Sarcasm font..........seems the illegals get away with murder..and don't have any problems driving around.

Yes plenty, most get work permits. Good friend got his 4th? 5th? Can’t keep track. But on his last one, no work permit and lost his license for 2 years and 30 days jail time. Another pal done 2 long stints in prison for 8 or so dui’s, maybe more again hard to keep track. Judge gets some discretion

Pretty much gauranteed some jail time and loss of license for 5 years for a 3rd in Michigan. Of course there is always the acception. Getting more consistent these days with all the new groups fighting against it. Back in the old days you would get a ride home, now you most likely get a ride to jail.

County just wants money. If it were up to me BAC would go back to .1 for a criminal offense. A guy ought to be able to legally drink 2-3 beers on his way home from work. If over that it should be jail time. No fines, no diversions, no suspended sentence, jail. 6 months ought to be about right for the first offense. Would hurt the wealthy as well as the poor. Any subsequent convictions double the previous sentence. No need for anybody to make money installing a blow in it device, or the county to pull a license and get more fines since nobody quits driving. Jail. People in jail are not driving. No work release, go to jail do not pass go.

3 in ten yrs in oregon results in a class c felony. Jail time and thousands in fines

Knew a guy that had 14 in the seventies, two in the same day, the last one he killed someone spent time in prison and sobered up. Another guy here had about 10 though the nineties never sobered up but had an employer who paid his fines and lawyer fees, and got his recorded cleaned up and obtained his CDL. I guess all it takes is money and a good lawyer.

I know a guy that used to live here that got 2 within 3 hrs. Know another gal that had a blow and go that would sit in the bar all night, when it was closing time she would pay someone sober to blow in the machine. Finally got caught doing that and was sentenced to 5 years in prison.

Pretty sure this deserves it's own new thread titled "how to remove the alcohol sensor thingy" archive material right there...

friend got one in Ohio-they aint messin around there.took about everything but his b-day.

PA and NY aren't far behind nowadays.

Iam asking for a friend...right ? .....LMAO !

Knew a old guy in the 80s he was a fairly wealthy farmer on the edge of town... think he had 17 ..couple were on his tractor.. rode his horse to the bar.. was in prison couple times. one time was said he set extra time so no parole and when got brought back to town had them drop him off at the bar..some people dont want to quit.

Illinois is supposed to be tough on this but my cousin has five so far. No jail. I don't know how he does it. He has not even had to have the breathalyzer to start his vehicle. The last one he said '' a deer ran out in front of him and made him run off the road''. He got the ticket for it anyway.

He was high up in a union here. I know there is one lawyer the union guys go to and he makes things '' disappear ''.

A friend (nice guy hard worker give you the shirt off his back) but had to party hard 3 days in a row straight through. Got several 4,5? back to back and his last one was a wreck in which the other occupant got hurt bad. He did 10 years and this was about 1999 in PA. I kept warning him to quit driving innebriated but he just had to keep getting in his vehicle.

Guy I know ha 9 that's NINE DUI's, and finally got hit with actual punishment on his 10th that's TENTH. Big fine, lost licence for 10 years and did 6 months in jail.

Nope, not me. Had plenty of chances, but I always lived in a rural area.

I was lucky too....Nevah got caught in my youth...when the drinking age was 18

I believe in PA you loose your gun privileges .

Cab rides are cheap compared to the cost of a DUI or a Life!

Only 3? Is he an underachiever?

Thanks for the unsolicited advice. Everybody knows better, but it still happens.