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I am Not a scope snob #6526653
04/27/19 02:04 PM
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My budget is $175 .I want 4x12 with side focus (parallax adjustment ) I need the side focus . Not picky on the reticle or the objective lens size but want capped adjustment knobs .This will probably not be "known brand " but there might be a sleeper startup company ! signed skinflint


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Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: g smith] #6526656
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Nikon pro staff should be close to that budget. They are really good scopes for the $$$. I have one in my 22-250 300 mag and 338 win mag

Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: Sask hunter] #6526691
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If I was hunting sheep in the mountains of Alaska or in the Rockies and expected a long shot in bad conditions, I understand buying the best, because if you have the money to chase sheep you can spend the money in most cases.

I was a Swarovski dealer for 8 years and never bought myself a pair, (wholesale being not much cheaper than Cabela's retail price in all honesty), as I never needed them. I do appreciate the difference at the highest level of optics, but I never needed it for the hunting that I did. I have some Nikons now that do everything I need. If I was a guide who had clients looking for horns, of course I would need the best.

God bless everyone who buys them and enjoys them. Good for the economy.


Twenty years ago I had the luck to sit next to Didier Swarovski on a plane in Argentina and smoke his cigarettes and discuss the optics business in the US. He was a very nice man and generous with his wine. He thought at the time that birders would spend more money than hunters for fine optics.

Pete

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Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: g smith] #6526773
04/27/19 05:51 PM
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Big difference between cheap and quality glass you can't hit well if you can't see well!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: g smith] #6526793
04/27/19 06:27 PM
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These have worked well for me.. When I dont want to spend $600 on a scope for the kids.
https://www.amazon.com/Burris-42mm-...;qid=1556403734&s=gateway&sr=8-1

Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: g smith] #6526829
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I have had expensive scopes on rifles and the more reasonable scopes on rifles. I have sent the expensive scopes back to the factory more often then a more reasonable scopes.

Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: swift4me] #6526831
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Originally Posted by swift4me
He thought at the time that birders would spend more money than hunters for fine optics.


I'll bet they do.

Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: g smith] #6526841
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Sorry, guys. In rifle scopes, like many other things, you get what you pay for.

A low-priced scope may suit the conditions under which you hunt, but recognize you could save up your money a bit longer and buy higher quality.

Jim


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Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: g smith] #6526957
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I like Vortex, Nikon and Leopold scopes, I also own a Burris M TAC on an LAR 308 and it is a nice scope. All have scopes in the mid budget like from 180 on up.

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Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: g smith] #6526971
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being that you want side focus bushnell and Athalon are about the only 2 offer side focus and that fit your budget if you would go front focus you could add Hawke to the list

if you don't need the focus and I haven't found a big need for it on My Vortex 4-12 then you could find something in a Nikon or Vortex


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Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: g smith] #6526980
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For 175 bucks, i would save up my money a bit more. I have done the cheap scope route for many years because it was all i could afford. I dont own any of those scopes anymore. The leupold vx freedom series would probably be about the cheapest i would consider, but they dont fit your specs. A low end burris or nikon as mentioned already would be looking into maybe. I would rather just shoot iron sights than waste money on a cheap scope though. Nothing but trouble.


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Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: g smith] #6527033
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I have 2 of the Vortex 4x12 with AO the are great for what I do except I have difficulty twisting the bell due to an old injury .Thats why I want the side focus. Thanks for the suggestions ,looks like I will try the Bushy ! I will let you know how the gophers like it .


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Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: g smith] #6527777
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Originally Posted by g smith
I have 2 of the Vortex 4x12 with AO the are great for what I do except I have difficulty twisting the bell due to an old injury .Thats why I want the side focus. Thanks for the suggestions ,looks like I will try the Bushy ! I will let you know how the gophers like it .

If daytime gophers are what you need it for, I less expensive scope will work fine. The high dollar scopes really shine in low light conditions, or looking toward a recent sunset.

Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: g smith] #6528050
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If you have a Scheel's near by, their brand scopes are reasonably priced and they stand by their free replacement no matter the cause. I run over a pair of binos with the 4 wheeler and they didn't even ask questions and just gave me a new pair off the shelf the same day and they supposedly do the same with scopes.

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Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: g smith] #6528110
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Try to find a good used scope with a lifetime guarantee. Send it back to the company to be checked out.

Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: g smith] #6528123
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Amazon . look for cvlife scope. For the price the glass is not half bad. Give them a shot if you wish.


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Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: g smith] #6528142
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When you buy quality, you only cry once !

Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: g smith] #6528178
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I have a Bushnell 4-12 with the twist adjust ao it is actually the replacement for an early 2000s Bushnell 4-12 that broke after about 15 years, Bushnell honored their warranty and sent me the new scope when the old one broke


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Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: TraderVic] #6528274
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Originally Posted by TraderVic
When you buy quality, you only cry once !

Well stated. After you shoot with a high quality scope, those tears dry right up and you are left with nothing but smiles.

Re: I am Not a scope snob [Re: g smith] #6528380
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If I were you I'd buy a used Vortex as expensive as you can afford. Then, someday if you break it you get a new one


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