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Bobcat Urine #6542224
05/22/19 06:01 PM
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In general is the bobcat urine that is on market real urine or synthetic?
The bobcat urine I have I’m guessing it’s not.

Who sells the real stuff?

Thanks


Thought I was a good trapper until I started trapping coyotes......
Thought I was a good bowhunter until I targeted mature bucks....
Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: ambush32] #6542230
05/22/19 06:13 PM
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You might try swifty on here. Your not going to get any from a dealer. It is ALL artificial and complete junk. If you can find some real coyote or fox pee cats investigate it just fine. Lots better than the artificial cat pee. Check cat bladders. Unlike coyotes they dont pee while in a trap.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: ambush32] #6542237
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If you think all thousands of gallons of cat pee sold every year are real where are all the hundreds of caged bobcats?


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Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: ambush32] #6542277
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X2 Danny. There's very few who sell pure bobcat, fox or coyote urine. I try to harvest all bladders from my catches.
I know Andy has some critters caged to collect the urine.

Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: ambush32] #6542293
05/22/19 07:22 PM
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A few years ago I lived 60 miles from 200 cats and a few lyxn to boot and some coyotes.
Glad I stocked up
They pelted out .


Kenneth schoening
Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: ambush32] #6542296
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You can find good fox and coyote urine.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: ambush32] #6542349
05/22/19 08:38 PM
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Danny,

We'll not be selling urine direct to trappers anymore here in a couple weeks, BUT you are not accurate on bobcat urine not being authentic.
A collector in MT is where we (and several others) get our urine. Sadly, he went out of biz after many stellar years last season.

Mark

Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: ambush32] #6542432
05/22/19 10:49 PM
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no way he produced even 25% of all that was sold. How many thousand gallons of the artificial cat pee sold by those NJ jews was and is sold as natural not artificial????????????????????????? Everybody selling cat pee claimed to get it from that same fur farm. Those cats must pee ten gallons a day apiece.


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Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: ambush32] #6542449
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might all be a blend like Canada whiskey. Be interesting to get hold that NJ shipping list. If a cat farmer was buying tanker loads of synthetic and blending it with real stuff, would the dealers notice?

Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: ambush32] #6542450
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Not just trappers buying urine either untold amounts are sold to people wanting to scare mice or fool deer.

Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: ambush32] #6542461
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The Richwines are some fine people and did in fact produce most of the bobcat urine sold in the trapping industry up until last year.

Several thousand gallons. Had many fascinating conversations with them about their business. The fur farming and the urine production/sales.

The bobcats they raised where simply amazing. Unlike anything I have ever seen. Kathy spent years manipulating the genetics with her breeding program.

I'm not sure where the bobcat urine will come from in the future. Lots of small time producers around but most of that is spoken for.

The thought that supply houses are selling artificial seems unreasonable as it is so expensive and doesn't smell much like the real thing.

I still have 8 gallons of "the good stuff"

Cory and Kathy Richwine:

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Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: Mercer Lawing] #6542481
05/23/19 04:55 AM
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Remember when you could by IN HEAT Urine by the tanker truck load .

Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: ambush32] #6542486
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Walmart must sell a million gallons of doe in heat urine in little glass bottles. seen they also have fox pee and coon pee. bowhunters and fisherman will buy anything too


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Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: ambush32] #6542520
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Good input Mercer. We didn't... but a couple of the biggest dealers in our industry sold Cory's urine to other dealers as best they could based on availability. For those asking about synthetics, as one who has formulated for the deer industry also since 1984, synthetics are MUCH too expensive. No way to produce that for trappers at a trapper's price.

If it's not authentic bobcat, chances are it's feral.

We produced coyote urine for 7 years a few years back and it's a day after day after day grind. Lotta work. Pinch of money. Mainly did it so what we sold to our customers came from a trusted source.

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Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: ambush32] #6542525
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I can pee over the moon if I drink a case of beer


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Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: ambush32] #6542527
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Some here are simply trying to answer the OP's question...
Amongst those who have opinions based on assumptions that are less than accurate laugh

Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: ambush32] #6542534
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What part of lie,label and sell is an assumption?

Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: danny clifton] #6542538
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Walmart must sell a million gallons of doe in heat urine in little glass bottles. seen they also have fox pee and coon pee. bowhunters and fisherman will buy anything too


I can't speak to cat or coyote pee with any authority but I can guarantee you there are good quality deer lures on the market that work. One of the best I've ever used was a synthetic I mixed with my own urine. A fellow down in Ohio was marketing the product, and idea, and I thought it sounded just crazy enough that there might be something to it. He was right, it works.

Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: ambush32] #6542540
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Why is the price of cat urine about the same as everything else but yet there are so many less and takes longer to accumulate?

Re: Bobcat Urine [Re: tbn] #6542543
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Originally Posted by tbn
What part of lie,label and sell is an assumption?


The part that infers that all bobcat urine on the market is fake juice.
Some in the trade sell the real deal.

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