Looking at options for a shallow water well, currently "Hand Pump " system.
I need to get water into an elevated 300 gal. plastic tote.
I am hoping for a easy start gas powered well system ?
I am wondering about Harbor Freight type of trash pumps, for a well?
I think there is only 8-10 ft of pipe with a point
Will a trash pump lift water 10-12 ft , thru a check valve ?

This is the final need for a raised bed , drip irrigation , verticle grow garden set-up , I have been working on this spring.

Thx for any advice or help in this problem, in advance.
!'' trash pump

Why not go solar??

i think it will do it but i think ya need a foot valve at bottom of pipe

I have watered hogs with a Harbor Freight 1 inch gas power pump for the last 5 or 6 years. The pump started first pull for the first few years now I may have to pull it 3 or 4 times, but it has always started even in the coldest of days. It stays in the well house all year long. In the summer I leave the water in it and it will pump from the start. In winter I drain it off every time and have to dip a cup of water and pour in it before it will re prime. I run water through 3/4in hose for 250 ft horizontal and close to 30 ft elevation gain. My pump is only 5 or 6 ft above water level so a foot valve may be necessary if farther down to water. Hope this info helps you.

I use the Harbor Freight 2'' pump to lift from a spring 8' deep. I've used them to clean out wells that was at least 16'. I pump thru a 2'' then 1 1/2'' then 1'' for a quarter mile with at least a thirty ft rise. If your not too far you can just reduce your fitting down and use a 1'' line. The pump has a flapper in it too so it will prime itself but like Hydropillar said you'll be happier with a foot valve in the end of the line in the well. A 1'' inch line is plenty in the well too. I usually get about 5 yrs out of one if I keep it covered, that's using it weekly for our house, garden and field spraying.
One other thing is if you ever use it to pump a well out to clean it out, if its near the well the gas fumes can go down in the well and kill you.

You have to have good line on the suction side or it will suck it together.

Are you saying your hooked to a well pipe?
Or dropping line into standing water?

I am hoping to connect directly to the 1.25". Well pipe ?
So an inline check valve that's there would help me?
If unable to hook up that way I will then consider a electric pump and generator set up.
Any thoughts on this?

I just use a ribbed fertilizer hose in the well. You would probably do just as well with the 1'' pump. They had them the last time I bought but I was afraid it might not push it the quarter mile. And the 2'' pump has threads that fit loose with any other threads I could find and had to use O rings on them to keep from leaking alot. I was typing while Andrew put his up about the 1'' and didn't see it until I had done pushed the button, lol.

Your saying you don't have a well just a driven pipe with a sand point and a check valve at the top?

I'm not big on check valves but it would probably work.

I have pumped a lot of sand back when I had hogs in a different place and the sand never seemed to hurt the pumps.

I'll add this, if your not pumping out of a good volume of water and just a driven pipe you may out pump your source and can't stay primed.

Yes Foxpaw you got it.
Thinking about trying it .
I have wasted money before.
Just kinda painful.
Thx for the help.
Was hoping somehow it was not an original Idea.
Again Thanks all for the help and ideas.

When I trapped in Arizona some of the cattle water tanks had gas engines, the rancher would fill them up with gas and he just let them run until the gas ran out. It looked like it ran the old windmill system with a flywheel/pully setup.

If its an old pipe that has had a lot of water and sand pumped out over the years even by hand then it may be there has been enough sand pumped out that there is actually a hole or reservoir at the bottom that will hold a quite a bit of water, and you can just pump ever how much that is and then have to wait for it to fill back up and pump it again.

I don't know what your local laws are there but if you have water that close to the top of the ground you can use one of those old hand post hole diggers with the T-handle and drill down 4ft and keep adding 4 ft on til you hit water then stick a 8'' pvc pipe in there. That gives you more volume. After you pump a lot of water and sand out then the top of the ground will sink in and you can keep adding chat in it. They really cracked down on any kind of water well digging around here, afraid farm chemicals will get in the water, and any old well that's not been used in so long a period is supposed to be filled up.

If your pipe just don't have enough out put you might try a lower volume pump.

As Paul recently remarked , this is the craziest site on the web. You can pretty much ask any question and someone will have some great input. On . Almost. Any . Topic.

Well done, gents.

I can hit standing water in the swamp next door.
Well has been 10 in yrs or more back there ,always watered the garden with buckets.
I am having old man dreams of a dripping irrigation system.
Gravity fed from a 300 gal food grade tote on a raised platform of timbers

Wonder if you can hookup a water ram pump. No power used uses water flow and check valves. They run continuously to a tank with a over flow drain line.

Not sure if this helps or not but this is a picture of the 3” gas pump I setup at work to pump out two 10’000 gallon tanks that are buried 10’ under ground. The pump has a check valve on it. The tanks are 10 feet high from top to bottom so its About 20 feet or so of vertical lift by the time you get to the bottom of the tanks...So with the right setup what you are trying to do is definitely within the realms of possiblity. The key is being able to back feeding the line with water to get the pump to prime. Once its primed this will pretty much stay primed and pump until the tanks are empty.

In order to not "out pump" your well consider a throttling valve downstream of the pump discharge that you can close a certain degree to maintain prime.

Chris

Ok I finally got it thru my thick skull.
The problem is the gas pump is capable of pumping way more GPM than my well point can probably supply.
Thinking I should probably just buy a well pump and use a generator.
I have a couple so total cost to try is less.
Minimum generator requirements anyone ?
Thanks
Again.

How far to the nearest electric outlet.