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Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: west river rogue] #6541419
05/21/19 09:35 AM
05/21/19 09:35 AM
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Goldsboro, North Carolina
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He is a member on here, but he hasn't been on since 2010.

This appears to be copied from something written at an earlier time.. https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthr...earch/true/re-helfrich-traps#Post6504376



Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: west river rogue] #6541473
05/21/19 10:48 AM
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I met him several year's back now he stopped by my booth and bought some bobcat urine. And that was at the montana trappers rondy.


Let me sugar coat this
Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: west river rogue] #6541588
05/21/19 02:45 PM
05/21/19 02:45 PM
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When someone rips you off, it kinda leaves a bad taste, kinda like some guy in Montana recently did to a bunch of folks. It's even worse when you really look up to the guy. But, stuff happens and Jim did have a positive impact on me as a young trapper. A student of Blackies and Blackie was Thorpe student, so they had some good methods.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: Snowpa] #6541597
05/21/19 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowpa
I sure liked him , Traps were ahead of his time and lures were good as any back then ,Boda , Helfritch ,Bishop ,Carrol ,Milligan just a few trappin fools.


Bishop lived about 10 miles down the road from me. He was the biggest con artist that ever lived.

Back In the day Jim and Charles were on the road giving demos. They did one down here for District 10 and they both stayed at my place.


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Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: The Beav] #6541601
05/21/19 03:11 PM
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Garden,Michigan
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Originally Posted by Snowpa
I sure liked him , Traps were ahead of his time and lures were good as any back then ,Boda , Helfritch ,Bishop ,Carrol ,Milligan just a few trappin fools.


Bishop lived about 10 miles down the road from me. He was the biggest con artist that ever lived.

Back In the day Jim and Charles were on the road giving demos. They did one down here for District 10 and they both stayed at my place.

Love threads like this,this is trapline history from guys who knew them.I was around then but never got to meet any of them,I did read everything these guys put out there.


Buck(formely known as Zandra)
Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: west river rogue] #6541604
05/21/19 03:15 PM
05/21/19 03:15 PM
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Paul,
I thought I saw a post on here a few months ago that talked about your dad and him discussing trap development. I thought he even said that it was him in the post?

Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: kytrapper] #6541669
05/21/19 04:43 PM
05/21/19 04:43 PM
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Goldsboro, North Carolina
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Originally Posted by kytrapper
Paul,
I thought I saw a post on here a few months ago that talked about your dad and him discussing trap development. I thought he even said that it was him in the post?


That's this one. I think Mike copied it from somewhere and posted it. I'm not sure though. https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthr...earch/true/re-helfrich-traps#Post6504376



Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: west river rogue] #6541674
05/21/19 04:58 PM
05/21/19 04:58 PM
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I last spoke with Jim about 2(or 3) years ago. Contacted him in Montana looking for parts for his traps, of which he had none. Brief discussion during which he mentioned that he had contemplated building the traps again. I recommended that he add some distinct mark if he did another run and he said he would.

Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: west river rogue] #6541675
05/21/19 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by west river rogue
house was at the back,,trap supply was back the lane on right,then the new trap shop -mft building was up by the main road.....


You should be able to find it with google earth. I did a google earth hunt for Hawbakers' a few weeks ago. It was not quite how I remembered it but I found it. Last time I was there was either 1964 or 1965.




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Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: ebsurveyor] #6541686
05/21/19 05:17 PM
05/21/19 05:17 PM
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Philippines, s.e. asia,ohio
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Originally Posted by ebsurveyor
Originally Posted by west river rogue
house was at the back,,trap supply was back the lane on right,then the new trap shop -mft building was up by the main road.....


You should be able to find it with google earth. I did a google earth hunt for Hawbakers' a few weeks ago. It was not quite how I remembered it but I found it. Last time I was there was either 1964 or 1965.




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tried but didnt know the address,,looked under rd1 and rd 2 on earth and co rd 15 (which it wasnt)i believe. Didnt see anything like it

Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: west river rogue] #6541696
05/21/19 05:35 PM
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Does anyone know if the Helfrich lures being sold today are the original formulas or have they been changed?

Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: west river rogue] #6541697
05/21/19 05:36 PM
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Date Buyer Seller Price
7/20/2005 MILLER CHARLES W & FOX BRYANT Y JR & 225000
4/24/1992 FOX BRYANT Y JR & SCHLOSSER STEPHAN R &50000
1/8/1988 SCHLOSSER STEPHAN R &FIRST FEDERAL S/L 42000
10/6/1987 FIRST FEDERAL S/L HELFRICH JAMES C ETAL 37767

GENERAL PARCEL INFORMATION
Owner
Property Address
Mailing Address
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MILLER CHARLES W & DAYNA J
19140 NORTH LIBERTY RD
19222 1/2 NORTH LIBERTY RD
FREDERICKTOWN OH 43019
510 - SINGLE FAMILY DWLG OWNER
OCCUP
12 8 2 SW OF 8 TRACT 6 5.20A

Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: west river rogue] #6541700
05/21/19 05:42 PM
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Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: ebsurveyor] #6541711
05/21/19 06:00 PM
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Philippines, s.e. asia,ohio
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Originally Posted by ebsurveyor
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holy moly,,,the road doesnt even look the same....nothing looks the same,not even remotely. Im in the twilight zone!!!

Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: west river rogue] #6541712
05/21/19 06:00 PM
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Thanks Paul for that very informative post...I had never seen it before.

Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: west river rogue] #6541717
05/21/19 06:18 PM
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Good work ebsurveyor!


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Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: west river rogue] #6541721
05/21/19 06:22 PM
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Philippines, s.e. asia,ohio
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makes me sick.......i guess i drove right by it and didnt even know it. If thats progress I surely dont like it.
looks more like swimmin pools and movie stars,,eek,,,sad,a piece of history gone.

Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: west river rogue] #6541730
05/21/19 06:46 PM
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County road 15 is several miles long and really a vague address. RFD routes change all the time and what was Route 1 back then might be route 27 now. My mailbox hasn't moved since the one in ~1985 and the address of it has changed 4 times in that time, including the street name, street number, route number, even the town and zipcode.

A James C Helfrich (formerly of Sun River MT and Fredericktown OH.) is listed in Vaughn Mt.
His profile on this site contains an email address, I'd guess if you have enough interest, you could contact the man and ask him the particulars of his former business and home.

> I see eb found it through records, good job

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Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: tjm] #6541733
05/21/19 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by tjm
County road 15 is several miles long and really a vague address. RFD routes change all the time and what was Route 1 back then might be route 27 now. My mailbox hasn't moved since the one in ~1985 and the address of it has changed 4 times in that time, including the street name, street number, route number, even the town and zipcode.

A James C Helfrich (formerly of Sun River MT and Fredericktown OH.) is listed in Vaughn Mt.
His profile on this site contains an email address, I'd guess if you have enough interest, you could contact the man and ask him the particulars of his former business and home.

> I see eb found it through records, good job

his email doesnt work already tried

Re: helfrich trapping supply [Re: west river rogue] #6541760
05/21/19 07:44 PM
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Jim was the first trapper that actually demonstrated to me how to bed a trap right at a convention. I tried to take instructions from Jim but he was booked. He introduced me to Blackie for instructions, who introduced me to Mike Marsysada and Ray Milligan. They all gave me a solid foundation to build on. Hats off to all and Thanks Jim wherever you are. They all taught me to think like an animal.


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Pay homage to all you harvest..
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