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Some things about YOUTUBE #6532952
05/07/19 10:26 AM
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I noticed there is a fair amount of discussion on here lately about YouTube and trapping and hunting channels. I thought I would share some experiences with those of you who have channels or are interested in having channels, from my experience.

1) Making money on Youtube is all about having content that allows you to build a big audience. That means you have to produce good videos that a LOT of people are interested in, have a good personality, and do a good job of editing them. Take a lesson from Kendall Gray who is rolling in the coin, but he has an over-the-top delivery, does crazy stuff, and really knows how to edit. Another example of someone making a lot of money is Robert Arrington whose channel is Deer meat for Dinner. He has a genuine personality, does good (but rudimentary) editing and has a wife that looks amazing in a bikini. (never discount the value of that.)

2) There is a very limited number of trappers so you'll never make any real money just doing trapping videos. There are high school kids making $50,000 a year on YouTube producing fishing videos that are mostly pretty dumb, but there are 100 times more fishermen than there are trappers. Do a combination of stuff and include trapping if you want the channel to really take off. Maybe some bushcraft, primitive hunting, etc. any of that would be a good mix.

3) YouTube's policy at this time is that you need to have 1,000 subscribers before they will monetize your channel. Only a small percentage of channels ever make it. Most trapping channels will never come close to that. If you really want to start making serious money, you need to get to 100,000 subscribers, then you'll be able to sign some paying sponsors and you can sell some Merch. Once you have 100,000 subscribers, the YouTube monetization will allow you to quit your regular job and this extra stuff is just gravy.

4) You need to have a couple videos go viral. This really helps build subscribers and get you some income. I have had a couple that have done really well, including one of a moose attacking a truck I was riding in. This video has produced a nice supplemental income for the past few years.

5) You need to engage the viewers. The more comments and likes your videos get, the more traction it gets on YouTube, which causes more people to see it. This is how they grow, it's the only real way to get the views that pays its own way.

6) Here's a mistake I made: I was approached by several companies who wanted to manage two of my viral videos. They promised me they would market and license my videos and I would make a lot more than I make on YouTube. I did some research and decided to do it with Jukin Media. They gave me a $500 advance and now I get monthly checks from them, but after two years, I actually think I would have made just as much or more if I had kept them monetized by YouTube. Time will tell if this was worth it.

7) You have to make a long-term commitment. You'll need to buy some decent equipment and keep the videos coming. The people making $100K a year and more on YouTube are producing weekly videos. If you do it on a whim and then only produce a few videos during trapping season, you'll never make a dime. It's hard to keep coming up with really good content that people will engage with, but it's the only way to keep it rolling and make enough money to make this worthwhile.

My channel is https://www.youtube.com/user/BowhuntingRoad/ if you want to see what has worked for me.

Good luck, I don't want to discourage you, just offer you some reality. Maybe 330 Maniac will weigh-in on this, he also has a successful channel.

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Re: Some things about YOUTUBE [Re: BernieB.] #6532961
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Good stuff there Bernie. I have several channels that I subscribe too - mostly fishing shows, a couple trapping channels. The fishing guys put a lot of content out so there is always something new to watch. All of the channels I watch regularly are filmed with top notch equipment and have great editing. Nothing I hate worse than shaky, poorly framed video coupled with crap audio. My wife will cut right out of a video if they don't have a decent mic or they can't frame a shot well. There are plenty of actual trapping DVDs that have poor camera and sound work, YouTube trapping videos for the most part are even worse. There are a few guys who do a great job but they are by far the exception.

Re: Some things about YOUTUBE [Re: AnthonyT] #6532965
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Originally Posted by AnthonyT
Good stuff there Bernie. I have several channels that I subscribe too - mostly fishing shows, a couple trapping channels. The fishing guys put a lot of content out so there is always something new to watch. All of the channels I watch regularly are filmed with top notch equipment and have great editing. Nothing I hate worse than shaky, poorly framed video coupled with crap audio. My wife will cut right out of a video if they don't have a decent mic or they can't frame a shot well. There are plenty of actual trapping DVDs that have poor camera and sound work, YouTube trapping videos for the most part are even worse. There are a few guys who do a great job but they are by far the exception.


Good points. People will bail on a bad YouTube video because it only takes a click of the mouse or remote. Click, they're gone. But trappers will pay $30 for a DVD made with a low budget and watch the entire thing if the content is good.[b][/b]

That's an important thing to remember about the quality of YouTube and the content. It's really easy to lose people if they are not fully engaged throughout the entire video.

Re: Some things about YOUTUBE [Re: BernieB.] #6532976
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Bernie, do you have some advise, pointers about what kind of cameras and equipment to use for this. Also editing software.


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Re: Some things about YOUTUBE [Re: Catch22] #6533022
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Originally Posted by Catch22
Bernie, do you have some advise, pointers about what kind of cameras and equipment to use for this. Also editing software.


It's amazing how good of videos the new iPhones take so I use it for quick spur of the moment stuff. DSLR's are being used a lot, but for most stuff I use a Canon Vixia G40 which you can buy a good used one for about $1000-1200. I have a shotgun mic, but I am adding wireless mics this year. I also have a couple go-pros mounted to my boat for fishing and of course I now have a DJI Mavic Pro drone.

Just get started with a good cam and add to it. I use Adobe Premiere Elements to edit, it does everything I need to. There are free programs online to create front screens and end screens. Once you get into it, you'll find there are all kinds of easy ways to dress up your videos.

Re: Some things about YOUTUBE [Re: BernieB.] #6533095
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Thanks for the info. I really like YouTube and find some great content to watch. It’s fascinating all the amateur raw talent on YouTube.

Re: Some things about YOUTUBE [Re: BernieB.] #6533110
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l just add a comment to the content side. Have a plan. Nothing fancy but have a plan for your seasons. This will help focus your content and set a solid theme. I would atleast plan quartly what your shooting year will look like. Things can go from there.

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Re: Some things about YOUTUBE [Re: BernieB.] #6533147
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What about all the legal stuff, like copyrights? And, what happened a couple of years ago when everyone started their patronage accounts?

Re: Some things about YOUTUBE [Re: Steelflight] #6533206
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Originally Posted by Steelflight
l just add a comment to the content side. Have a plan. Nothing fancy but have a plan for your seasons. This will help focus your content and set a solid theme. I would atleast plan quartly what your shooting year will look like. Things can go from there.


Good advice.

Re: Some things about YOUTUBE [Re: BernieB.] #6533223
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Thanks Bernie for taking the time to share that information! Perhaps it will shorten the learning curve of those who are serious about making a go at YouTube video market!

Chris


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Re: Some things about YOUTUBE [Re: Gator Foot] #6533232
05/07/19 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gator Foot
What about all the legal stuff, like copyrights? And, what happened a couple of years ago when everyone started their patronage accounts?


If you produce it an upload it to YouTube they will protect your copyright. Every so often I get an email from them asking if some video belongs to me and sure enough, someone has ripped something off my channel and put it on their channel, so YouTube makes them take it down.

I think your talking about Patreon, which I do not use. I am watching it to see if it is viable before I make a move that way. Don't know much about it yet and I do not know how many producers are using it.

Re: Some things about YOUTUBE [Re: Hodagtrapper] #6533566
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Originally Posted by Hodagtrapper
Thanks Bernie for taking the time to share that information! Perhaps it will shorten the learning curve of those who are serious about making a go at YouTube video market!

Chris


No problem. Just to be clear, I don't want to discourage people from putting trapping videos on YouTube just because you'll probably never make much money at it. I think it is a very good thing for young and novice trappers to have free access to good trapping information that will help them be successful enough so they will stay with it and learn the ethical aspects of it. Sure wish I had all these resources when I got started. Those of us who are putting trapping stuff in the public square need to be mindful that everyone is watching so we represent all trappers when we post videos.

Re: Some things about YOUTUBE [Re: BernieB.] #6534572
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You're dead on with Deer Meat for Dinner and Kendall. They've got it going on and doing a real fine job at it. Kendall has a cult like following of kids and it's paying off big time for him. He seems like a real good kid too and that's another plus for him.

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Originally Posted by dublelung
You're dead on with Deer Meat for Dinner and Kendall. They've got it going on and doing a real fine job at it. Kendall has a cult like following of kids and it's paying off big time for him. He seems like a real good kid too and that's another plus for him.


When I first watched Kendall a couple years ago, I was pretty surprised he has that much of a following, but he has been able to sustain and grow it. The guy would be a riot around a campfire.

Re: Some things about YOUTUBE [Re: BernieB.] #6535087
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
and has a wife that looks amazing in a bikini. (never discount the value of that.) .

I'll get flak probably, but isnt this exploitation? This would actually discourage me from watching.


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Originally Posted by the Blak Spot
Originally Posted by BernieB.
and has a wife that looks amazing in a bikini. (never discount the value of that.) .

I'll get flak probably, but isnt this exploitation? This would actually discourage me from watching.



Maybe you’ll find him attractive

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Originally Posted by the Blak Spot
Originally Posted by BernieB.
and has a wife that looks amazing in a bikini. (never discount the value of that.) .

I'll get flak probably, but isnt this exploitation? This would actually discourage me from watching.


Online pornography is a 9 BILLION dollar a year business, which is exploitation and objectifying of women in the most heinous way and has had extremely negative consequences in the way young men see and relate to women.

A woman in a bikini like in the video below, which has more than 6 million views, could certainly be considered exploitation as well. How many views would this video have if she wasn't in the picture? I think we all get the point. It's the state of our culture today.


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I have tried to watch kendall grey but just can't do it, I am sure he is a nice guy and all but my God he is kinda ditzy.

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Originally Posted by BernieB.
I noticed there is a fair amount of discussion on here lately about YouTube and trapping and hunting channels. I thought I would share some experiences with those of you who have channels or are interested in having channels, from my experience.

1) Making money on Youtube is all about having content that allows you to build a big audience. That means you have to produce good videos that a LOT of people are interested in, have a good personality, and do a good job of editing them. Take a lesson from Kendall Gray who is rolling in the coin, but he has an over-the-top delivery, does crazy stuff, and really knows how to edit. Another example of someone making a lot of money is Robert Arrington whose channel is Deer meat for Dinner. He has a genuine personality, does good (but rudimentary) editing and has a wife that looks amazing in a bikini. (never discount the value of that.)

2) There is a very limited number of trappers so you'll never make any real money just doing trapping videos. There are high school kids making $50,000 a year on YouTube producing fishing videos that are mostly pretty dumb, but there are 100 times more fishermen than there are trappers. Do a combination of stuff and include trapping if you want the channel to really take off. Maybe some bushcraft, primitive hunting, etc. any of that would be a good mix.

3) YouTube's policy at this time is that you need to have 1,000 subscribers before they will monetize your channel. Only a small percentage of channels ever make it. Most trapping channels will never come close to that. If you really want to start making serious money, you need to get to 100,000 subscribers, then you'll be able to sign some paying sponsors and you can sell some Merch. Once you have 100,000 subscribers, the YouTube monetization will allow you to quit your regular job and this extra stuff is just gravy.

4) You need to have a couple videos go viral. This really helps build subscribers and get you some income. I have had a couple that have done really well, including one of a moose attacking a truck I was riding in. This video has produced a nice supplemental income for the past few years.

5) You need to engage the viewers. The more comments and likes your videos get, the more traction it gets on YouTube, which causes more people to see it. This is how they grow, it's the only real way to get the views that pays its own way.

6) Here's a mistake I made: I was approached by several companies who wanted to manage two of my viral videos. They promised me they would market and license my videos and I would make a lot more than I make on YouTube. I did some research and decided to do it with Jukin Media. They gave me a $500 advance and now I get monthly checks from them, but after two years, I actually think I would have made just as much or more if I had kept them monetized by YouTube. Time will tell if this was worth it.

7) You have to make a long-term commitment. You'll need to buy some decent equipment and keep the videos coming. The people making $100K a year and more on YouTube are producing weekly videos. If you do it on a whim and then only produce a few videos during trapping season, you'll never make a dime. It's hard to keep coming up with really good content that people will engage with, but it's the only way to keep it rolling and make enough money to make this worthwhile.

My channel is https://www.youtube.com/user/BowhuntingRoad/ if you want to see what has worked for me.

Good luck, I don't want to discourage you, just offer you some reality. Maybe 330 Maniac will weigh-in on this, he also has a successful channel.


Hey Bernie, How much do you thing she's making from youtube?



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