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How long before we pound iran? #6536973
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Personally I think before 6/15 we will hit them a good blow, I really have mixed feeling about it but they need a whoopin.

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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6536983
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Hopefully never...

Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6536986
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Kumbaya....


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6536987
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I Agree Marty , its unfortunate but they leave us no choice . Boy dictator is pushing his luck as well


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: AntiGov] #6536992
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
I Agree Marty , its unfortunate but they leave us no choice . Boy dictator is pushing his luck as well


They never got paid for taking over the US Embassy and keeping the US citizens hostage for far too long.


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6536993
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Yep..They can't even pound the southern border..let alone anywhere else..LOL


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6536996
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What we will try to do is provoke them into attacking us or our allies and then completely rework their government after we annihilate the current government. Afterwards we will be close.

Keith

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Yep..The USA needs to take care of the problem at the border before they create a new one...The illegals that are here in the USA and the ones that are coming are doing more damage to the USA than any Iranian has done

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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6537000
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The only time in last 35 or so years that i havnt wondered the same thing was the obama years

Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6537001
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They already attacked us/our allies.....their terror proxy army has been doing that for years, killed many US soldiers.


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6537009
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Originally Posted by Marty
They already attacked us/our allies.....their terror proxy army has been doing that for years, killed many US soldiers.


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6537011
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Yep..Help me out here when did they kill US soldiers?


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6537014
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Yep..How does Lebanon = Iran?


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6537016
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Sure, let's go off a-meddling in the Middle East again.

I guess some people learned nothing from our debacle in Iraq.

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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6537017
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Wonder how many of those U.S. dollars the last administration sent them will be used to kill U.S. soldiers if a conflict breaks out?

Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: J Staton] #6537025
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Wonder how many of those U.S. dollars the last administration sent them will be used to kill U.S. soldiers if a conflict breaks out?


All of the money that obama gave Iran will be used against us.

Keith

Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6537027
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Vice President Dick Cheney and the Pentagon once explained that the United States could ruin Iran, but the problem was that Iran has limited targets and the military would run out of them in 36 to 48 hours. America can thresh Iran, but the grains of the communist regime which British MI6 installed after the Shah remains, ready to sprout in their diaspora of agents which are the soft targets the United States can not deal with.
Just remember the words of Richard Clark, the William Clinton appointee, in stating that the downing of Flight TWA 800 was covered up, because Clinton did not war with Iran. Another Clark, in General Wesley Clark of the Clinton era, stated there was a list of Mideast states which would fall. There are two remaining in Iran and Lebanon. They are both targeted now.
You have been led here, as America is always led to places. Actions have consequences. History shows us that Iran attempted in the last year of George W. Bush to sell weapon's grade uranium to the narco FARC of Columbia and there are now millions of Muslims inside the United States. American is adept at plowing ground in war. What are the coming consequences of the seeds which sprout.

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I never liked those religious towel headed creeps ever since they took the Americans hostage back in the 70's.They are behind a lot of upheaval in the Middle east,and constantly work against western intrests just like Russia does.They are long overdue for a whuppin-preferably before they obtain nukes,for Israel's sake.Iran has sworn to annihilate Israel repeatedly and will never stop until either they or Israel is a smoking hole in the dessert.

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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: KeithC] #6537039
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by J Staton
Wonder how many of those U.S. dollars the last administration sent them will be used to kill U.S. soldiers if a conflict breaks out?


All of the money that obama gave Iran will be is being used against us.

Keith


Made a slight correction, hope you do not mind.


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Boco] #6537042
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Originally Posted by Boco
I never liked those religious towel headed creeps ever since they took the Americans hostage back in the 70's.They are behind a lot of upheaval in the Middle east,and constantly work against western intrests just like Russia does.They are long overdue for a whuppin-preferably before they obtain nukes,for Israel's sake.Iran has sworn to annihilate Israel repeatedly and will never stop until either they or Israel is a smoking hole in the dessert.


Awesome!


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How many lives were lost and dollars spent on the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya? After those debacles you guys want to giver er another go in Iran? Insanity.

Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Chamacat] #6537060
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Originally Posted by Chamacat
Yep..How does Lebanon = Iran?


Only the willfully ignorant can't see that hezbollah is a puppet organization run by Iran.

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We never invaded Libya, Trump will not invade iran he will bomb them into the stone age.


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If Iran keeps it up there will be an air raid before you know it. Another moab possibly?

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Originally Posted by Marty
We never invaded Libya, Trump will not invade iran he will bomb them into the stone age.

And now they are selling slaves in Libya and allowing Africans to mass migrate through Libya to Europe, epic failure.

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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
allowing Africans to mass migrate through Libya to Europe, epic failure.


That was the obama/eu plan from the get go, but obama is not in charge anymore.


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Originally Posted by star flakes
Vice President Dick Cheney and the Pentagon once explained that the United States could ruin Iran, but the problem was that Iran has limited targets and the military would run out of them in 36 to 48 hours.


I thought Iran had a good army? Arenít they allies with Russia and China?


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Originally Posted by Marty
Originally Posted by Boco
I never liked those religious towel headed creeps ever since they took the Americans hostage back in the 70's.They are behind a lot of upheaval in the Middle east,and constantly work against western intrests just like Russia does.They are long overdue for a whuppin-preferably before they obtain nukes,for Israel's sake.Iran has sworn to annihilate Israel repeatedly and will never stop until either they or Israel is a smoking hole in the dessert.


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Commercial ships got 5-10' holes in them somehow today, in Persian gulf, I think

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Originally Posted by Chamacat
Yep..How does Lebanon = Iran?


I remember that bomb, so many Marines killed, I wasn't happy, seemed the guilty got away, they said Iran did it

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There are a lot of Iranians, who are modern and nonreligious, who don't like the Iranian government, especially the around 7 million Iranian Kurds. Kurds make up around 10% of the Iranian population and for the most part, the Kurds like the US. There are around 21 million more Kurds, who live near the Iranian border, who also for the most part like the US. Strategic bombing of Iran's radical Muslim government and military and well arming the 28 million Kurds in the area, plus other modern Iranians, should lead to a pro US government in Iran.

Keith

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Originally Posted by Chamacat
Yep..The USA needs to take care of the problem at the border before they create a new one...The illegals that are here in the USA and the ones that are coming are doing more damage to the USA than any Iranian has done



The problem at the border has been going on since the 1890's so what makes anyone think it is going to be fixed now ?

And who is financing all those people coming from South and Central America to the US ? Maybe Iran, Russia, China, Drug Cartels as well as others.

The big bad government is going to solve it and they are busing catch and release illegals from California and letting them loose in Texas every stinking day.
What a joke !


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March of 2003 our military invaded Iraq. Should have started by destroying Mecca in Saudi Arabia. I thought in 2016 when it came out that the money for 9/11 came from the Saud family that maybe at last we would sort out Saudi Arabia. Nope.

Now we are being told, once again, look there, there is your enemy. Haven't yet heard that cities will be burned, crops will be burned, livestock will be shot, all infrastructure from wells to reservoirs to power plants will be destroyed. So I'm guessing our young men and women will be told, once again, to sort good guys from bad guys and many will die for that policy and many more will be wounded because of it.

Our deficit is a monster eating up savings with inflation but lets string out another conflict. Move more money from the pocket of the guy running the crusher at the local rock quarry into the pocket of the guy already so wealthy he cant spend it all.



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Originally Posted by James
Sure, let's go off a-meddling in the Middle East again.

I guess some people learned nothing from our debacle in Iraq.

Jim


Apparently they didn't learn from the debacle in Lebanon. The Military Industrial Complex loves all these hawks. crazy

"On June 6, 1982, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) initiated Operation "Peace for Galilee" and invaded Lebanon in order to create a 40 km buffer zone between the PLO and Syrian forces in Lebanon and Israel.[17][18][19] The Israeli invasion was tacitly approved by the U.S., and the U.S. provided overt military support to Israel in the form of arms and materiel.[20] The U.S.' support for Israel's invasion of Lebanon taken in conjunction with U.S. support for Lebanese President Bachir Gemayel and the Lebanese Armed Forces (LAF) alienated many.[21] Bachir Gemayel was the legally elected president, but he was a partisan Maronite Christian and covert associate of Israel.[22] These factors served to disaffect the Lebanese Muslim and Druze communities. This animosity was made worse by the Phalangist, a right-wing, largely Maronite-Lebanese militia force closely associated with President Gemayel. The Phalangist militia was responsible for multiple, bloody attacks against the Muslim and Druze communities in Lebanon and for the 1982 atrocities committed in the PLO refugee camps, Sabra and Shatila by Lebanese Forces (LF), while the IDF provided security and looked on"


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Islam is a mental illness. Right now they're picking us off daily in our own country, while we sit on our hands. If we do nothing they will own us, as is presently happening while we sit on our hands.


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I bet there are more( by a lot) of U.S. citizens killing themselves every day in the U.S than Muslims killing people in the U.S every day.


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Originally Posted by Chamacat
Yep..The USA needs to take care of the problem at the border before they create a new one...The illegals that are here in the USA and the ones that are coming are doing more damage to the USA than any Iranian has done


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Unfortunately, that area of the globe has been a problem for 2000 years. I'm betting it will remain as such for quite some time.

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By the way, right after obama gave them the bribe, to try and buy Iran's friendship and cooperation, religious Iranians still chanted "death to America".



I say death to the extremist government of Iran. If they ever get in the position to use nuclear weapons on us, they very likely will, even though they know we will destroy them, because that is what they believe their god wants.

Keith

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I say pound their donkeys often and hard.

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The border problem is becoming more problematic and a danger. Saw a post of an American school that was all Islamic teachers and 100% Islamic students shouting death to American non-believers.

A friend of mine who is from England visits Manchester annually. He said there are areas in Manchester his relatives tell him are no longer safe to go since they are populated by Islamic radicals. He can't believe what is happening to his former country. He sees it happening in America.


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The greatest threat to the Republic comes from within. When government entities are used to punish political opponents without punishment for that violation we should all worry. This type of decay will lead to our demise whether by Islamist , communist, etc.

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All those years fighting external communist didn't prevent the internal ones from pushing this country towards the utopia. What should we nationalize this week? frown


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Our country has removed God and His hedge of protection has been breached as evidenced on 9/11. We are due for judgement. We now have Islamic leaders who folks voted for in our US govt. Those of us who have the beginning of wisdom - have a reverential fear of the Lord. We stand back and continue to pray for Godly leadership and God's outstretched arm to guide our country. Though we have the power to annihilate any country within a mere moment - does not mean we will strike first. Maybe the question should be examined as - when will we get pounded again? Has the proud USA turned back to the Lord after 9/11? What does our country tolerate in the way of sin?

Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: James] #6537324
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Originally Posted by James
Sure, let's go off a-meddling in the Middle East again.

I guess some people learned nothing from our debacle in Iraq.

Jim


I agree with you on Iraq. Saddam was the buffer that kept Iran in check. Because he was a heartless butcher with his people was too bad for them. But, not our problem.


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I do not cherish the thought of sending our men and women to die in strange lands. I do understand that sometimes it is necessary.

Those times should require a goal, though. A real, obtainable, MEANINGFUL goal. Deposing a ruler/regime without a concrete follow up plan is not one of those goals. That just allows the next nut job, or chaos, to enter the picture. If we destabilize the middle East and just leave, ISIS and its kind will become stronger. If we stay, more of our troops die.

We have to fight to win. Big guns, Big bombs. People will die, its war. Its ugly, brutal, and nasty.

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Originally Posted by pcr2
trapper7,was that philly?


Yes, I think it was. Did you see it too?


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Originally Posted by k snow
I do not cherish the thought of sending our men and women to die in strange lands. I do understand that sometimes it is necessary.

Those times should require a goal, though. A real, obtainable, MEANINGFUL goal. Deposing a ruler/regime without a concrete follow up plan is not one of those goals. That just allows the next nut job, or chaos, to enter the picture. If we destabilize the middle East and just leave, ISIS and its kind will become stronger. If we stay, more of our troops die.

We have to fight to win. Big guns, Big bombs. People will die, its war. Its ugly, brutal, and nasty.

X2, I agree, if were gonna do it, go hard and fast. However, I believe we should get our border fixed before anything else. Mexico needs a spanking as well.


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Originally Posted by pcr2
oh yeah,embarrased to have that city as part of my state.


I think a lot of rural people in a lot of states are embarrassed of the big cities. I'd give up Madison and Milwaukee to Illinois in a heartbeat.

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Originally Posted by J Staton
The greatest threat to the Republic comes from within. When government entities are used to punish political opponents without punishment for that violation we should all worry. This type of decay will lead to our demise whether by Islamist , communist, etc.


Reminds me of a comment I made a few years ago on Tman. About 2,000 years ago, the Roman Empire was the most powerful entity in the world, just like we are now. Everyone back then feared them and felt they could never be conquered. They were right. But, if you study the fall of the Roman Empire; they imploded because of internal and political corruption within much like we are beginning to see in America now.

I feel sorry for our children and grandchildren because they will live their lives in a much worse America than we did. Our generation caused it because we failed to stand up against such things as political correctness, Islamic influence in Congress, loose immigration policies; migrants who have no intention of assimilating as Americans, failure by the main stream media to report or see what's happening in Europe, and corruption among political leaders.

The European main stream is playing along with the leftist governments of Europe and the European Union to the fiction that all immigrants are nice people to be trusted and welcomed with open arms. In the last two years there has been a pronounced spike in rape cases in Norway. A politically correct police chief in Norway excused the migrants by stating that people from some parts of the world have never seen a girl in a miniskirt, only in a burka. So, rape is OK because the rapists are from a different culture? This is where the foolishness of political correctness leads.


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Originally Posted by k snow
Originally Posted by pcr2
oh yeah,embarrased to have that city as part of my state.


I think a lot of rural people in a lot of states are embarrassed of the big cities. I'd give up Madison and Milwaukee to Illinois in a heartbeat.


MN would be a better state too if it weren't for left-leaning Twin Cities.


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I bet there are more( by a lot) of U.S. citizens killing themselves every day in the U.S than Muslims killing people in the U.S every day.

That's nice of you to say, but Muslims have taken credit for nearly every terrorist attack that has happened on American soil. I still don't like'em.


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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Originally Posted by Dirt
I bet there are more( by a lot) of U.S. citizens killing themselves every day in the U.S than Muslims killing people in the U.S every day.

That's nice of you to say, but Muslims have taken credit for nearly every terrorist attack that has happened on American soil. I still don't like'em.


I bet percentage-wise there aren't as many US citizens killing each other every day as Islamists killing people in the US.


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Originally Posted by k snow
Originally Posted by pcr2
oh yeah,embarrased to have that city as part of my state.


I think a lot of rural people in a lot of states are embarrassed of the big cities. I'd give up Madison and Milwaukee to Illinois in a heartbeat.



I'd second that.

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Im tired of wars that really ainít. I will always respect our military but our government not so much. Declare war anihilate that entire piece of the world or stay home. This pussyfooting around has no endgame abd im tired of it


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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Im tired of wars that really ain’t. I will always respect our military but our government not so much. Declare war anihilate that entire piece of the world or stay home. This pussyfooting around has no endgame abd im tired of it

I'd agree with that...the U.S. (politicians) hasn't fought a war to win since WWII.

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Looks like the US pulled non essential employees out over night due to credible threats

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Must not be to credible or to dangerous if war hasnít been declared


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The greatest threat to the Republic comes from within. When government entities are used to punish political opponents without punishment for that violation we should all worry. This type of decay will lead to our demise whether by Islamist , communist, etc.



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if we go all out in a war with iran......it could become quite complicated.....iran is allies with Russia...............is that why pompeo has plans to meet with putin??

with all that's goin on right now......I would not want to be the president


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Originally Posted by foxkidd44
if we go all out in a war with iran......it could become quite complicated.....iran is allies with Russia...............is that why pompeo has plans to meet with putin??

with all that's goin on right now......I would not want to be the president


I would never want to be president. And I fear what any person would do with the power if they truly wanted to be president.

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Why don't we just arm the Israelis to the teeth and let them handle Iran? Russia would retaliate by doing the same for Iran. Iran has made it clear that all of Israel should be wiped on the face of the earth. Israel would be launching a pre-emptive strike against Iran given the right warfare technology since it's inevitable anyway.


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My own opinion, and keep in mind this is coming from someone who has been employed in the defense industry since 1987, so I get to work with all kinds of people: We will go into Iran once the Saudi's TELL us to do so.

It bothers me to no end how our Nation bows down to the Saudi's and does everything they say.
It bothers me to no end how our President[s] continue to always bow down to these people as well...... as if the Saudi's rule the world.

In early 2003, I decided to see how severe I could break my right ankle - actually I took a very bad fall on snow cover ice outside of the RAH-66 Simulator - so I was laid up for about 6 weeks, to where I spent lots of time watching television, and saw the shift go from Afghanistan to Iraq.

It never made any sense to me why this occurred.

Later on, I worked with vets who were in Afghanistan, and these people were completely animated when telling me how they had Bin Laden more or less inside Tora Bora [I might be wrong on that places name...] and all of a sudden, the call came to pack up and leave and go to Iran, and believe me when I tell you that these U.S. soldiers felt like they had been suddenly lied to and cheated.

Why did this happen ??

Because the Saudi's gave the order to do so.

Funny how that works, eh ??

Tell you what, if it were up to me - every member of congress would be someone who has spent 4 years in the military.
Every president would be someone who has spent at least 4 years in the military - and by that i mean active - not reserves.

I am so sick and tired of these politicians bowing and scraping in front of the Saudis and at the same time sending our brave young men and women into these so called conflicts, where they come back either physically or mentally scarred, or in a box with a US flag over it.... for what ....

So, that's my response to this serious question, and I apologize if I sound angry - but it's because I am.

Maybe if our politicians from the top down actually had to serve, they would think differently about moving our military around as if this were a game of chess, but then again... to them that's all it probably is.


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Trapper 7, the Israelis in fact have an outstanding well armed well trained military, some in fact say they are the best - but the problem is the U.S. does not allow or want Israel to fight their own battles, and I wish I knew the answer why... because they are certainly very capable of defending themselves.

That part of the world - the entire Middle East - all they understand is fighting.
It's all they have ever done and lived though for 1000s of years, going way back into biblical times.

Nothing/No one is ever going to change that, and if you try - then you are the enemy.


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Originally Posted by Big George W
Trapper 7, the Israelis in fact have an outstanding well armed well trained military, some in fact say they are the best - but the problem is the U.S. does not allow or want Israel to fight their own battles, and I wish I knew the answer why... because they are certainly very capable of defending themselves.

That part of the world - the entire Middle East - all they understand is fighting.
It's all they have ever done and lived though for 1000s of years, going way back into biblical times.

Nothing/No one is ever going to change that, and if you try - then you are the enemy.


You are so correct by saying all they understand is fighting. Their culture is so different from ours. Trying to negotiate with them will never work.

Prior to the time of Mohammed, the Jews and Muslims got along. Mohammed claimed to be a prophet and said the Jews had lied when it came to Abraham's birthright. It wasn't given to Isaac, since he wasn't the first born, but to Ishmael. Mohammed drove a deep wedge between the Jews and Muslims. That hatred of the Jews has never subsided, only festered to this day. We are seeing this Islamic hatred in our own country by Islamists who are taking government positions of power.


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Originally Posted by Big George W
Trapper 7, the Israelis in fact have an outstanding well armed well trained military, some in fact say they are the best - but the problem is the U.S. does not allow or want Israel to fight their own battles, and I wish I knew the answer why... because they are certainly very capable of defending themselves.

That part of the world - the entire Middle East - all they understand is fighting.
It's all they have ever done and lived though for 1000s of years, going way back into biblical times.

Nothing/No one is ever going to change that, and if you try - then you are the enemy.

I'm not sure about that, Israel handles their conflicts pretty well on their own. They are always at war with Hamas, Syria and rebels. Once they get attacked Israel usually does a good job of retaliation hitting main targets first then broadening their targets. The IDF is really transparent when it comes to war and they don't back down. If you're on Facebook the IDF has their own page when attacks happen they will show raw footage of both offense and defense

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Iíve been waiting for years to turn on the news expecting to see that Israel has taken the fight to Iran as a matter of self-preservation.

Forgiveness and turning the other cheek goes out the window when it comes to annihilation. When a country openly says what Iran has said while secretly developing nuclear weapons, there really is no choice but war. Israel is being backed into a corner, and, if Iran continues on the path of preaching total destruction while continuing nuclear weapon development, there is no other option for them to survive as a people. Then again, whatís new? Theyíve been hated for simply living since ancient times. As M.T. said, ďhistory does not repeat itself, but it does rhymeĒ and I donít blame them for saying theyíve had enough.


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And can you believe the UN sides with the radicals who say they want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth?


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Aix me too. I think the only reason Israel doesn't is because Russia backs them and most other mid east countries.

Absolutely Trapper7. The UN condemns Israel when they defend themselves especially with the Obama Admin.

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Point one, who says we aren't hitting Iran where it hurts with embargoes, trade restrictions and other covert economic issues. If you want to grab em by the short hairs cut off the rich elites money flow.

Point two, major conflicts with guerrilla forces never pan out well. Iraq, Afghanistan (U.S. and Russia), Viet Nam and the Philippines in the Spanish American War are all examples of the misuse of troops in these types of conflicts. Just a bad idea and never really winnable.

Point three, Impacts to the global economy, global oil prices and other far reaching impact would not facilitate a war being a good idea there.

In other words a flat out "let's kill em all 'merica yeah" is as foolish as the hippies who never think force is an option.


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Will be up to them.o n how fast we destroy them. They are the ones directly behind terrorist attacks across glob that have killed untold innocence and soldiers lives.

They arnt messing with another community organizer/traitor. Trump will pull the trigger. It will be over quickly as long as Russia stays out of it?

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ya don't say. grin

Let me say I was there the first time we where there in 1980


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Israel is 250 miles N\S and 70 miles E/W.
A few Tsar Bomba nukes by Russia would obliterate the entire country and everything in it(including all the Palestinians),with a bunch of collateral damage in neighboring countries.

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Originally Posted by Boco
Israel is 250 miles N\S and 70 miles E/W.
A few Tsar Bomba nukes by Russia would obliterate the entire country and everything in it(including all the Palestinians),with a bunch of collateral damage in neighboring countries.

And here all this time I thought it was Iran that had a problem with Israel.


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Remember back in the old days when Soldiers risked their lives fighting for something material? It used to be you went to war and you got a share of the booty, now you fight for medals and and the abstract "democracy" for a foreign people, why?

If we are going to have a war lets invade Mexico and central America, push the entire population of those countries south of Panama and give the ones who fought the lands acquired, quit making our soldiers fight for nothing other than the enrichment of the mega wealthy. If we are going to invade Iran lets actually take the oil and wealth this time instead of just wasting our blood and money.

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Originally Posted by Boco
Israel is 250 miles N\S and 70 miles E/W.
A few Tsar Bomba nukes by Russia would obliterate the entire country and everything in it(including all the Palestinians),with a bunch of collateral damage in neighboring countries.


Furthermore, Israel has hardly any natural resources, no good ports, no lakes or big rivers for power production, etc. Yet, the whole world is focused on this tiny country and it is on the news every night. Why?

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I agree with Danny. No sense in doing anything over there unless we are 100% committed to utterly destroying the enemy and their infrastructure. Destroy the threat for at least 50 years or more.

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If there is going to be a war, let it be one. Not (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) footing around on one leg with one hand tied behind the back. Have at it for a week and put them back into the stone age. Job done.


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Originally Posted by Chancey
Originally Posted by Boco
Israel is 250 miles N\S and 70 miles E/W.
A few Tsar Bomba nukes by Russia would obliterate the entire country and everything in it(including all the Palestinians),with a bunch of collateral damage in neighboring countries.


Furthermore, Israel has hardly any natural resources, no good ports, no lakes or big rivers for power production, etc. Yet, the whole world is focused on this tiny country and it is on the news every night. Why?

This tiny strip of land is the only land that is The Promise Land. The land flowing with milk and honey.
Russia and China will be the 2 large enemy forces fighting in the Valley of Migedo (Armageddon). Thankfully we know who wins.

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How could you know that?

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Originally Posted by Chancey
Originally Posted by Boco
Israel is 250 miles N\S and 70 miles E/W.
A few Tsar Bomba nukes by Russia would obliterate the entire country and everything in it(including all the Palestinians),with a bunch of collateral damage in neighboring countries.


Furthermore, Israel has hardly any natural resources, no good ports, no lakes or big rivers for power production, etc. Yet, the whole world is focused on this tiny country and it is on the news every night. Why?

might have something to do with our creator saying they are his chosen people... amongst there infliction and to not believe the mesiah has already been here!


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I think it is clear that the Power behind all world dictators seems to have an interest regarding the going-ons Israel.

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Imagine convincing a people that you are the chosen ones so that those other people go and fight your wars for you, really is brilliant...

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The Middle East is like a large pot of water with a fire under it. The best you can ever hope to do is control the heat under it to prevent it from boiling over and blow the lid off.
There will never be peace there no matter how many of them get killed. We need to stay out of it completely. We always make things worse even when we have the best of intentions.
As far as the Saudis are concerned (or any other oil producing country) we do not need one drop of their oil. We have so much oil we are a net exporter of it.
Whenever OPEC slows production, the price of oil goes up. Once that happens, it creates an oil production boom for oil production via fracking in the US.

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Originally Posted by Boco
How could you know that?

Gog and Magog as mentioned in the book of Daniel.

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OK,lol.Magog is in Quebec.

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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Imagine convincing a people that you are the chosen ones so that those other people go and fight your wars for you, really is brilliant...


I guess history can become legend, and legend become myth, and myth become false with enough time.

I can assure you that there are people of Jewish decent that KNOW their God (YHVH) is the one true God Almighty. He made it very clear during the exodus in Egypt. He also made a covenant with Abraham regarding his descendants.

Of course, you must believe that kind of non-sense though in order to go along with that line of thinking.

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The only problem I see with pounding iran is that it will give an edge to the saudis....maybe hit riyadh at the same time?

smile


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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
...quit making our soldiers fight for nothing other than the enrichment of the mega wealthy. If we are going to invade Iran lets actually take the oil and wealth...


Contradictory?

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Originally Posted by Marty
The only problem I see with pounding iran is that it will give an edge to the saudis....maybe hit riyadh at the same time?

smile


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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Originally Posted by J Staton
The greatest threat to the Republic comes from within. When government entities are used to punish political opponents without punishment for that violation we should all worry. This type of decay will lead to our demise whether by Islamist , communist, etc.


Reminds me of a comment I made a few years ago on Tman. About 2,000 years ago, the Roman Empire was the most powerful entity in the world, just like we are now. Everyone back then feared them and felt they could never be conquered. They were right. But, if you study the fall of the Roman Empire; they imploded because of internal and political corruption within much like we are beginning to see in America now.

I feel sorry for our children and grandchildren because they will live their lives in a much worse America than we did. Our generation caused it because we failed to stand up against such things as political correctness, Islamic influence in Congress, loose immigration policies; migrants who have no intention of assimilating as Americans, failure by the main stream media to report or see what's happening in Europe, and corruption among political leaders.

The European main stream is playing along with the leftist governments of Europe and the European Union to the fiction that all immigrants are nice people to be trusted and welcomed with open arms. In the last two years there has been a pronounced spike in rape cases in Norway. A politically correct police chief in Norway excused the migrants by stating that people from some parts of the world have never seen a girl in a miniskirt, only in a burka. So, rape is OK because the rapists are from a different culture? This is where the foolishness of political correctness leads.




I would think crucifying the Son of God didn't bode well for their future. lol


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Originally Posted by Dirt



Use these. They are really expensive. Good job creator.

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In a word...MOAB. A fraction of the cost and a real attention getter. I wonder if Trump didn't order up some more.

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Does Donald watch GOT? lol


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"The Air Force has said the MOAB has a unit price of $170,000."

Way too cheap. Very few jobs created and not much profit. frown

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"Even with the price of the bomb itself included, a JDAM guidance system costs barely $30,000, whereas the value of the target it destroys with pinpoint accuracy may be over a hundred times that amount (or more). JDAM thus delivers an unusually favorable "cost-exchange" ratio to U.S. warfighters, compared with weapons like cruise missiles that might cost the better part of a million dollars. And because glide weapons can be released miles from their targets, pilots are safer."

Boeing makes these. They probably could use a new order with the all the problems with their plane these days.


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dump plane loads of pork on them.benefits the farmers and would drive them nuts. wink


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Originally Posted by Dirt
"The Air Force has said the MOAB has a unit price of $170,000."

Way too cheap. Very few jobs created and not much profit. frown

The moab shines bright profits when used. We saw how the world reacted when we recently used one against the ISIS. I say if it comes down to it light a few off and everyone will know we aren't messing around

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Getting involved in the middle east is like stomping on a big pile of stinking shat.It spreads all over and a lot sticks to your boot.
If you have a plan to deal with the shat spread and the shat on your boot,have at er.

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Originally Posted by Boco
Getting involved in the middle east is like stomping on a big pile of stinking shat.It spreads all over and a lot sticks to your boot.
If you have a plan to deal with the shat spread and the shat on your boot,have at er.

Best analogy I've read on here.

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The problem is that if Iran does get nuclear weapons they will likely use them and they will at least use them to threaten the US and other countries to get what they want. Sooner or later we will have to kill large numbers of Iranians, to help Iranians that are more like us and who who feel more favorable towards us, to gain control of Iran. We should kill the bad Iranians before they have a chance to kill us too.

Keith

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Originally Posted by KeithC
The problem is that if Iran does get nuclear weapons they will likely use them and they will at least use them to threaten the US and other countries to get what they want. Sooner or later we will have to kill large numbers of Iranians, to help Iranians that are more like us and who who feel more favorable towards us, to gain control of Iran. We should kill the bad Iranians before they have a chance to kill us too.

Keith


Everything you said is speculation. How can you justify a war with speculation?

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Originally Posted by KeithC
The problem is that if Iran does get nuclear weapons they will likely use them and they will at least use them to threaten the US and other countries to get what they want. Sooner or later we will have to kill large numbers of Iranians, to help Iranians that are more like us and who who feel more favorable towards us, to gain control of Iran. We should kill the bad Iranians before they have a chance to kill us too.

Keith


Yup, many people do not realize just how evil these savages are. Some moron yesterday told me that iran would never dare attack the USA because we have nukes. When I asked him how he explains the thousands of US soldiers killed by iran and its proxies (which would not exist without iranian support) he had a blank look on his face and then said they never killed one US soldier. The more contact I have with people the more stupid I see and the amount of stupid folk in todays society is a staggering #.


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Originally Posted by Sprung&Rusty
Originally Posted by KeithC
The problem is that if Iran does get nuclear weapons they will likely use them and they will at least use them to threaten the US and other countries to get what they want. Sooner or later we will have to kill large numbers of Iranians, to help Iranians that are more like us and who who feel more favorable towards us, to gain control of Iran. We should kill the bad Iranians before they have a chance to kill us too.

Keith


Everything you said is speculation. How can you justify a war with speculation?


All wars are started by someone speculating that starting a war is in their countries best interest. Are you saying that you can never justify starting a war?

The Iranian government is the largest national sponsor of terrorism in the world. Iran sponsors terrorism against the US. Iran sponsors terrorism against US allies.

Iran has been very upfront about saying they will use nuclear weapons on us, when they get them. Millions of Iranians, including their entire current government, exultantly chant death to America. I see no worthwhile advantage in waiting until they kill huge numbers of Americans and American allies, with nuclear weapons they say they will use, over preventing them from getting nuclear weapons and helping a pro US, Iranian government take power.

Keith

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Of course Iran wants Nukes. Guaranteed freedom from imperialism. Like our buddies Israel.


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Speculation...... laugh

Someone stands in front of you holding a gun and says death to you.....how could you justify doing anything to that person until they actually pull the trigger and kill you?


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Lol x2 Marty.

It's not IF Iran gets nukes it's WHEN. Obama lovers can thank him and his admin for giving Iran the ability to make them & not have accountability. WHEN Iran does makes them they will make a decent supply and WILL USE THEM at every chance.

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dump plane loads of pork on them.benefits the farmers and would drive them nuts. wink


laugh Good one!


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Originally Posted by adam m
Lol x2 Marty.

It's not IF Iran gets nukes it's WHEN. Obama lovers can thank him and his admin for giving Iran the ability to make them & not have accountability. WHEN Iran does makes them they will make a decent supply and WILL USE THEM at every chance.


They don't want to give Trump 10 billion or whatever it is to build a wall. But, had no trouble giving Obama 150 billion for Iran. Bet Iran is still laughing about how they made Obama look like a chump on that deal!


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Originally Posted by Trapper7
They don't want to give Trump 10 billion or whatever it is to build a wall. But, had no trouble giving Obama 150 billion for Iran. Bet Iran is still laughing about how they made Obama look like a chump on that deal!


Democrats know that a wall will stop illegal aliens, who will likely attempt to illegally vote for democrats, who will vote for democrats if given citizenship and who will produce hordes of people, who sponge of our social programs, who will one day legally vote for democrats.

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The problem is we are afraid to kill people.
If you look back at WWII it took a lot of civilian deaths to get er done.
Suppose we smoked quite a few more folks with "conventional" weapons than we ever did with nukes.
Those were needed so to speak to have the shock to end it all.

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Lol x2 Marty.

It's not IF Iran gets nukes it's WHEN. Obama lovers can thank him and his admin for giving Iran the ability to make them & not have accountability. WHEN Iran does makes them they will make a decent supply and WILL USE THEM at every chance.


They don't want to give Trump 10 billion or whatever it is to build a wall. But, had no trouble giving Obama 150 billion for Iran. Bet Iran is still laughing about how they made Obama look like a chump on that deal!

Exactly. It has to be the worst deal ever made. I bet Obama has some financial interests in the deal or maybe he was just that dumb.

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Originally Posted by adam m
Lol x2 Marty.

It's not IF Iran gets nukes it's WHEN. Obama lovers can thank him and his admin for giving Iran the ability to make them & not have accountability. WHEN Iran does makes them they will make a decent supply and WILL USE THEM at every chance.


They will only get to use them once. Then they will no longer have nukes.


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If they were smart they would cut the rhetoric and quietly build their arsenal... Then strike without warning.

But since they would rather build nukes than develop their economy they have to rattle their sabers every so often to keep their fanatical base foaming at the mouth and overlook the fact that they can hardly afford food.

When Iranian ambassadors start quietly boarding planes to return home... That'll be the sign that the balloon is about to go up.

Mike


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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Trapper7
They don't want to give Trump 10 billion or whatever it is to build a wall. But, had no trouble giving Obama 150 billion for Iran. Bet Iran is still laughing about how they made Obama look like a chump on that deal!


Democrats know that a wall will stop illegal aliens, who will likely attempt to illegally vote for democrats, who will vote for democrats if given citizenship and who will produce hordes of people, who sponge of our social programs, who will one day legally vote for democrats.

Keith


Yes. But, are they that naÔve or just stupid in thinking normal people don't realize what their true motive when it comes to immigration is?


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I havenít read more than the first page (today) but we have to think in terms of the sons and daughters weíre going to mess up over this thing. I think we ought to be looking at the suicide rate, PTSD and all the other things that cost individuals and countries before we mess up another generation. Iím all for helping to protect allies, but being the first one in the door, for the sake of being first, has to have long discussions before itís done. Lest anyone forget, weíre still dealing with the aftermath of Vietnam with all the PTSD and agent orange issues 40 years later.


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Lol x2 Marty.

It's not IF Iran gets nukes it's WHEN. Obama lovers can thank him and his admin for giving Iran the ability to make them & not have accountability. WHEN Iran does makes them they will make a decent supply and WILL USE THEM at every chance.


They will only get to use them once. Then they will no longer have nukes.

Yup. As long as there's Trump or similar in office when that occurs. If there's another Obama type in office Iran will use them a few times before something is done

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Here's something interesting to think about. I live fairly close to KAFB & in the past 2-3 days there's been a lot of military aircraft flying in and out of KAFB especially bombers and cargo planes. A lot more than usual. Usually when there's a lot of activity flying in and out of KAFB there's a high alert.

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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Yes. But, are they that naÔve or just stupid in thinking normal people don't realize what their true motive when it comes to immigration is?


Democrat leadership knows full well that most people know that democrats want illegal immigrants to enter the US to give democrats the majority. They are just to close to that majority to worry about being stopped now. The democrats whole platform is based on bribing the poor and lazy to vote democrat by giving them stuff paid for by those who work.

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I havenít read more than the first page (today) but we have to think in terms of the sons and daughters weíre going to mess up over this thing. I think we ought to be looking at the suicide rate, PTSD and all the other things that cost individuals and countries before we mess up another generation. Iím all for helping to protect allies, but being the first one in the door, for the sake of being first, has to have long discussions before itís done. Lest anyone forget, weíre still dealing with the aftermath of Vietnam with all the PTSD and agent orange issues 40 years later.


You're ignoring the millions more sons and daughters who will be at risk if Iran develops nuclear weapons.

Iran will almost undoubtedly share any nuclear technology they develop with other rogue nations and terrorists, threatening all Americans, not just the ones sent over to prevent the disasters.

Keith

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Israel don't bomb Iran's nukes. Wink! Wink!

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By DAVID K. SHIPLER and SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMESJUNE 9, 1981"


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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Teacher
I havenít read more than the first page (today) but we have to think in terms of the sons and daughters weíre going to mess up over this thing. I think we ought to be looking at the suicide rate, PTSD and all the other things that cost individuals and countries before we mess up another generation. Iím all for helping to protect allies, but being the first one in the door, for the sake of being first, has to have long discussions before itís done. Lest anyone forget, weíre still dealing with the aftermath of Vietnam with all the PTSD and agent orange issues 40 years later.


You're ignoring the millions more sons and daughters who will be at risk if Iran develops nuclear weapons.

Iran will almost undoubtedly share any nuclear technology they develop with other rogue nations and terrorists, threatening all Americans, not just the ones sent over to prevent the disasters.

Keith


Which is why we should honor the agreement reached by the Obama administration, which has so far prevented Iran from acquiring nukes.

I wound how many of you heroes are willing to enlist to help pound Iran? Or are you talking about sending someone else to die in your place?

Jim


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It will not take very many Americans to pound Iran's current government, nuclear weapon producing infrastructure and military. We can mostly pound Iran from a very safe distance. Once we do, there are lots of Iranians who will happily and gratefully make Iran back into a modern, tolerant nation.

Keith

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Originally Posted by KeithC
It will not take very many Americans to pound Iran's current government, nuclear weapon producing infrastructure and military. We can mostly pound Iran from a very safe distance. Once we do, there are lots of Iranians who will happily and gratefully make Iran back into a modern, tolerant nation.

Keith


and if 100,000+ Iranian civilians die so what, and if ISIS types take over the ashes, who cares, we got to play with our toys and make defense contractors a few Billion, screw the cost to everyone else.

Seems like a formula for creating terrorist not safeguarding the U.S

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Originally Posted by KeithC
It will not take very many Americans to pound Iran's current government, nuclear weapon producing infrastructure and military. We can mostly pound Iran from a very safe distance. Once we do, there are lots of Iranians who will happily and gratefully make Iran back into a modern, tolerant nation.

Keith


That what Bush II and Cheney said about Iraq.

Millions of Iraqis would rush to join us...

Jim


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I wound how many of you heroes are willing to enlist to help pound Iran? Or are you talking about sending someone else to die in your place?

Jim


I served my Country and have family that currently serves. How about you Mr. Lawyer?

Oh that's right, you're a writer now. Interesting spelling of wonder...learn that in your online writing class?


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I have met a couple hundred Iranians, mostly Kurds, but probably over 50 Persians too. I used to speak some Farsi, when I was a kid and attended picnics and other events with dozens of Iranian families. I was offered an arranged marriage with an Iranian, Kurdish, princess equivalent, after I broke up with my college girlfriend. Pretty close to half of Iranians in Iran, don't like their current government and want to live a modern secular life. The US is full of Iranians, who fled after the Shah was deposed. I have never met a religious Iranian in the US. They are mostly agnostic. The US was much, much closer to Iran than Iraq.

If given our support to overthrow their brutal, fanatical Muslim government, there are lots of very good Iranians to make Iran a modern peaceful nation. Iran is very unlikely to be like Iraq, which honestly did not turn out that bad.

Keith

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Originally Posted by Teacher
I havenít read more than the first page (today) but we have to think in terms of the sons and daughters weíre going to mess up over this thing. I think we ought to be looking at the suicide rate, PTSD and all the other things that cost individuals and countries before we mess up another generation. Iím all for helping to protect allies, but being the first one in the door, for the sake of being first, has to have long discussions before itís done. Lest anyone forget, weíre still dealing with the aftermath of Vietnam with all the PTSD and agent orange issues 40 years later.


You must be Italian.


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Originally Posted by James


Which is why we should honor the agreement reached by the Obama administration, which has so far prevented Iran from acquiring nukes.

I wound how many of you heroes are willing to enlist to help pound Iran? Or are you talking about sending someone else to die in your place?

Jim


You act like our folks in uniform are a bunch of liberal wussies. Many serving are chomping at the bit to kick some (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman).

Of coarse there probably are a few that just want free college and a job. They can change genders and stay home.


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Originally Posted by KeithC
I have met a couple hundred Iranians, mostly Kurds, but probably over 50 Persians too. I used to speak some Farsi, when I was a kid and attended picnics and other events with dozens of Iranian families. I was offered an arranged marriage with an Iranian, Kurdish, princess equivalent, after I broke up with my college girlfriend. Pretty close to half of Iranians in Iran, don't like their current government and want to live a modern secular life. The US is full of Iranians, who fled after the Shah was deposed. I have never met a religious Iranian in the US. They are mostly agnostic. The US was much, much closer to Iran than Iraq.

If given our support to overthrow their brutal, fanatical Muslim government, there are lots of very good Iranians to make Iran a modern peaceful nation. Iran is very unlikely to be like Iraq, which honestly did not turn out that bad.

Keith


You clearly have more experience with Iranians that I do So your estimate of how long those people will remain pro-American, after our bombs start killing their families, is probably longer than mine.

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I will proudly take part in pounding iran, show me which button to push....


Then you can "Zap" them. wink

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Originally Posted by KeithC


If given our support to overthrow their brutal, fanatical Muslim government, there are lots of very good Iranians to make Iran a modern peaceful nation. Iran is very unlikely to be like Iraq, which honestly did not turn out that bad.

Keith


Cost of Iraq war to the U.S 2.4 trillion
460,000 dead
Tell me again how great the Iraq war was...

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Cost of Iraq war to the U.S 2.4 trillion
460,000 dead
Tell me again how great the Iraq war was...


Do nothing and be the first dead. That's a great strategy.


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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor


Cost of Iraq war to the U.S 2.4 trillion
460,000 dead
Tell me again how great the Iraq war was...


Do nothing and be the first dead. That's a great strategy.

O ya, everyday I lived in terror that the Iraqi army was going to come and carry me away.

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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by KeithC
It will not take very many Americans to pound Iran's current government, nuclear weapon producing infrastructure and military. We can mostly pound Iran from a very safe distance. Once we do, there are lots of Iranians who will happily and gratefully make Iran back into a modern, tolerant nation.

Keith


and if 100,000+ Iranian civilians die so what, and if ISIS types take over the ashes, who cares, we got to play with our toys and make defense contractors a few Billion, screw the cost to everyone else.

Seems like a formula for creating terrorist not safeguarding the U.S





Iranians want them out as well. Tried to do it themselves and were gassed!

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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Cost of Iraq war to the U.S 2.4 trillion
460,000 dead
Tell me again how great the Iraq war was...


I honestly don't care about Iraqi dead at all.

The money spent helped our economy, like US wars generally do. It also helped us greatly improve our weapons technology. The Iraq War made the US stronger and more respected. It likely greatly reduced the amount of terrorism the US experienced at home.

We lost around 4400 American personnel in Iraq. That is not good, but to put it in perspective we lost about twice the number of Americans in Chicago, every year for the same exact time period to murder.

Keith

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Wasn't it just last year we took out a couple military installations because of the humanitarian laws that were broke? Had Russia husslin to get out the way I think?

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Originally Posted by brianmall
Iranians want them out as well. Tried to do it themselves and were gassed!


Is that the incident Obama bailed on?

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They are our enemy!

We will fight them sooner or later!!!!!

I prefer sooner while we have a leader who knows how to win and before they get any stronger.

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Iranians want them out as well. Tried to do it themselves and were gassed!


Is that the incident Obama bailed on?



Maybe let happen or instigated by Obama? Trump dropped bombs and they ran back to their holes!

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It was right after Trump took office. MOAB followed by about 40 other bombs of some sort?

Different locations and for different reasons. But this Iranian tyrant gassed a bunch of his folks and Trump flattened the base or bases that gas was launched from?

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Russians were tripping all over themselves to get out the way?

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Maybe let happen or instigated by Obama?


We're on the right track.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2011/11/why_obama_betrayed_the_iranian_people.html

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I honestly don't care about Iraqi dead at all.

The money spent helped our economy, like US wars generally do. It also helped us greatly improve our weapons technology. The Iraq War made the US stronger and more respected. It likely greatly reduced the amount of terrorism the US experienced at home.

We lost around 4400 American personnel in Iraq. That is not good, but to put it in perspective we lost about twice the number of Americans in Chicago, every year for the same exact time period to murder.

Keith


"helped our economy"- yes thank you for adding 2.4 trillion in debt that the younger generation will have to pay for so that you could have a couple years of a slightly boosted economy. I graduated in 08, the economy sucked and continued to suck for quite a while, I dont see how shipping a pile of money to Iraq helped the economy at all.

"improved weapon technology"- good thing we had test dummies that you do not care about to test our weapons on.

"Made the U.S stronger and more respected"- Yikes... Tell me that was a joke.

"reduced terrorism"- Yes by taking in more refugees caused by the war I am sure it made us safer somehow. Has the level of Islamic terrorism decreased since the Iraq war? I dont think it has at all especially for the countries that took in the refugees. I really question how bombing and killing 450,000+ Iraqis made them like us more and will lead to reduced terrorism.

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Originally Posted by KeithC
I have met a couple hundred Iranians, mostly Kurds, but probably over 50 Persians too. I used to speak some Farsi, when I was a kid and attended picnics and other events with dozens of Iranian families. I was offered an arranged marriage with an Iranian, Kurdish, princess equivalent, after I broke up with my college girlfriend. Pretty close to half of Iranians in Iran, don't like their current government and want to live a modern secular life. The US is full of Iranians, who fled after the Shah was deposed. I have never met a religious Iranian in the US. They are mostly agnostic. The US was much, much closer to Iran than Iraq.

If given our support to overthrow their brutal, fanatical Muslim government, there are lots of very good Iranians to make Iran a modern peaceful nation. Iran is very unlikely to be like Iraq, which honestly did not turn out that bad.

Keith


You clearly have more experience with Iranians that I do So your estimate of how long those people will remain pro-American, after our bombs start killing their families, is probably longer than mine.

Jim


Jim large numbers of American Iranians work with our government. I suspect any attacks on Iran will be made with surgical precision against specific military and government targets. Afterwards, it is likely large numbers of the 7 million Iranian Kurds, many of the 21 million nearby Kurds and the more modern Persian population will finish off the tyrants with US air support.

The US will basically support one side of an Iranian Civil War.

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Cant see that happening.It will turn those fighting each other now into allies against the foreign aggressor.

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These are acts of desperation.

Trump is destroying our enemies with tariffs and sanctions. They are so used to just threatening to do harm to someone or something and having their every request met in full. That stopped with the election of trump. So they are playing the only cards they have left (threats and violence). Thing is though: their not play with a community organizer anymore! This Iranian tyrant will try something soon because he knows he is about to loose power (rumor is his people are about to kick him to the curb). He takes every dollar from country to support terror around the globe while his people starve. Now trump makes him look like the tiny little tyrant he is! Not a good situation. But it gonna happen one way or the other. Question is will it be our choosing of time and place or theirs?

China is next! These tariffs are killing China. They are about to implode financially.

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Originally Posted by Posco
Originally Posted by brianmall
Maybe let happen or instigated by Obama?


We're on the right track.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2011/11/why_obama_betrayed_the_iranian_people.html


Maybe

Incident I'm referring to just happened within last two years. The Iranian people have been trying to get their govt under control for a while.

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I would guess that we have a sub or 2 puttering around the Iranian coast that could put them out of business in short order with no loss of American lives.
Everyone talks about the cost of war, our military costs us regardless.
If they play their hole card which is trying to shut down the shipping canal that's it, lights out.

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Are there still a lot of US troops in Iraq?Iraq and Syria is full of shia who are Iranian proxy fighters.

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Originally Posted by brianmall
These are acts of desperation.

Trump is destroying our enemies with tariffs and sanctions.
China is next! These tariffs are killing China. They are about to implode financially.


Yup, they are being crushed by Trumps policy of America First. They are realizing that he really means business and do not know how to respond to that since they were used too the weakness (really downright stupidity) of American foreign policy under the previous presidents.


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I thought the Donald was tired of America taking care of the world? I thought America was going to take care of America? Seems nothing has changed?


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Originally Posted by Dirt
I thought the Donald was tired of America taking care of the world? I thought America was going to take care of America? Seems nothing has changed?



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I thought Trumps Tarriffs were causing American farmers to lose their land and livelihood?

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O ya, everyday I lived in terror that the Iraqi army was going to come and carry me away.


If you wait on fear to motivate you, you waited too long.


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Maybe the Hawks on this thread could out their money where their mouth is and take a flight to Armenia, organize and attack Iran. Maybe that will kick things off and you'll get the war you want.


Individual Americans took it upon themselves to travel to Spain and fight the fascists. Follow in their footsteps...

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Dirt and Boco, you're reading the front page of CNN again. When is the last time you read anything positive from mainstream media?

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Not CNN,it was Canadian news.(which is unbiased,not blindly supporting one political party over the other like Fox and Cnn in the states)
They interviewed some farmers that were going bankrupt because they couldn't sell enough since the tariffs to pay their bills.

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the more horrible you make war, the faster its over.............if we have to do , what has to be done...........total war...then do it..and be done with it......and move on. in 4 years we whipped 3 countries................we didn't jack around. America is quite capable ........and the world knows it. we just gotta take the gloves off and quit the jackin around.


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Boco/ you've got to be kidding. What news source(s) are you referring to. I know it can't be CBC

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Originally Posted by Boco
Not CNN,it was Canadian news.(which is unbiased,not blindly supporting one political party


You don't really believe that, do you?

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Boco/ you've got to be kidding. What news source(s) are you referring to. I know it can't be CBC

Beat me to it.

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CBC is Liberal but not a propaganda tool like fox or cnn.They do report the damaging news on the Trudeau govt.
I listen to Global and Ctv.
The talking heads on Fox and CNN do not qualify as news reporting.That is not news at all.That is plain propaganda.

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I thought Trumps Tarriffs were causing American farmers to lose their land and livelihood?

Dont worry corporate farms that employ migrants will make sure that America keeps production up. Its only the small and mid sized family farms going under, no one cares about them.

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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
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I thought Trumps Tarriffs were causing American farmers to lose their land and livelihood?

Dont worry corporate farms that employ migrants will make sure that America keeps production up. Its only the small and mid sized family farms going under, no one cares about them.


And that has been happening long before the bad, orange man was voted in.

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Nothing has changed. For the last 40 years Iran has been screaming Death to America.

A war in the ME is not in the best interests of Iran or the US and both leaders know it.

Iranian mullahs have to keep up the rhetoric to satisfy the crazies in their population and it would be irresponsible of us to not be prepared for some incident. But in reality no one of consequence thinks a war would be a good thing.


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Originally Posted by k snow
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Dont worry corporate farms that employ migrants will make sure that America keeps production up. Its only the small and mid sized family farms going under, no one cares about them.


And that has been happening long before the bad, orange man was voted in.

And what has he done to fix it? Trump wants immigrants "in the largest numbers ever" I am sure that will help small farms and business and totally not drive down blue collar wages to the benefit of his corporate buddies...

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And what has he done to fix it? Trump wants immigrants "in the largest numbers ever" I am sure that will help small farms and business and totally not drive down blue collar wages to the benefit of his corporate buddies...[/quote]

I wasn't necessarily defending him, just wanted to point out that small farms have been disappearing for may years. Seems no one is trying to solve that issue. Americans in general want cheap food, and cheap labor fills that need.

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I have an idea. At the border form illegal immigrants into companies and battalions, men and women. Like the French Foreign Legion. That way we will find out who wants to really become an American or not. Length of service, six years. Citizenship upon their honorable discharge. Failure to complete military service term would mean immediate deportation.

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I wish we had learned from the gw/dick mistakes-that's asking too much.

If trump starts thinking that he is in any real danger, or the economy really starts to tank, we will start bombing in an effort to get the entire country on the same side-it won't work, but it might be tried.

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opposed to doing everything he can to divide the country and destroy it, like the last "president"... He tried but it didn't work.

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Originally Posted by Garryowen
I have an idea. At the border form illegal immigrants into companies and battalions, men and women. Like the French Foreign Legion. That way we will find out who wants to really become an American or not. Length of service, six years. Citizenship upon their honorable discharge. Failure to complete military service term would mean immediate deportation.

Garryowen

Another empire once tried something similar. Turns out giving free military training to dissimilar migrants was a terrible idea. All we need to do is confiscate and auction off companies that knowingly hire illegals and they would stop coming. Of course it doesnt matter if we just "bring in migrants in the largest numbers ever" anyways.

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Mr Trump was referring to LEGAL migrants, which is something lefties don't comprehend.


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Many illegals come here for the welfare and benefits the US provides, stop the welfare state and they will quit coming.

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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by Boco
I thought Trumps Tarriffs were causing American farmers to lose their land and livelihood?

Dont worry corporate farms that employ migrants will make sure that America keeps production up. Its only the small and mid sized family farms going under, no one cares about them.
......that's been happening for years....and now we are starting to see that change with trump,

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Originally Posted by Boco
Not CNN,it was Canadian news.(which is unbiased,not blindly supporting one political party over the other like Fox and Cnn in the states)
They interviewed some farmers that were going bankrupt because they couldn't sell enough since the tariffs to pay their bills.


Did they interview any farmers who were not going bankrupt because of the tariffs? Apparently CBC wants to find sob stories. Did they get anybody to cry on camera?


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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Mr Trump was referring to LEGAL migrants, which is something lefties don't comprehend.


So they can legally drive down wages, great. Who cares if they come legally or not, beyond a few high acheivers why let them come at all. We are diverse enough and have enough people here, time to look out for our own only.

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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Mr Trump was referring to LEGAL migrants, which is something lefties don't comprehend.


So they can legally drive down wages, great. Who cares if they come legally or not, beyond a few high acheivers why let them come at all. We are diverse enough and have enough people here, time to look out for our own only.
..........more to the story than that....most legals don't bring drugs crime and the outlaw lifestyles with them....

Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: gryhkl] #6539168
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
I wish we had learned from the gw/dick mistakes-that's asking too much.

If trump starts thinking that he is in any real danger, or the economy really starts to tank, we will start bombing in an effort to get the entire country on the same side-it won't work, but it might be tried.



I think you are 100% wrong. And I think Trump knows that is exactly what he does not need. Can you imagine what would happen in the Strait of Hormuz ?? The price of oil would go through the roof and a world-wide recession would be upon us. None of that would benefit Trump's re-election prospects and he knows it.


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6539181
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How dare you use common sense to put a damper on grackle's Trump-bashing!


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Pike River] #6539184
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Originally Posted by Pike River
Maybe the Hawks on this thread could out their money where their mouth is and take a flight to Armenia, organize and attack Iran. Maybe that will kick things off and you'll get the war you want.


Individual Americans took it upon themselves to travel to Spain and fight the fascists. Follow in their footsteps...


I don't pay taxes for a military that just does parades and air shows.


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Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: Marty] #6539189
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Weekend warriors, kill more of our kids, add more debt, get involved in another conflict, keep the war machine going.
For what real purpose? More Muslim hate I don't think the time is here to push a button or get another political no win conflict going.

Re: How long before we pound iran? [Re: gryhkl] #6539190
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
I wish we had learned from the gw/dick mistakes-that's asking too much.

If trump starts thinking that he is in any real danger, or the economy really starts to tank, we will start bombing in an effort to get the entire country on the same side-it won't work, but it might be tried.


That's terribly clichť.

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