no valid way to measure changes to it, because the entire sample size is statistically irrelevant.

Re: ‘Assault Weapons’ and Magazine Bans [Re: Finster] #6508569
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I hate to point out the obvious. As a retired Infantryman the weapons that they are talking about ARE NOT ASSAULT WEAPONS. Unless they are saying that any weapon used to assault someone is an assault weapon. In which case a pan of hot grease or a fork could be classified as an assault weapon. There is where the fear mongers go every time they want to scare folks and try to prove their point. The semi automatic weapons they are always afraid of are in reality not really an issue. Put a BB gun in the wrong hands it's just as dangerous. As is a car or a piece of cord or a TV set. I say clean up your own mess instead of making up one for someone else. Stop late term abortion, stop giving taxpayer money to planned parenthood and secure our borders. JMO


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Re: ‘Assault Weapons’ and Magazine Bans [Re: Finster] #6508728
04/02/19 10:56 PM
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Unfortunately, facts really don't matter. As crazy as it seems to me, I have finally accepted that it's impossible to win an emotional argument with facts and I have given up trying to convince anyone of anything. Emotions always win over logic and the only tool I have is logic.


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Re: ‘Assault Weapons’ and Magazine Bans [Re: Finster] #6508742
04/02/19 11:14 PM
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Best you can do is to decide what actions you will take when/if these things happen nationwide and plan accordingly.


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