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Illegals and Measles #6525217
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Ok ,every night on the news we see measles epidemic. BUT , NEVER NOT ONCE has anyone has mentioned how many illegals may or may not have the shots. Maybe , just maybe they contributed to the out break.

Re: Illegals and Measles [Re: jbyrd63] #6525218
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Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. Doesn't much matter when we have enough of our own idiots contributing to the problem.

Re: Illegals and Measles [Re: jbyrd63] #6525219
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There bringing a plague of multi diseases that were almost wiped out prior this rush at the boarder for years.

Re: Illegals and Measles [Re: jbyrd63] #6525240
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Smallpox comes to mind.


I don't care how nice the hand soap smells, you should never walk out of the restroom sniffing your fingers.
Re: Illegals and Measles [Re: jbyrd63] #6525252
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Smallpox has been considered eradicated worldwide since 1980. The last case of smallpox was recorded in 1977 and there has not been a naturally occurring case since then.

Re: Illegals and Measles [Re: Ronaround] #6525281
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Originally Posted by Ronaround
There bringing a plague of multi diseases that were almost wiped out prior this rush at the boarder for years.

Told my wife several years ago that was going to happen.


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Re: Illegals and Measles [Re: jbyrd63] #6525285
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TB is a bigger threat with the unscreened illegals, a lot of the blame is the "no shots for my kid" groups of today. What about zika and the other stuff that comes in with unscreened illegals, that's kind of the reason for legal immigration and the steps involved!


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Re: Illegals and Measles [Re: jbyrd63] #6525356
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LOL Some of you don't seem to even know what you're talking about.

Re: Illegals and Measles [Re: jbyrd63] #6525373
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TB is a public health concern, particularly in developing countries’ most vulnerable populations. In 2010, over 18,000 TB cases were reported in Mexico; 20% were individuals with diabetes and 5.9% were co-infected with HIV/AIDS.


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Re: Illegals and Measles [Re: jbyrd63] #6525417
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There is a resurgence in TB,and the strain is drug resistant.
Nature always manages its overproduction in horrific ways.


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Re: Illegals and Measles [Re: jbyrd63] #6525419
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You’ll notice the outbreaks have began where the anti-vaccination crowds are heavy. Doesn’t matter how it got here as much as why aren’t children vaccinated.


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Re: Illegals and Measles [Re: jbyrd63] #6525420
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Maybe the cartels have a good health plan they are not talking about, I know their retirement plan sucks!


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Originally Posted by WadeRyan
You’ll notice the outbreaks have began where the anti-vaccination crowds are heavy. Doesn’t matter how it got here as much as why aren’t children vaccinated.



When I was growing up in IL no shots no school no way around it back then.


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Re: Illegals and Measles [Re: jbyrd63] #6525441
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Me too Jerry, unfortunately that’s not the case anymore. I’ve challenged multiple parents to drop their unvaccinated children in a hot zone and let me know how they fare. Most bring up the government conspiracy of hurting the children with vaccines. I did the research from a non-CDC source (they believe nothing that a government program reports). In a study of 1.5 million children that had received an MMR vaccine by meta-analysis they were three times more likely to get struck by lightening then suffer a severe consequence of the vaccine (including death). When I tell them to beat those odds of non-debilitation with their unvaccinated children where MMR is common it’s usually the end of the debate.


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Re: Illegals and Measles [Re: Law Dog] #6525463
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Originally Posted by WadeRyan
You’ll notice the outbreaks have began where the anti-vaccination crowds are heavy. Doesn’t matter how it got here as much as why aren’t children vaccinated.



When I was growing up in IL no shots no school no way around it back then.

Same here


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Re: Illegals and Measles [Re: M.Magis] #6525556
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Originally Posted by M.Magis
LOL Some of you don't seem to even know what you're talking about.


You seem a little rabid.


You up to date on all your shots?


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Re: Illegals and Measles [Re: jbyrd63] #6525617
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My brothers wife and son came here legally this past December from Venezuela. The biggest concern health wise for them to come hear was passing a TB test.

Re: Illegals and Measles [Re: jbyrd63] #6525652
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So if we had it eliminated and it's here again just where could it of come from then? LOL Seriously is it rocket science folks.


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Originally Posted by Law Dog
So if we had it eliminated and it's here again just where could it of come from then? LOL Seriously is it rocket science folks.


People travel all over the world Jerry. We have a number of people here for college, visiting, and yes illegal. I'm not a proponent of open borders but to say that illegal immigration is the biggest cause of the resurgence of the disease in the United States I would say is false. The measles are rampant in third world countries it's only appearing here again because children aren't getting vaccinated. The key to your statement "so if WE had it eliminated," yes the United States had it all but eliminated but it's just been sitting in those third world countries waiting to expose itself again. It's never truly been eradicated. There's some third world countries where people trying to give children the polio vaccine are being killed because villagers have been told it's a vaccine to sterilize the children.....You've got to think outside of South Dakota.

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Re: Illegals and Measles [Re: jbyrd63] #6525667
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Why do you think it is you're not allowed to sue the vaccine companies, if side effects are as rare as you say? Do you see how that might make one suspicious?


I wrestle with this topic. You say there is a better chance of getting struck by lightning. Do you let your kids play in the lightning too?

One of things that pushed me over the edge was my neighbor, a teacher's aide, had a grandson with the worst case of chicken pox she had ever seen.

And he was vaccinated.


Unvaccinated people don't spread diseases.


People with diseases do.

I, in part,blame a society that is a slave to money that sends their kids to school, daycare, ect. when they are sick.

We homeschool our kids. My kids have never had to have an antibiotic. Guess we aren't the source of disease.


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