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Black coyotes ? #6529374
05/01/19 11:55 AM
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Who has pictures of some black coyotes?

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529384
05/01/19 12:08 PM
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Nother black coyote

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529412
05/01/19 12:57 PM
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I would trade 3 prime Manitoba coyotes for 1 black coyote. Wish we had them here.


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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529436
05/01/19 01:34 PM
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Lots of blacks ones down here

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529437
05/01/19 01:35 PM
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Schoharie County, NY
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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529438
05/01/19 01:36 PM
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Im still working on my picture posting skills. Dont know why it posts side ways??

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529441
05/01/19 01:38 PM
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More black ones?

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529470
05/01/19 02:27 PM
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Small one

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529471
05/01/19 02:27 PM
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Well medium sized for south alabama

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529500
05/01/19 03:06 PM
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Black pig in MB 550

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529580
05/01/19 05:32 PM
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South Alabama
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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529581
05/01/19 05:33 PM
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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: ETexTrapper] #6529590
05/01/19 05:45 PM
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Some from a job in South alabama 8 in one day. Some black

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529592
05/01/19 05:48 PM
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It seams like On some jobs i just run into black coyotes. Some i dont. Clarke County Alabama has lots of black/grey coyotes Sumter County Alabama has LOTS of jet black coyotes

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529608
05/01/19 06:11 PM
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Where do you sell the black coyotes you catch? Do you sell green or put them up? Thanks.


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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: wissmiss] #6529616
05/01/19 06:23 PM
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I mostly do contract work on coyotes. Most jobs are own by large corperate groups. Someone ALWAYS wants a black coyote. Special the ones with white throat patches. So i an alway taking one ti someones house, fish camp, or taxadermist

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529619
05/01/19 06:29 PM
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S/W Wisconsin
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Great pics guys. Steeltraps, what kind of set do you have the best luck with? By the looks of your pics you got it down and are doing very well on the coyotes.


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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: rpmartin] #6529629
05/01/19 06:43 PM
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rpmartain. Thanks. Been doing this along time. 30 years. Caught 307 coyote last year in Alabama in about 7 months time. Most of my work is on large tracts. In hot weather. August/September is Most of the states fawning season. I get real busy then I trap same places year after year. So i find myself using LOTS of Flat Sets from March to July. But come July August. When pups hit the ground i go 50/50. Large dirt holes and Flat Sets. Ants Red Ants are tuff at times here

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529650
05/01/19 07:29 PM
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Wow, that's a bunch of coyotes. Would love to pics of some of your sets if possible, if not I completely understand. Thanks


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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: rpmartin] #6529675
05/01/19 08:02 PM
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I will take some picks next week. Start 10 day coyote contract friday

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529680
05/01/19 08:10 PM
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Deep dirt holes

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529683
05/01/19 08:14 PM
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Flat set. Set it then spray water on it. To blend it in

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529751
05/01/19 09:23 PM
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Thanks for the pics. Do you use much guiding on your flat sets. Reason I ask is I have too many misses on flat sets and am thinking the issue is guiding. I hate misses! Lol


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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529761
05/01/19 09:36 PM
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No, to be honest I dont use any guiding at flat sets. Just coyote gland lure ans urine this time of year

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529774
05/01/19 09:49 PM
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Steeltraps, does the coyote in your first picture have blue eyes???
I’ve never seen anything but yellow, that is way cool !!!!

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: clintp1971] #6529791
05/01/19 09:59 PM
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clintp1971, yes he does. Check out the thread above this one . Coyote teeth Wear ? I posted some pics of a Blue eyed Wolf like coyote I caught last year. Along with a green eyed / Blue eyed coyote on the = Fall Coyote Thread

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6530325
05/02/19 07:18 PM
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I saw it too. Those are really cool. Congrats, I’ve never caught a black one but check this one out.

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6530326
05/02/19 07:19 PM
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Dang sideways picture!!!

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6530405
05/02/19 09:26 PM
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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6532419
05/06/19 10:40 AM
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Great pictures- No black ones here but red like a big fox is common


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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6532424
05/06/19 10:55 AM
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East OK & West AR
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I did a post back in January for this one I caught. He is at the taxidermist now.

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6532679
05/06/19 08:13 PM
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Okiecntry, that is beautiful!!!! Congrats, I would mount that one too

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: clintp1971] #6532706
05/06/19 09:13 PM
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White one from last year

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6532858
05/07/19 07:29 AM
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Don't want to offend anyone, but they are kinda ugly critters. LOL Other than the taxi market, is the fur worth anything?

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: LDW] #6533068
05/07/19 12:37 PM
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LDW Fur down in Alabama has NEVER been worth much when its comes to coyotes. Friend of mine sent about 80 coyotes off a couple a years ago. He got like 460 dollars. For 5 dollars you keep the shinning. I just do contract jobs and throw them in the ditch

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6535391
05/10/19 09:33 PM
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Got quite a few around me ST. Usually pick up several every year.

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6535588
05/11/19 12:10 AM
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There was an interesting article on off color coyotes that hypothesized this:

"New genetic tests show that all eastern coyotes are actually a mix of three species: coyote, wolf and dog. The percentages vary, dependent upon exactly which test is applied and the geographic location of the canine.

Coyotes in the Northeast are mostly (60%-84%) coyote, with lesser amounts of wolf (8%-25%) and dog (8%-11%). Start moving south or east and this mixture slowly changes. Virginia animals average more dog than wolf (85%:2%:13% coyote:wolf:dog) while coyotes from the Deep South had just a dash of wolf and dog genes mixed in (91%:4%:5% coyote:wolf:dog). Tests show that there are no animals that are just coyote and wolf (that is, a coywolf), and some eastern coyotes that have almost no wolf at all. "


As coyotes just did not migrate to the east, but were imported, and as those imports were from the west, where there is not this type of coloration, even if there are browns to pales, the conclusion would be these coyotes are human generated breedings, which apparently escaped or preferred their wild status to the kennel. It is interesting in the German Shepherd appears to be the base for the thicker fur. They appear resilient thought in Alabama in the genetics are dominating in the melanistic as nature dictates.

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6542846
05/23/19 07:21 PM
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The only black coyote I've gotten in CT.

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6542859
05/23/19 07:54 PM
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Virginia blackie on camera. Nov. last year.



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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6542898
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Very nice Georgiaboy

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: clintp1971] #6542901
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What yalls average weight on black coyotes?? Alabama black coyotes seam to be smaller than orhers, 25 -30 lbs on the black coyotes here

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6544480
05/26/19 08:25 PM
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At one time there was the Florida black wolf . Could these southern black coyotes be wolf / coyotes crosses?

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