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Re: Quality urine [Re: KB64] #6539868
05/18/19 03:33 PM
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Lesel Reuwsaat's stuff it probably some of the best on the market!

Re: Quality urine [Re: eastwood44mag] #6539889
05/18/19 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by eastwood44mag
Originally Posted by Dfabs
B.W.


O.P. asked for coyote and bobcat, not demon. His stuff will peel paint across the parking lot.



A 5 gallon bucket lasts a long time when you only need 4 drops at a set. If some people only knew where there stuff came from. I know a lot on here donít like him but you canít argue with results!

Re: Quality urine [Re: KB64] #6540002
05/18/19 09:10 PM
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I have used urine from several different dealers over the years and had good luck with most. I have heard of summer pee being poor. Excuse my ignorance, but what makes the summer pee bad? I would think any pee would be good if collected in a timely manner. Just looking for a little knowledge not a bashing. Thanks

Re: Quality urine [Re: Andrew Eastwood] #6540111
05/18/19 11:54 PM
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B.W. Is a acronym for what? Thank you


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Re: Quality urine [Re: KB64] #6540122
05/19/19 12:10 AM
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Bob Went


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: Quality urine [Re: trapper les] #6540127
05/19/19 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by trapper les
Bob Went




Where can I buy some?


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Re: Quality urine [Re: trapper les] #6540128
05/19/19 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by trapper les
Bob Went
Thank you trapper les


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Re: Quality urine [Re: DucksandDogs] #6540131
05/19/19 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DucksandDogs
Originally Posted by trapper les
Bob Went




Where can I buy some?


From Bob...but if you donít know how to get it from him already, you probably ainít getting any.

Re: Quality urine [Re: Dfabs] #6540133
05/19/19 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Dfabs
From Bob...but if you donít know how to get it from him already, you probably ainít getting any.





Challenge accepted.


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Re: Quality urine [Re: DucksandDogs] #6540134
05/19/19 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DucksandDogs
Originally Posted by Dfabs
From Bob...but if you donít know how to get it from him already, you probably ainít getting any.





Challenge accepted.


Itís possible, but Indiana is a long drive from Alaska.

Re: Quality urine [Re: KB64] #6540172
05/19/19 07:36 AM
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Bob sells it only 5 gallons at a time, too, as far as I know. Maybe that's just if it has to travel.


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: Quality urine [Re: WadeRyan] #6540202
05/19/19 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by WadeRyan
Originally Posted by beartooth trapr
Andy weiser has good quality, and has a good collection setup. When i need some he's just 3 hours away for me.


I'd say it's a good collection setup. Such as free urine from Indiana. That is if your order ever comes in.

How soon people forget....it's amazing.
https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6448151/1


Just wondering here, was he getting his urine from Bob? From the comments made above about Bob (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)ís urine I have some from AW that was wickedly strong, just wondering if it actually came from Bob?
If so, is there any contact info on Bob? Thanks


Thought I was a good trapper until I started trapping coyotes......
Thought I was a good bowhunter until I targeted mature bucks....
Re: Quality urine [Re: KB64] #6540490
05/19/19 05:36 PM
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I built a collection pen. put a coyote in it and fed it whole cotton tail rabbits. the urine was different from what I had been buying. for one thing no matter how much I filtered it there would be sediment in the jar. smelled different than what I had bought also. don't know what went wrong


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Re: Quality urine [Re: KB64] #6540526
05/19/19 07:07 PM
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Maybe nothing did go wrong Danny

Re: Quality urine [Re: Andrew Eastwood] #6540533
05/19/19 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew Eastwood
I have used urine from several different dealers over the years and had good luck with most. I have heard of summer pee being poor. Excuse my ignorance, but what makes the summer pee bad? I would think any pee would be good if collected in a timely manner. Just looking for a little knowledge not a bashing. Thanks

There used to be a several page discussion on this forum between most of the old urine producers that should have been archived.
Two things come mind are bacterial growth in warm weather and hormonal changes with winters approach. You might be able to stimulate the hormonal change by manipulating light conditions, don't know, but it is intriguing.

Danny you may have done it all wrong, but it seems that real urine contains various salts, proteins and hormones that that separate and settle out, I wonder if the store bought stuff is homogenized or if the Pasteurization stops the salts from settling out. By feeding full diet of meat you probably upped the proteins in the urine.

For those who are industrious, I found this recipe on the 'net;
To make one liter of DIY synthetic pee, you will need 0.75 liters of distilled water poured into your container.
Next, add 18.2 g of urea and mix the solution until every crystal has been dissolved.
Now add 4.5 g of potassium chloride, 7.5 g of sodium chloride and 4.8 g of sodium phosphate, mix the solution thoroughly.
Check with either an indicator paper or a PH meter. You want the PH to be between 5 and 7 for best results. Also, measure the solution with a urinometer, if available. You want to make sure that the solution has a specific gravity between 1.015 and 1.025.
You can save the solution the way it is. Refrigerated, it will last for many weeks, a when frozen, it would even last many months.
Whenever you want to use it, make sure it is at room temperature, heat it if you have to, then add 2 g of creatinine and 50 mg of the albumin powder.
What you now have, is a high quality, artificial or fake sample. Pour some into your transport bottle, and you are good to go.

I'd add some ammonia and a drop of skunk if wanting it to fool trappers, this recipe is meant to fool drug testers. smile

Re: Quality urine [Re: ambush32] #6540541
05/19/19 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ambush32

If so, is there any contact info on Bob? Thanks

search Lost Forty Tree Farm in Indiana that is where you can make the pickup if he still has any.

I don't know where AW got the urine but there used to be more than one producer in Indiana and I think it was from another source, the key is it wasn't paid.

Re: Quality urine [Re: KB64] #6540574
05/19/19 08:15 PM
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another problem I had with the stuff I collected besides the sediment and strong smell was it worked.

one of the biggest wholesalers of lure ingredients lists artificial coyote urine and artificial cat urine.

ask yourself where all these coyotes and bobcats are penned up at to collect the thousands of gallons sold every year.


see at every convention I go to. guys shopping for the cheapest urine they can find. 50 dollars a gallon is not to much for quality coyote pee with all the effort it takes to collect it. bobcat urine is almost unavailable. you wont buy any from a supply dealer. best to save bladder pee. good thing is cats like to sniff coyote and fox pee too.


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Re: Quality urine [Re: KB64] #6540668
05/19/19 09:57 PM
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I believe Bob is sold out of fox urine, but has plenty of coyote urine. Picked up only , no shipping.

Re: Quality urine [Re: KB64] #6540814
05/20/19 07:31 AM
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Ambush no it did not come from Bob but it was if my memory serves me correctly about a $3-4 thousand dollar order of urine that never got paid for, and was likely bought by the people that continue to support him. If you watch the collection in the video it's not that many coyotes, and a coyote can only pee so much in a couple months....yet gallons and gallons of urine are bought from Montana. I'll let you do the math. The point is people continue to push his product and consider him a stand up guy.. I'm just here to remind them. I'm lucky enough that I've had Bob's and the comments about it are nothing but true. I think you could use it alone without bait or lure.

Last edited by WadeRyan; 05/20/19 07:33 AM.

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Re: Quality urine [Re: tjm] #6540841
05/20/19 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by tjm
Originally Posted by Andrew Eastwood
I have used urine from several different dealers over the years and had good luck with most. I have heard of summer pee being poor. Excuse my ignorance, but what makes the summer pee bad? I would think any pee would be good if collected in a timely manner. Just looking for a little knowledge not a bashing. Thanks

There used to be a several page discussion on this forum between most of the old urine producers that should have been archived.
Two things come mind are bacterial growth in warm weather and hormonal changes with winters approach. You might be able to stimulate the hormonal change by manipulating light conditions, don't know, but it is intriguing.

Danny you may have done it all wrong, but it seems that real urine contains various salts, proteins and hormones that that separate and settle out, I wonder if the store bought stuff is homogenized or if the Pasteurization stops the salts from settling out. By feeding full diet of meat you probably upped the proteins in the urine.

For those who are industrious, I found this recipe on the 'net;
To make one liter of DIY synthetic pee, you will need 0.75 liters of distilled water poured into your container.
Next, add 18.2 g of urea and mix the solution until every crystal has been dissolved.
Now add 4.5 g of potassium chloride, 7.5 g of sodium chloride and 4.8 g of sodium phosphate, mix the solution thoroughly.
Check with either an indicator paper or a PH meter. You want the PH to be between 5 and 7 for best results. Also, measure the solution with a urinometer, if available. You want to make sure that the solution has a specific gravity between 1.015 and 1.025.
You can save the solution the way it is. Refrigerated, it will last for many weeks, a when frozen, it would even last many months.
Whenever you want to use it, make sure it is at room temperature, heat it if you have to, then add 2 g of creatinine and 50 mg of the albumin powder.
What you now have, is a high quality, artificial or fake sample. Pour some into your transport bottle, and you are good to go.

I'd add some ammonia and a drop of skunk if wanting it to fool trappers, this recipe is meant to fool drug testers. smile


I believe you could just mix tea, water, a little ammonia, a little skunk and fool most trappers.......

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