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Re: Illegal migrants recieve US benifits [Re: Wadarbr549] #6524611
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Originally Posted by Wadarbr549
Illegal immigrants can’t get government benifits. I mean you got to have a social security number to get food stamps or anything.


Not true. A FAIR study in 2017 found illegal immigrants are a net consumer of taxpayer benefits worth more than $100 billion a year. While federal benefits are supposed to be off limits, in practice many are not. More than 25,000 undocumented workers received subsidized housing, according to the US Department of Housing and Urban Development. Children receive free education and most qualify for English lessons and free school breakfast and lunch.

Illegal immigrants don't qualify for Obamacare, but under federal law, hospitals and clinics are required to provide urgent medical care without regard to legal status. Infant delivery costs are paid for by Medicaid.

According to the Center for Immigration Studies, 31% of such families use the SNAP program and more than 50% of Central American families in the US use at least one welfare program.


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Re: Illegal migrants recieve US benifits [Re: snowy] #6524990
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Stop assuming all illegals are milking the system. I've known and worked with illegals from all over ther world. Most that I've known are hard working individuals/ families who live very humbly, that's how they afford the "nicer" things. 99% of them don't come with debt pay with cash.

It's amazing what you can do when you don't have debt and live within your means. Do you really need the 2500 sq ft house for your family of 5, only to struggle to pay the bills etc...?



It should be mentioned that many illegals have lived two to three families to household,....a bit of a game changer to say the least.

Re: Illegal migrants recieve US benifits [Re: Wadarbr549] #6524996
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Originally Posted by Wadarbr549
Illegal immigrants can’t get government benifits. I mean you got to have a social security number to get food stamps or anything.



No, but they can on behalf of their US born kids. There's the rub.


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Re: Illegal migrants recieve US benifits [Re: snowy] #6524997
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Very true. Also include those that work usually work 2+ jobs

Re: Illegal migrants recieve US benifits [Re: beaverpeeler] #6525004
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I have a different attitude about illegal immigrants than most on here. My thinking is that their labor is a valuable asset to our economy and if with-held would cause a major downturn for all of us.

In 2018 illegal aliens contributed 13 billion to the SSA. Money that they probably will not get back in benefits unless laws are changed later. And I'm OK with that...pay to play. Except for schools and medical I don't agree with benefits for illegals. Schools they already pay taxes for, and to deny medical is just flat wrong.

I wish we had native born folks to take ag jobs like the ones I can never fill. But it ain't happening. For us farmers skilled ag labor is a precious commodity that is unfortunately shrinking. Strawberry farmers are switching to crops that can be machine picked. In October when I pick late blueberries I can't find anybody to pick since the vineyards are paying over $20 an hour for labor.


If SSA is accepting illegal contributions, wouldn't that be illegal? Tells you something right there.


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Re: Illegal migrants recieve US benifits [Re: snowy] #6525176
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If the private sector has a labor shortage, seems a simple and viable economic solution would be to free up some American labor by reducing the government workforce. I hate to see anybody lose a job, but it would appear there are ample opportunities for employment in the private sector for any hard working former government employee. Sure the private sector work will be easier and less challenging then the important work than they used to accomplish everyday, but I'm sure since all government employees are the best workers in America it would be a good natural fit.

"Mexicans sent home $26.1 billion from January to November 2017, according to figures released Tuesday by the central bank of Mexico. That's the most ever recorded and better than the $24.1 billion sent in 2016 over the same period."

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