Re: How to get a bunch of tickets.... A tutorial
[Re: TDHP]
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04/04/19 08:32 AM
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When you allow motorists or the individuals you are dealing with from calls from service dictate how things are going to go, you've already lost control. If you have pc to implement a ch and section to the offense, you do it and use discretion when possible. Debates should take place at the courts, not roadside. jmo and how I do things. As a motorist, agreed.
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Re: How to get a bunch of tickets.... A tutorial
[Re: TDHP]
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04/04/19 08:33 AM
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When you allow motorists or the individuals you are dealing with from calls from service dictate how things are going to go, you've already lost control. If you have pc to implement a ch and section to the offense, you do it and use discretion when possible. Debates should take place at the courts, not roadside. jmo and how I do things. Agreed but that could also open up the municipality to litigation. Training/education before the fact would be best.
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Re: How to get a bunch of tickets.... A tutorial
[Re: Finster]
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04/04/19 08:44 AM
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Again, you know the guy is from Maryland?
Is a Delaware resident an employer of a Maryland city cop?
The escalation was created because the guy failed to hand over his license and registration, something he agreed to when he obtained them.
I get it. Dopers, child support dodgers and such don't want anybody to know who they are, they want the privilege of driving without the consequences. Not the case.
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Re: How to get a bunch of tickets.... A tutorial
[Re: Pike River]
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04/04/19 08:49 AM
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When you allow motorists or the individuals you are dealing with from calls from service dictate how things are going to go, you've already lost control. If you have pc to implement a ch and section to the offense, you do it and use discretion when possible. Debates should take place at the courts, not roadside. jmo and how I do things. Agreed but that could also open up the municipality to litigation. Training/education before the fact would be best. If an officer observes you in violation on a public way and conducts a mv stop and requests your documents and you fail to submit them. You can get cute and state all kinds of laws and create a scene, all that does is add more charges during booking. Failure to submit is an arrestable offence. As stated from another poster you've already agreed to that process by obtaining a DL, maybe it's different where you are. Good training would prevent you from debating tickets roadside if you are operating in your GL's.
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Re: How to get a bunch of tickets.... A tutorial
[Re: Diggerman]
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04/04/19 01:07 PM
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So what would you do if you noticed an immigration offence? You all do on a daily basis. Are you this aggressive on all laws? Or do you get to pick and choose which laws you will push to the extreme? The cops in one of our local towns drives by migrant farm workers all day long, no questioning, no IDing. So you had better not question me for dropping off or picking anyone up at the curb. He didn't drop her off at the curb. He was blocking the street.
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Re: How to get a bunch of tickets.... A tutorial
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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04/04/19 01:47 PM
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Your refusal to acknowledge the traffic violation is evidence further explanation would be lost. lol, can't win.
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Re: How to get a bunch of tickets.... A tutorial
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04/04/19 02:36 PM
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Your refusal to acknowledge the traffic violation is evidence further explanation would be lost. lol, can't win. Wait until somebody tells him there's a - on his keyboard so he can stop using the = symbol incorrectly.
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Re: How to get a bunch of tickets.... A tutorial
[Re: Finster]
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04/04/19 04:03 PM
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When you get and accept a drivers license, you agree that you will abide by the traffic regulations and can be pulled over and cited for failure to comply to these laws. You also must show the proof of owning a license upon demand of a law enforcement agent who is enforcing a law that, under his witness,you have disobeyed. If you have or haven't is not to be decided at that point. That is what the courts are for. It's a pretty simple concept. Driving is not a right, it is a privilege and it is not something you must do. There are options. If you do not want to abide by the vehicle code then don't drive. Simple as that.
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Re: How to get a bunch of tickets.... A tutorial
[Re: Diggerman]
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04/04/19 06:06 PM
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Are you guys advocating for giving up our rights or taking away rights of others?. I wasn't there and I don't care really what happened. Giving a guy a badge a big black belt does not give him the right to be little hitler. Ifn you guys want to give up your freedom to some overzealous prick, fine. If you think it is just fine to haul someone to jail cause you couldnt handle the stop and you think it is just fine to stop a man and ask him for his papers, maybe you are in the wrong country at the wrong time. First of all the cop wasn't a prick for making the traffic stop, informing the driver who he was, who he worked for and that he was being videoed. Are you that dense that you can't grasp that EVERYBODY that obtains a DL agrees to the terms required to have one.
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Re: How to get a bunch of tickets.... A tutorial
[Re: Diggerman]
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04/04/19 06:13 PM
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Are you guys advocating for giving up our rights or taking away rights of others?. I wasn't there and I don't care really what happened. Giving a guy a badge a big black belt does not give him the right to be little hitler. Ifn you guys want to give up your freedom to some overzealous prick, fine. If you think it is just fine to haul someone to jail cause you couldnt handle the stop and you think it is just fine to stop a man and ask him for his papers, maybe you are in the wrong country at the wrong time. I see you completely miss the point and any reason on the matter. Hitler?? Really?? Are you triggered?? Listen to what people are saying here and think about it a little. The guy was asked over 60 times to produce his license and registration after a lawful stop and was given a completely lawful order. The guy chose not to. He made the choice, not the cop. Now, you may not like the cops tone. To be honest neither did I. However, that does not really have anything to do with it now does it.
I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
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Re: How to get a bunch of tickets.... A tutorial
[Re: Finster]
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04/04/19 06:14 PM
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From what I saw in that video,cop should have first asked the guy why he was stopped in the road.How did he know the guy wasn't having a health issue?Cop was a jerk.
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Re: How to get a bunch of tickets.... A tutorial
[Re: Finster]
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04/04/19 06:27 PM
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I knew the guy was trouble when I saw the bow tie.
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Re: How to get a bunch of tickets.... A tutorial
[Re: Finster]
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04/04/19 06:38 PM
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Cop had an attitude from the get go.Whole fiasco could have been avoided.
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Re: How to get a bunch of tickets.... A tutorial
[Re: Finster]
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04/04/19 06:40 PM
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The cop was a little bit of a Richard, the way he got huffy so quickly, but the other guy was a complete moron, lol.
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