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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529680
05/01/19 08:10 PM
05/01/19 08:10 PM
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alabama
steeltraps Offline OP
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Deep dirt holes

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529683
05/01/19 08:14 PM
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alabama
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Flat set. Set it then spray water on it. To blend it in

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529751
05/01/19 09:23 PM
05/01/19 09:23 PM
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S/W Wisconsin
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Thanks for the pics. Do you use much guiding on your flat sets. Reason I ask is I have too many misses on flat sets and am thinking the issue is guiding. I hate misses! Lol


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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529761
05/01/19 09:36 PM
05/01/19 09:36 PM
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No, to be honest I dont use any guiding at flat sets. Just coyote gland lure ans urine this time of year

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6529774
05/01/19 09:49 PM
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tennessee
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Steeltraps, does the coyote in your first picture have blue eyes???
I’ve never seen anything but yellow, that is way cool !!!!

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: clintp1971] #6529791
05/01/19 09:59 PM
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clintp1971, yes he does. Check out the thread above this one . Coyote teeth Wear ? I posted some pics of a Blue eyed Wolf like coyote I caught last year. Along with a green eyed / Blue eyed coyote on the = Fall Coyote Thread

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6530325
05/02/19 07:18 PM
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I saw it too. Those are really cool. Congrats, I’ve never caught a black one but check this one out.

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6530326
05/02/19 07:19 PM
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Dang sideways picture!!!

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6530405
05/02/19 09:26 PM
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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6532419
05/06/19 10:40 AM
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Peoria County Illinois
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Great pictures- No black ones here but red like a big fox is common


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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6532424
05/06/19 10:55 AM
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East OK & West AR
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I did a post back in January for this one I caught. He is at the taxidermist now.

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6532679
05/06/19 08:13 PM
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Okiecntry, that is beautiful!!!! Congrats, I would mount that one too

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: clintp1971] #6532706
05/06/19 09:13 PM
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alabama
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White one from last year

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6532858
05/07/19 07:29 AM
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Don't want to offend anyone, but they are kinda ugly critters. LOL Other than the taxi market, is the fur worth anything?

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: LDW] #6533068
05/07/19 12:37 PM
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LDW Fur down in Alabama has NEVER been worth much when its comes to coyotes. Friend of mine sent about 80 coyotes off a couple a years ago. He got like 460 dollars. For 5 dollars you keep the shinning. I just do contract jobs and throw them in the ditch

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6535391
05/10/19 09:33 PM
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Got quite a few around me ST. Usually pick up several every year.

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6535588
05/11/19 12:10 AM
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There was an interesting article on off color coyotes that hypothesized this:

"New genetic tests show that all eastern coyotes are actually a mix of three species: coyote, wolf and dog. The percentages vary, dependent upon exactly which test is applied and the geographic location of the canine.

Coyotes in the Northeast are mostly (60%-84%) coyote, with lesser amounts of wolf (8%-25%) and dog (8%-11%). Start moving south or east and this mixture slowly changes. Virginia animals average more dog than wolf (85%:2%:13% coyote:wolf:dog) while coyotes from the Deep South had just a dash of wolf and dog genes mixed in (91%:4%:5% coyote:wolf:dog). Tests show that there are no animals that are just coyote and wolf (that is, a coywolf), and some eastern coyotes that have almost no wolf at all. "


As coyotes just did not migrate to the east, but were imported, and as those imports were from the west, where there is not this type of coloration, even if there are browns to pales, the conclusion would be these coyotes are human generated breedings, which apparently escaped or preferred their wild status to the kennel. It is interesting in the German Shepherd appears to be the base for the thicker fur. They appear resilient thought in Alabama in the genetics are dominating in the melanistic as nature dictates.

Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6542846
05/23/19 07:21 PM
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Suffield, CT
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The only black coyote I've gotten in CT.

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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6542859
05/23/19 07:54 PM
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VA
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Virginia blackie on camera. Nov. last year.



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Re: Black coyotes ? [Re: steeltraps] #6542898
05/23/19 09:05 PM
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Very nice Georgiaboy

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