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Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6524210
04/23/19 09:01 PM
04/23/19 09:01 PM
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The flagging is to draw them into close proximity of a set. Your bait and/or lure should take over at this point and draw them into the set,
Agree

flagging to divert animals off of open travel routes into snares
Agree
because of two methods of flagging with footholds vs. snares/cable restrains
both spot on

Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6524226
04/23/19 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Hern


flagging to divert animals off of open travel routes into snares
Is that not what I essentially said/implied in my post?

Last edited by bctomcat; 04/23/19 09:26 PM.

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Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6524242
04/23/19 09:26 PM
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No,you are using the flagging as an attractor.
I use flagging to scare an animal off his route.That is using flagging as a diverter,not an attractor.
Like I said Not many know how to effectively use flagging as a diversion.
You can use attraction flagging and diversion flagging at the same time.
I learned from an old time wolf trapper,Jimmy Shank how to do this effectively,it works extremely well for wolves,but can be used in different ways on any animal.

Last edited by Boco; 04/23/19 09:28 PM.

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Re: Flags? [Re: Boco] #6524265
04/23/19 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
No,you are using the flagging as an attractor.
I use flagging to scare an animal off his route.That is using flagging as a diverter,not an attractor.
OK thanks, I now know what you mean. I have never used flagging as an diversion but can understand how it would work on coyotes and wolves.

Last edited by bctomcat; 04/23/19 09:41 PM.

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Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6524877
04/24/19 08:27 PM
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I use a piece of ag bag like Hern, I cut mine 4" wide x 8" long I don't use an eyelet just a large fishing swivel. I put the ag bag flag about head high then a feather flag down low at the set

Re: Flags? [Re: Lazarus] #6525010
04/25/19 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
Originally Posted by Posco
I'm going to try both flagging options mentioned above. I've used flagging on my cat sets and it has brought them close but didn't bring them all the way in. They satisfied their curiosity from a distance and went about their business. I saw the evidence in the snow.


You hit on a truism there Posco.

Think about it. Why does that cat take any interest in your flag? I can only think of a couple reasons: (1) the cat can eat it; (2) the cat can mate with it; or (3) the cat feels threatened because the object poses a threat to its territory dominance. Cats are near sighted so once the cat has closed the distance to the flag to see exactly what it is, if it doesn't create an interest in the three reasons mentioned above, THEN WHY WOULD THE CAT COME ANY CLOSER???

Granted, cats are curious, but I suggest that their curiosity is centered around those three reasons so once they determine your flag is a piece of tape, plastic, CD, foil, cardboard, etc. there is really little interest in coming any closer and they turn to leave.


Tracy, I used tea bags to hold your silvervine and I can't say with certainty which interested the cats more the tea bags floating in the breeze (they make a nice little flag themselves) or the silvervine. I will say that combo accounted for 75% of the cats I caught this year. I stumbled upon your attractor to late in the season last year, but I plan to get some this year in case I have some free time to set out a cat line. That's just the ticket I need here in Nebraska where we can't use real animal parts.


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Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6525620
04/25/19 10:51 PM
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I'll second Lazarus attractors, plus his setup rig...you can see them flickering from a longways out even in the slightest breeze...got this cat last season and the attractor was set right above the set, I guess the cat didn't spook from the attractor...

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Re: Flags? [Re: ambush32] #6525641
04/25/19 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ambush32
I'll second Lazarus attractors, plus his setup rig...you can see them flickering from a longways out even in the slightest breeze...got this cat last season and the attractor was set right above the set, I guess the cat didn't spook from the attractor...


Very cool! Thanks for the photo.

Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6529456
05/01/19 02:05 PM
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Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6529457
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Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6529534
05/01/19 03:54 PM
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Picture's worth a thousand words. So say you have a hedge row that connects two waterways. Since the point of the flag is to draw them near not necessarily right to your set do you think I'd be better off putting a flag up and a set on each approach from the two directions rather than a set with a flag directly over it?


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Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6529557
05/01/19 04:44 PM
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Wade, yes. I would actually set it out a little ways from hedge row so the cat uses the hedge row as its cover to sneak up on the flag, if that makes sense. They will see the flag for a long way out there. Good luck.

Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6532877
05/07/19 08:20 AM
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Sign me up for "Team Enticer"!

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They even double as a beaver attractor! Just kidding, they can take a lot of rain though lol
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Enticers are awesome, cheap and effective, right up my alley. I have more than I can hang. I may even hang 2 per set this year, 1 high, one low, the uses are endless!


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Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6533014
05/07/19 11:58 AM
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Great photos MM!!!

Re: Flags? [Re: Hern] #6533304
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other than a silage possible odor why not trap pan covers also

Re: Flags? [Re: Motley Row] #6968651
08/19/20 05:54 PM
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