Re: Grads Are Demanding Taxpayers pay for degrees
[Re: Finster]
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Scholarships just what are they all about? LOL
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Re: Grads Are Demanding Taxpayers pay for degrees
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Scholarships just what are they all about? LOL Social engineering. White males need not apply. "The White Man's Guide to Getting a Minority Scholarship www.collegescholarships.org › Minority Scholarships Are you a white male looking for a scholarship? Here's an ultimate guide that shows you exactly how get a white minority scholarship. No fluff, just facts."
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Who is John Galt?
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Re: Grads Are Demanding Taxpayers pay for degrees
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All education should be paid for. Including K-12.
Why should I pay for your education after K-12? You didn't pay for mine, I DID!
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Re: Grads Are Demanding Taxpayers pay for degrees
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All education should be paid for. Including K-12.
Why should I pay for your education after K-12? You didn't pay for mine, I DID! I assumed he meant all education paid for in the sense of private school and everyone pays their own way. But, we all know about assumptions.
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Re: Grads Are Demanding Taxpayers pay for degrees
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Rob, I think you are correct in your assumptions, if I'm wrong we both fell into the same trap lol.
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Re: Grads Are Demanding Taxpayers pay for degrees
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Rob, I think you are correct in your assumptions, if I'm wrong we both fell into the same trap lol. I’ll tell ya, won’t be the first time I’ve been caught.
Who is John Galt?
You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.
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Re: Grads Are Demanding Taxpayers pay for degrees
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I assumed he meant all education paid for in the sense of private school and everyone pays their own way.
But, we all know about assumptions.
I suppose it reads either way. Not sure how he meant it now.
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Re: Grads Are Demanding Taxpayers pay for degrees
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All three of my kids paid their way through college. I told them when they started high school I was responsible for them until they graduated and turned 18 and then they were on their own. I encouraged them to do extra curricular activities and concentrate on their studies. They all received scholarships but still ended up with quite a bit of debt. I think mom sent a little money for extras but they paid for most. I think this made them value their education more and work harder.
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Re: Grads Are Demanding Taxpayers pay for degrees
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Why should I pay for your education after K-12? You didn't pay for mine, I DID!
I assumed he meant all education paid for in the sense of private school and everyone pays their own way. But, we all know about assumptions. Thank you Rob. Why should you pay for my child's education period. Its my kid, my responsibility.
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Re: Grads Are Demanding Taxpayers pay for degrees
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Student loan program needs to end. Cost of a college degree would drop 75% or more within 5 years.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Grads Are Demanding Taxpayers pay for degrees
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One problem is lots of kids are not going just for the education but rather the "college experience" drugs, drinking, sex, partying. You can get an education for a lot cheaper if you don't have to have the "experience".
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Re: Grads Are Demanding Taxpayers pay for degrees
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Student loan program needs to end. Cost of a college degree would drop 75% or more within 5 years. Darn good point Danny. Saw a government stat recently highlighting that for every dollar loaned by Uncle Sam... college tuition raises 60 cents. The cart is chasing the horse!!!! Our kids were told early on, no help from mom and dad since I went to school on my own dime and initiative (and my parents were white privileged too for goodness sake. Dad was an attorney and mom a store manager for Sears). But two of our four married children got married to spouses with HUGE student debt... so while they have no 6 figure college debt, they married into it. Our two married children with no student debt between them are FAR outpacing the two married children WITH huge debt. Ex: home/savings/debt/stress levels/etc. So while our kids may be debt free, someone they marry may be stuck in quick sand and they'll get sucked in. Our daugther-in-law in MI is wanting to work at a dismal job for another 6 years so she gets loan forgiveness for her 6 figure Social Worker Master's degree. It's the new indentured service model in our country IMO. Plus, her hubby (our son) is treading water in a tough economic region also... but they're up to their necks with Uncle Sam's loans over their heads. A lot of it going around friends.
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Re: Grads Are Demanding Taxpayers pay for degrees
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That broad is as stupid and whiny as the young adults that are asking us to pay for the loans they took out. There should be something done that allows kids to attend two and four year schools using loans with lower interest rates, but the money should always have to be paid back.
My oldest son just received his masters on Mother's Day. His debt to attend the private school he choose is a little more than 100K. That's after he used his savings, scholarship monies, and the 529 plan money we put away for him since birth. He was hired as a physician's assistant @ nearly 92K plus he'll get some of his loans paid for during the first few years of employment. Some other students paid the same for an education degree that they'll be lucky to earn 40K as a new hire.
Most bright kids with good work ethics will do at least as well(more often better) if he chooses the right major and gets a college degree or tech certification than going right to work in whatever field is hot when he graduates from high school. I can't believe I'm about to say this but, I agree with grackle! The stupid kids with stupid degrees and little hope of paying back their loans (therefore demanding loan forgiveness) are pathetic examples of today's youth. The whiny, condescending women in the video forgot to mention the hundreds of thousands of intelligent, ambitious young people who knew what they wanted, got a degree or degrees in their chosen profession and now make a ton of money doing something they love. There isn't a darn thing wrong with learning a trade or getting a college degree if it's what you want and your chosen career will make you enough money for you and your future family to live comfortably. Every child should have multiple, in-depth, frank and honest discussions about this with their parents. Every child should be given the chance to make a good decision about their future with lots of intelligent guidance from their parents.
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Re: Grads Are Demanding Taxpayers pay for degrees
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Student loan program needs to end. Cost of a college degree would drop 75% or more within 5 years. I couldn't agree more. The costs of higher education are out of control due, in no small part, to government involvement.
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Re: Grads Are Demanding Taxpayers pay for degrees
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Drugs, drinking, sex, partying....Im only 63..is it too late for me to go to college???!!
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Re: Grads Are Demanding Taxpayers pay for degrees
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That broad is as stupid and whiny as the young adults that are asking us to pay for the loans they took out. There should be something done that allows kids to attend two and four year schools using loans with lower interest rates, but the money should always have to be paid back.
My oldest son just received his masters on Mother's Day. His debt to attend the private school he choose is a little more than 100K. That's after he used his savings, scholarship monies, and the 529 plan money we put away for him since birth. He was hired as a physician's assistant @ nearly 92K plus he'll get some of his loans paid for during the first few years of employment. Some other students paid the same for an education degree that they'll be lucky to earn 40K as a new hire.
Most bright kids with good work ethics will do at least as well(more often better) if he chooses the right major and gets a college degree or tech certification than going right to work in whatever field is hot when he graduates from high school. I can't believe I'm about to say this but, I agree with grackle! The stupid kids with stupid degrees and little hope of paying back their loans (therefore demanding loan forgiveness) are pathetic examples of today's youth. The whiny, condescending women in the video forgot to mention the hundreds of thousands of intelligent, ambitious young people who knew what they wanted, got a degree or degrees in their chosen profession and now make a ton of money doing something they love. There isn't a darn thing wrong with learning a trade or getting a college degree if it's what you want and your chosen career will make you enough money for you and your future family to live comfortably. Every child should have multiple, in-depth, frank and honest discussions about this with their parents. Every child should be given the chance to make a good decision about their future with lots of intelligent guidance from their parents.
No Jab.
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