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Re: My dog bot bitten by a rattlesnake! [Re: Boco] #6537595
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Originally Posted by Boco
Shoot the poor thing if your not going to get it medical help..


BS, he'll be fine by the weekend.

I got bit last year, he dumped his load in me, spent a few days in bed, it wsnt fun, no dr. Im glad noone shot me. it is a myth you need to go to the DR when hit by a rattler. Kids and old people sure, dogs and healthy folk, no way.

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Originally Posted by bacatrapper
Originally Posted by Boco
Shoot the poor thing if your not going to get it medical help..


BS, he'll be fine by the weekend.

I got bit last year, he dumped his load in me, spent a few days in bed, it wsnt fun, no dr. Im glad noone shot me. it is a myth you need to go to the DR when hit by a rattler. Kids and old people sure, dogs and healthy folk, no way.


Knew of a guy that tried that, he ended up pushing daisies.

Re: My dog bot bitten by a rattlesnake! [Re: AuthorTrapper] #6537657
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Rattle snakes are hemotoxic. A bite will cause almost instant necrosis....there is no just sleeping hemotoxins off...if you actually got bit and had venom injected into you...you wouldn’t be here bragging about it....I use to have rooms full of snakes and I’ve known people who have been bit by their own rattlesnakes....it is massive tissue damage extremely fast...if your dog is still alive either 1 it was a dry bite or 2 it wasn’t a rattlesnake...venom would have also caused the skin to die and literally just about fall off....either way it needs medical attention...or you can give it Benadryl and let it die...

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Re: My dog bot bitten by a rattlesnake! [Re: Vlischka] #6537661
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Originally Posted by Vlischka
Rattle snakes are hemotoxic. A bite will cause almost instant necrosis....there is no just sleeping hemotoxins off...if you actually got bit and had venom injected into you...you wouldn’t be here bragging about it....I use to have rooms full of snakes and I’ve known people who have been bit by their own rattlesnakes....it is massive tissue damage extremely fast...if your dog is still alive either 1 it was a dry bite or 2 it wasn’t a rattlesnake...venom would have also caused the skin to die and literally just about fall off....either way it needs medical attention...or you can give it Benadryl and let it die...


I'm going to beg to differ. While I do think he needs to consult his vet, I've watched a dog get bit by a rattler (yes it was a rattler). Dog swelled up bad for a week. With penicillin and benadryl given almost immediately. There was zero tissue damage. I've not heard of tissue damage like you speak of with rattlers. With brown recluse spiders yes. Are you sure that isn't a recluse bite in your pic?


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Re: My dog bot bitten by a rattlesnake! [Re: AuthorTrapper] #6537669
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Rattlesnake bite can be very nasty, I hope the dog pulls thru like a champ.


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Re: My dog bot bitten by a rattlesnake! [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6537671
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I use to do nothing but study snakes for years...there is multiple protein strands in venom all designed todo different things and every type of venomous snake has their own mix... some snakes can have hemotoxins and neurotoxins. Rattlesnake venom is no joke...not saying you mis identified a snake but I’d bet only 1 out if 20 people can accurately identify a rattlesnake and a bull snake.... I deal with it all the time... along with almost every person I have met here who has seen a brown recluse or knows someone who got bit by one here even tho they don’t exist here....I live in Washington state and have seen first hand rattlesnake bites...my dog died within hours of being bitten by one...I wish I had my computer... I have a collection of pictures of rattlesnake bite pictures that would about make you pass out... lol

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Can you see the 2 punctures from the fangs? They should be obvious

Re: My dog bot bitten by a rattlesnake! [Re: Wild_Idaho] #6537676
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Originally Posted by Wild_Idaho
Originally Posted by Vlischka
Rattle snakes are hemotoxic. A bite will cause almost instant necrosis....there is no just sleeping hemotoxins off...if you actually got bit and had venom injected into you...you wouldn’t be here bragging about it....I use to have rooms full of snakes and I’ve known people who have been bit by their own rattlesnakes....it is massive tissue damage extremely fast...if your dog is still alive either 1 it was a dry bite or 2 it wasn’t a rattlesnake...venom would have also caused the skin to die and literally just about fall off....either way it needs medical attention...or you can give it Benadryl and let it die...


I'm going to beg to differ. While I do think he needs to consult his vet, I've watched a dog get bit by a rattler (yes it was a rattler). Dog swelled up bad for a week. With penicillin and benadryl given almost immediately. There was zero tissue damage. I've not heard of tissue damage like you speak of with rattlers. With brown recluse spiders yes. Are you sure that isn't a recluse bite in your pic?

Hemotoxins attack tissue cells...and rattlesnakes have some of the best in the business... there is almost always tissue damage with a real rattlesnake bite...a fellow snake owner I knew was bit by his once and he was in the emergency room and had anti venom in him within 30 minutes of being bit by an adult and you could almost see the bones in his hands from the loss of tissue....I think he had to have a couple skin grafts and special treatments to for almost year to try to keep the skin from dying

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http://www.rattlesnakebite.org/rattlesnakepics-htm/
Here is a great example of a rattlesnake bite for those who want to see what they actually do...I would bet he had anti venom around 2 hours after the bite...so next time someone tells you about how they just slept their rattle snake bite off...lol

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Not all rattlers are created equal. Around here we have massasauga's. Almost everyone I know calls them prairie rattlers. Have to get 200 miles west of me to get in true prairie rattler habitat. We have a FEW timber rattlers just north of me and copperheads scattered around.

The massasauga's are worse than the copperheads but I don't think anyone ever dies from the bite of either one. Those timber rattlers are bad news. Real bad if one drills you and pumps in a dose of venom. Same with prairie rattlers in west KS. Bad news.

First weekend after Easter every year is the rattle snake roundup in Waynoka OK. A few prairie rattlers get caught but mostly western diamondbacks. Always a collector or two there that will pay a premium for any massasauga that was caught here. If you want to see some humans that are snake bit hang around the first aid tent they set up downtown. People get bit every year. Dr there is good at treating it. May have more snake bite experience than any other DR in the country. People allergic to horses have to be treated with benadryl. They extract anti venom from the blood of horses that have been injected with venom. Anybody allergic to horses that gets drilled is in real bad trouble. Not to going to work for several weeks.

Dogs hogs and horses can take a snake bite lots better than humans.


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Re: My dog bot bitten by a rattlesnake! [Re: Boco] #6537794
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Originally Posted by Boco
Shoot the poor thing if your not going to get it medical help..

This may be the best advice in this entire thread. if you got bit in the face by a rattler would you go to a Doctor immediately or spend days asking for advice on Trapperman??!!

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Re: My dog bot bitten by a rattlesnake! [Re: Vlischka] #6537802
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Originally Posted by Vlischka
http://www.rattlesnakebite.org/rattlesnakepics-htm/
Here is a great example of a rattlesnake bite for those who want to see what they actually do...I would bet he had anti venom around 2 hours after the bite...so next time someone tells you about how they just slept their rattle snake bite off...lol

WOW!


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Vlischka, copy that. I haven't had enough experiences with them I guess to see any tissue damage like you speak of. Actually I had never heard of tissue damage from rattlers until now, and I grew up in serious snake country in Central Oregon


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Originally Posted by Vlischka
http://www.rattlesnakebite.org/rattlesnakepics-htm/
Here is a great example of a rattlesnake bite for those who want to see what they actually do...I would bet he had anti venom around 2 hours after the bite...so next time someone tells you about how they just slept their rattle snake bite off...lol


Holy crap!


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Depends On the Type of Rattler like Danny said... Also the Severity of bite/ amount of venom. We have some Huge Timber rattlers here, but they arent very aggressive. I would hate to step on one though... Timbers are suppose to have some deadly venom and lots of it. I believe the Eastern Diamondbacks are at the top of the list.

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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Not all rattlers are created equal. Around here we have massasauga's. Almost everyone I know calls them prairie rattlers. Have to get 200 miles west of me to get in true prairie rattler habitat. We have a FEW timber rattlers just north of me and copperheads scattered around.

The massasauga's are worse than the copperheads but I don't think anyone ever dies from the bite of either one. Those timber rattlers are bad news. Real bad if one drills you and pumps in a dose of venom. Same with prairie rattlers in west KS. Bad news.

First weekend after Easter every year is the rattle snake roundup in Waynoka OK. A few prairie rattlers get caught but mostly western diamondbacks. Always a collector or two there that will pay a premium for any massasauga that was caught here. If you want to see some humans that are snake bit hang around the first aid tent they set up downtown. People get bit every year. Dr there is good at treating it. May have more snake bite experience than any other DR in the country. People allergic to horses have to be treated with benadryl. They extract anti venom from the blood of horses that have been injected with venom. Anybody allergic to horses that gets drilled is in real bad trouble. Not to going to work for several weeks.

Dogs hogs and horses can take a snake bite lots better than humans.


Guess I better be careful... Horses are one of the few things I am allergic to.

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Originally Posted by Boco
Shoot the poor thing if your not going to get it medical help..

Oh, come on; she doesn't act like she feels bad at all. She's still frisky and playful too. The swelling seems to have gone down a fair amount today as well.

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Originally Posted by AuthorTrapper
Originally Posted by Boco
Shoot the poor thing if your not going to get it medical help..

Oh, come on; she doesn't act like she feels bad at all. She's still frisky and playful too. The swelling seems to have gone down a fair amount today as well.

Listen to the experts and shoot her anyway

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I have had labs and medium sized dogs all the way down to a larger Boston Terrorist get bit and we have not lost one yet to snake bite. I figure a small dog wouldn't make it.
The vet told me once that the reason that dogs don't die when they get snake bit is because they have no idea that it can kill 'em...d2

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well im not a vet so cant offer any advice on this but I hope your dog comes through it ok.

as a side note... im terribly uncomfortable with a man proclaiming "he dumped his load in me"

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