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pipe dram set - haylage #6524853
04/24/19 07:41 PM
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I used the pipe dream set this last season with good success and want to use it in the future for over half of all my sets. I know that the originator of this set uses haylage. I live in Nebraska and asked around and no one around here process's that. I was wondering if anyone knew where I could get some. sure would save me some time using something already cut up instead of cutting grass up with my hand shears at every set. Thanks

Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: plainstrapping25] #6524856
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use the bagger on your lawn mower
dry it on a tarp
bag it and keep for trapping season

Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: plainstrapping25] #6524859
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Haylage is just the small short scrap/debris left over from hay bales being processed / stored . You pick / use the bales and its the stuff thats left on the floor .

Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: plainstrapping25] #6524867
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Ok. So basically the same thing as "chaff". Good I got a lot of that laying around.

Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: plainstrapping25] #6524879
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Rake up dry clippings or lay out hay and mow over it

Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: plainstrapping25] #6524881
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your lawn clippings will work fine..put on a tarp and dry in the sun and bag them until the season

Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: plainstrapping25] #6524884
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Ok. That's a great idea to mow over hay. Gotta do that. Thanks alot

Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: plainstrapping25] #6524900
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The chafe from rolled hay would probably work, however haylage is silage made from wheat, rye grass, or other grass type forages. If there are dairys in the area they would probably be your best bet for finding haylage. I usually cut up grass on site, but the grass clipping suggestions sound pretty good.

Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: plainstrapping25] #6524941
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Hope Lazarus chimes in. I don't think he meant high moisture fermented alfalfa, sorgum and other "grass" crops that are actually haylage. In fact I'm pretty sure he even posted about using dry lawnmower cutting. Ditto for grass hay chaff.


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Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: plainstrapping25] #6525006
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Lawnmower clippings are just about perfect. Make sure you dry them out and you'll be in business. They are easy to carry around. I store mine in empty cattle mineral buckets and then you can throw them in burlack sacks. I mainly use it for trail sets for coons or bobcats, but I have no question it would work fine for Zag's set.


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Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: plainstrapping25] #6525039
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I just run dried field grass through the shredder vac.

Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: white marlin] #6525050
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Originally Posted by white marlin
I just run dried field grass through the shredder vac.

I think the big thing is that it's chopped up. I never used it in a trapping set, but I can see why it would work.


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Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: plainstrapping25] #6525121
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I buy these bags @ Amazon and fill them with grass clippings. Some say that grass is no good in the big woods but they didn't tell that to the coyotes. I usually lightly cover an area three or four times bigger than the trap.

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Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: ebsurveyor] #6525193
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I have used grass clippings a lot in the past. Those work fine. I now just pick up two or three bales of hay, put it out, spread out a bit, and mow back and forth. When it gets cut down about the right side I bag it up in those duck decoy bags that sort of look like expanded metal but made of some fabric. I hang them in the green house to dry.

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Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: ebsurveyor] #6525267
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I use the same bags do you dry the grass or just hang them up to dry in the bag ? I'm trying just hanging the bag this year


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Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: plainstrapping25] #6525290
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Explained by zagger before. He uses fresh cut and dried haylage, not fermented haylage. Fremented stinks to high heaven. Once it goes thru a chopper the pieces are consistently small in haylage, necessary for ensiling and handy for trapping. He gets a pile delivered and dries and stores it himself. Has previously said he wishes he never mentioned it as it has led to a million questions about the same thing.

Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: wr otis] #6525314
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haylage is a forage crop chopped at about 50% moisture with the goal of getting most particles about 1 inch or less in length so it packs well in silos and bunkers. It is not the waste or end crop of chopping dry bales. If you have any large dairies near you most will have tons of haylage packed away. Get some and freeze. lawn clippings work for me but I sprinkle dry dirt on to hold in place due to wind. If you live in NE you will be dealing with the wind.

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Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: plainstrapping25] #6525342
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Read my post BRYCE. Good grief now I know how zaggers feels.

Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: plainstrapping25] #6525350
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If you know somebody that grinds big bales and mixes it with silage you want the ground up dry hay not the insiled or wet fermented hay.

Re: pipe dram set - haylage [Re: plainstrapping25] #6525354
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From multiple conversations with Mark and a trip to Coyote U, grass clippings from his lawn is all he is using at them sets.

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