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Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: Scout1] #6536800
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Grasshopper has the best ride..... Hands down. The front deck that is. Takes deep pockets to get on one though

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Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: Scout1] #6536810
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K snow - my hustler is smoother than my old lawn tractor for sure. Not gonna say it's the smoothest out there by no means. Some of the hustler models you can buy a smooth ride seat of some sort similar to an air ride.

Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: trapdog1] #6536844
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Everything Lee said is spot on. I bought a 61" Snapper last year and love it. Not only does it mow faster, I don't feel like I've been beat up when I'm done mowing like with my old tractor.


That's what I have, a Snapper 61" deck zero turn with a 24 hp Kubota engine. Best lawn mower I ever had. Would never go back to a lawn tractor.


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Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: Scout1] #6536940
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Thanks for the info guys. Main reason I'd want a grass catcher is for leaves in the fall. It seems to me the zero turns have a wider wheel base than most garden lawn tractors,hence making them more stable side to side on hills? It's not so much up and down hills but side to side.


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Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: Scout1] #6536947
05/13/19 08:31 PM
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Seems to me a catcher is not really necessary on a zero turn. Mine doesn't really leave any windrows. I use it to chop the leaves as well.

Once you use a zero turn, you won't want to mow with anything else. A tractor is still handy to have, just don't want to mow with it any more.

Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: Scout1] #6536952
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I love Zero Turns. I don't understand how people like tractors over them. They don't go up and down hills great and can make marks and that's the only problem, but they go across hills fine. I can do a yard in half the time with a Zero Turn versus a tractor. There is a lot of Zero turn options out there and I have a very biased experience with them so I can't give much info there.


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Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: CoonsBane] #6536963
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Originally Posted by CoonsBane
Seems to me a catcher is not really necessary on a zero turn. Mine doesn't really leave any windrows. I use it to chop the leaves as well.

Once you use a zero turn, you won't want to mow with anything else. A tractor is still handy to have, just don't want to mow with it any more.


The mulch kit on mine likes to leave windrows no matter how high I mow. Next mower will have a selectable mulch or discharge. I hate grass catchers wtih a passion. Nothing is more annoying than having to stop to empty or worse u clogging a grass catchers. I'll take the sweeper out if the grass gets too high.

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Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: Scout1] #6536965
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If your mulch kit windrows grass take it off. I use a mulch kit for leaves and when I run thru a lawn covered in leaves it looks like I vacuumed them up.

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Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: Scout1] #6536968
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I have a Kubota 725 zero turn with a 60" deck. I mow 8 acres My tractor with a 60" deck used to take me 6 hours. The zero turn, I can do it in 2.5 and it's a nicer cut. Best grass cutting investment I ever made. It's ok on slopes. It will slide a little easier than a tractor but they have a very low center of gravity so rolling one is harder than rolling a tractor.


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Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: Scout1] #6536969
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Once you get a zero turn you wonít want anything else, I put some aggressive bar tires on mine.. works well if you donít turn hard in wet grass... Iím on a time limit, so I turn and burn, donít care if it peels out... Iím on gravel ground with hills

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Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: Scout1] #6536972
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We've had a JD Z930A for almost 9 years and it's a wonderfully reliable, easy to use rig. Change the oil and blades and roll!
And the JD hold their value well also. 54" deck cut makes fast work of acreages.


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Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: Scout1] #6536976
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Got a X mark a month or so ago, rich lawyer I don't think knew how to run it, had 70 hours on and looked brand new for 1500.00, mowed with it about 3 times now and im spoiled, takes about half the time it use to with a reg. riding mower. 23 hp Kawasaki engine really slings the grass!


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Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: Scout1] #6537201
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I have a Ferris. It has coil over shocks on all 4 corners. There isn't another machine made that rides better. It is a very reliable machine, just replaced all the belts this spring. They were the factory belts, they had 1400 hours on them. I mowed 630 lawns last year with no breakdowns. I've had 5 back surgeries, that's why I bought it in the first place. Have mowed over 100 this year already. I'm really particular about the cut and it does a beautiful job. Will recommend to anyone.

Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: Scout1] #6537437
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I was looking at simplicity citation, 27 horse 61 inch cut. similar to the ferris. I think there built by the same company. looking to cut my mowing time.

Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: Scout1] #6537573
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Buy a Scag. They invented zero turn mowers. Get a real commercial model with the velocity deck. No need to bag or rake grass.

For leaves in the fall I put on mulching blades. No more raking leaves.

Full suspension platform so it rides like a Lincoln. 52Ē cut with 22hp engine. Lots of power.

I was mowing with a small Ford diesel 1220 tractor with a 60Ē belly mower which took 4 hours. Same mowing which looks better and is more fun takes 1.5 hours.

That saved me more than 50 hours last summer. 2 summers and it paid for itself.

Tractors are for tractor work. Very different from mowing yard grass. With a tractor the best you can get is a Woods 3 point finish mower. I used one of those for many years and loved it. The same mowing with that took 3 hours.

My brother in law bought a cheap zero turn. Nobody would use it because it gave a horrible ride. He sold it cheap.

Nothing compares to my Scag zero turn for mowing grass. Turn on the Bluetooth headphones and connect to iPod for albums or pandora and enjoy the ride.

Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: Scout1] #6537587
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My buddy had problems with cheap zero turns going across slopes. The drive units werenít independent or something. The higher end model worked fine. He bought one of them bad boy at tsc and returned it with the 30 day garuntee.

Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: Scout1] #6538229
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Any ideas on a John Deere Z445? Guy I work with has one he is consider selling. Low hours. Believe he said it's got a 27 hp. Briggs. I don't really need that much power but if it's the right price. Grass catcher would run about $1500!!!!


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Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: Scout1] #6538542
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i love zero turns - used to cut parks and ball fields for the rec department and that is the only way to go.

i tried one at my house - but it is mostly sloping with some spots that like to stay soggy and the zero turn just was not the answer.

i ended up with a cub cadet tractor, 54", 24 hp, and it hasn't let me down in the 6 years i've had it


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Re: Zero turn vs. Garden Tractors [Re: Scout1] #6538543
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i love zero turns - used to cut parks and ball fields for the rec department and that is the only way to go.

i tried one at my house - but it is mostly sloping with some spots that like to stay soggy and the zero turn just was not the answer.

i ended up with a cub cadet tractor, 54", 24 hp, and it hasn't let me down in the 6 years i've had it


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