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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6537412
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Im tired of wars that really ain’t. I will always respect our military but our government not so much. Declare war anihilate that entire piece of the world or stay home. This pussyfooting around has no endgame abd im tired of it


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: danny clifton] #6537417
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Im tired of wars that really ain’t. I will always respect our military but our government not so much. Declare war anihilate that entire piece of the world or stay home. This pussyfooting around has no endgame abd im tired of it

I'd agree with that...the U.S. (politicians) hasn't fought a war to win since WWII.

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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6537774
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Looks like the US pulled non essential employees out over night due to credible threats

Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6537796
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Must not be to credible or to dangerous if war hasn’t been declared


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: J Staton] #6537827
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Originally Posted by J Staton
The greatest threat to the Republic comes from within. When government entities are used to punish political opponents without punishment for that violation we should all worry. This type of decay will lead to our demise whether by Islamist , communist, etc.



Nailed it


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6537840
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if we go all out in a war with iran......it could become quite complicated.....iran is allies with Russia...............is that why pompeo has plans to meet with putin??

with all that's goin on right now......I would not want to be the president


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: foxkidd44] #6537856
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Originally Posted by foxkidd44
if we go all out in a war with iran......it could become quite complicated.....iran is allies with Russia...............is that why pompeo has plans to meet with putin??

with all that's goin on right now......I would not want to be the president


I would never want to be president. And I fear what any person would do with the power if they truly wanted to be president.

Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6537862
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Why don't we just arm the Israelis to the teeth and let them handle Iran? Russia would retaliate by doing the same for Iran. Iran has made it clear that all of Israel should be wiped on the face of the earth. Israel would be launching a pre-emptive strike against Iran given the right warfare technology since it's inevitable anyway.


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6537865
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My own opinion, and keep in mind this is coming from someone who has been employed in the defense industry since 1987, so I get to work with all kinds of people: We will go into Iran once the Saudi's TELL us to do so.

It bothers me to no end how our Nation bows down to the Saudi's and does everything they say.
It bothers me to no end how our President[s] continue to always bow down to these people as well...... as if the Saudi's rule the world.

In early 2003, I decided to see how severe I could break my right ankle - actually I took a very bad fall on snow cover ice outside of the RAH-66 Simulator - so I was laid up for about 6 weeks, to where I spent lots of time watching television, and saw the shift go from Afghanistan to Iraq.

It never made any sense to me why this occurred.

Later on, I worked with vets who were in Afghanistan, and these people were completely animated when telling me how they had Bin Laden more or less inside Tora Bora [I might be wrong on that places name...] and all of a sudden, the call came to pack up and leave and go to Iran, and believe me when I tell you that these U.S. soldiers felt like they had been suddenly lied to and cheated.

Why did this happen ??

Because the Saudi's gave the order to do so.

Funny how that works, eh ??

Tell you what, if it were up to me - every member of congress would be someone who has spent 4 years in the military.
Every president would be someone who has spent at least 4 years in the military - and by that i mean active - not reserves.

I am so sick and tired of these politicians bowing and scraping in front of the Saudis and at the same time sending our brave young men and women into these so called conflicts, where they come back either physically or mentally scarred, or in a box with a US flag over it.... for what ....

So, that's my response to this serious question, and I apologize if I sound angry - but it's because I am.

Maybe if our politicians from the top down actually had to serve, they would think differently about moving our military around as if this were a game of chess, but then again... to them that's all it probably is.


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6537867
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Trapper 7, the Israelis in fact have an outstanding well armed well trained military, some in fact say they are the best - but the problem is the U.S. does not allow or want Israel to fight their own battles, and I wish I knew the answer why... because they are certainly very capable of defending themselves.

That part of the world - the entire Middle East - all they understand is fighting.
It's all they have ever done and lived though for 1000s of years, going way back into biblical times.

Nothing/No one is ever going to change that, and if you try - then you are the enemy.


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Big George W] #6537871
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Originally Posted by Big George W
Trapper 7, the Israelis in fact have an outstanding well armed well trained military, some in fact say they are the best - but the problem is the U.S. does not allow or want Israel to fight their own battles, and I wish I knew the answer why... because they are certainly very capable of defending themselves.

That part of the world - the entire Middle East - all they understand is fighting.
It's all they have ever done and lived though for 1000s of years, going way back into biblical times.

Nothing/No one is ever going to change that, and if you try - then you are the enemy.


You are so correct by saying all they understand is fighting. Their culture is so different from ours. Trying to negotiate with them will never work.

Prior to the time of Mohammed, the Jews and Muslims got along. Mohammed claimed to be a prophet and said the Jews had lied when it came to Abraham's birthright. It wasn't given to Isaac, since he wasn't the first born, but to Ishmael. Mohammed drove a deep wedge between the Jews and Muslims. That hatred of the Jews has never subsided, only festered to this day. We are seeing this Islamic hatred in our own country by Islamists who are taking government positions of power.


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Big George W] #6537910
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Originally Posted by Big George W
Trapper 7, the Israelis in fact have an outstanding well armed well trained military, some in fact say they are the best - but the problem is the U.S. does not allow or want Israel to fight their own battles, and I wish I knew the answer why... because they are certainly very capable of defending themselves.

That part of the world - the entire Middle East - all they understand is fighting.
It's all they have ever done and lived though for 1000s of years, going way back into biblical times.

Nothing/No one is ever going to change that, and if you try - then you are the enemy.

I'm not sure about that, Israel handles their conflicts pretty well on their own. They are always at war with Hamas, Syria and rebels. Once they get attacked Israel usually does a good job of retaliation hitting main targets first then broadening their targets. The IDF is really transparent when it comes to war and they don't back down. If you're on Facebook the IDF has their own page when attacks happen they will show raw footage of both offense and defense

Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6537976
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I’ve been waiting for years to turn on the news expecting to see that Israel has taken the fight to Iran as a matter of self-preservation.

Forgiveness and turning the other cheek goes out the window when it comes to annihilation. When a country openly says what Iran has said while secretly developing nuclear weapons, there really is no choice but war. Israel is being backed into a corner, and, if Iran continues on the path of preaching total destruction while continuing nuclear weapon development, there is no other option for them to survive as a people. Then again, what’s new? They’ve been hated for simply living since ancient times. As M.T. said, “history does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme” and I don’t blame them for saying they’ve had enough.

Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6537980
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And can you believe the UN sides with the radicals who say they want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth?


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6538024
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Aix me too. I think the only reason Israel doesn't is because Russia backs them and most other mid east countries.

Absolutely Trapper7. The UN condemns Israel when they defend themselves especially with the Obama Admin.

Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6538036
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Point one, who says we aren't hitting Iran where it hurts with embargoes, trade restrictions and other covert economic issues. If you want to grab em by the short hairs cut off the rich elites money flow.

Point two, major conflicts with guerrilla forces never pan out well. Iraq, Afghanistan (U.S. and Russia), Viet Nam and the Philippines in the Spanish American War are all examples of the misuse of troops in these types of conflicts. Just a bad idea and never really winnable.

Point three, Impacts to the global economy, global oil prices and other far reaching impact would not facilitate a war being a good idea there.

In other words a flat out "let's kill em all 'merica yeah" is as foolish as the hippies who never think force is an option.


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I will not say what I think should of been done because my post normal get remove before it make it on for anyone to see. So I will not say if this make to be posted


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6538043
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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6538059
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Will be up to them.o n how fast we destroy them. They are the ones directly behind terrorist attacks across glob that have killed untold innocence and soldiers lives.

They arnt messing with another community organizer/traitor. Trump will pull the trigger. It will be over quickly as long as Russia stays out of it?

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ya don't say. grin

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