Re: Social Security
[Re: Fisher Man]
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05/18/19 02:53 PM
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You would think with the current job rate that might be extended several years. Requiring us to pay to get it by working then giving to people that have not or illegal is a joke just pimping for votes really. You ever why nobody in DC is willing to fix it that always bothered me that they would let it wither on the vine rather then finding a fix for it.
When was the last time they increased the pay in amount? Why have they not kept up with a sustainable payment rate to keep it going?
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Re: Social Security
[Re: Fisher Man]
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05/18/19 02:58 PM
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Why should they increase the pay in amount?
Why not cut benefits?
Having to keep raising payment rates would be the definitiin ofa Ponzi scheme
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Social Security
[Re: Fisher Man]
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05/18/19 03:17 PM
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Don't remember it being raised forever that comes to mind, that is like saying a cost of living raise makes no sense!
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Jerry Herbst
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Re: Social Security
[Re: Fisher Man]
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05/18/19 03:46 PM
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You just look at what they want you to put into a 401K to be comfortable and then a guy sees what he has paid in to SS and the gap is huge really. The 13 years I put into State retirement pays about 60% of what a lifetime of paying into SS has paid out after working since I was 14 years old.
A simple question really are we paying enough to keep the system working? Just seems like the payments are behind the times not sure how people that had to live on $1,200 a month could do it today. With planning and other incomes it's easy but we all know not everyone is in that boat.
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Jerry Herbst
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Re: Social Security
[Re: Fisher Man]
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05/18/19 05:44 PM
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I already know how they will fix social security. They'll print money and devalue the dollar. You'll get everything that's owed to you - it will just be worth 10 cents for every dollar.
-Ryan
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Re: Social Security
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05/18/19 05:44 PM
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Gotta keep having more babies to keep social security going. Our birth rate has been going down for a long time, It's just barely at replacement rate right now, and that's only because of immigrants. If it weren't for immigrants, we'd be below replacement rate. Gotta make babies to grow up to be workers to pay in to social security. Lots of people retiring+not enough workers paying in=bad stuff (either higher payments in or less paid out.) I'm doing my part with 5 kiddos More cattle for the owners and the system.
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Re: Social Security
[Re: Fisher Man]
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05/18/19 06:26 PM
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J Staton
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How about we are given the choice to keep our money and invest it for our retirement, or if you want let .gov invest your money. How about if you don't work, you don't get. Finally how about if you are not a citizen you receive no kind of benefits.
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Re: Social Security
[Re: Fisher Man]
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05/18/19 06:41 PM
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unfortunately JStaton there is to much money to be made by giving away your money
and the death benefit is 250 now and my wife payed in for 35 years without drawing a dime Don't believe that BS about SS going broke its the same broken record playing over and over and people believe it cause they heard it for so long
olden tyred
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Re: Social Security
[Re: Fisher Man]
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05/18/19 06:54 PM
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danny clifton
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there is only one fund. lots of different ways that fund is funded but all the money goes to the same place. If s.s. goes "broke" the whole economy is collapsed as its all together. fiat currency, fire up the printing press and add a couple zero's to the government general fund with a couple key strokes.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Social Security
[Re: Fisher Man]
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05/18/19 07:13 PM
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Currently many illegal aliens receive supplemental social security income under section 2 of the Aug 22, 1996 non citizens law. Simply by applying for asylum and requesting a hearing aliens are granted conditional entry into the US, thereby clearing this hurdle. That's $771 for individuals and $1157 for couple. So this is already happening, he is just trying to get votes, illegal votes at that.
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Re: Social Security
[Re: Fisher Man]
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05/18/19 07:59 PM
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New York's Senator Gillibrand wants to give social security to illegal immigrants that have not paid a dime into it. They predict that SS will be broke by 2035. And this air head wants to be President??? Could you quote your source
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Re: Social Security
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05/18/19 09:06 PM
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New York's Senator Gillibrand wants to give social security to illegal immigrants that have not paid a dime into it. They predict that SS will be broke by 2035. And this air head wants to be President??? and the blue party keeps on complaining the deficit is grow to much. Lol Yet the ACA they got in is costing US tax payers Billions and billions of dollars each and is increasing every year. They are a joke.
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