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Re: Grizzlies expand into farmland, attack livestock [Re: joepennanti] #6544126
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Surely the reintroduction of wolves hasn't forced the bears to extend their range to feed their selves?


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Re: Grizzlies expand into farmland, attack livestock [Re: joepennanti] #6544157
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I don't live in griz area but have friend and people I know that do. Grizzles are place now that they never have been before. Wildfires have pushed them to low land and now seem to call these areas home away from home type thing. With some companies now they require or let their work force carry protection in areas they never had to before.


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Re: Grizzlies expand into farmland, attack livestock [Re: joepennanti] #6544172
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150 years ago they used to live out on the plains, not just in mountains. As their population grows they are just expanding back into their old territory. Need to start hunting them again as we did up til the 70's.

Re: Grizzlies expand into farmland, attack livestock [Re: joepennanti] #6544175
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^ yes that is true, they actually where pushed out and up through the years. Thanks


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Re: Grizzlies expand into farmland, attack livestock [Re: merganser] #6544192
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Originally Posted by merganser
150 years ago they used to live out on the plains, not just in mountains. As their population grows they are just expanding back into their old territory. Need to start hunting them again as we did up til the 70's.

Exactly right...but I think it was further back than 1870. They now need a season.


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Re: Grizzlies expand into farmland, attack livestock [Re: joepennanti] #6544212
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Read about Lewis & Clark and their encounters with the grizzlies on the plains and how they were shocked by these. Hugh Glass wasn't in the mountains when he was left for dead either.

Re: Grizzlies expand into farmland, attack livestock [Re: joepennanti] #6544262
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We've had grizzlies here in town several times over the last ten years or so. Cody had a couple in town last summer.


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Re: Grizzlies expand into farmland, attack livestock [Re: K52] #6544264
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Originally Posted by K52
Read about Lewis & Clark and their encounters with the grizzlies on the plains and how they were shocked by these. Hugh Glass wasn't in the mountains when he was left for dead either.


Exactly he was in South Dakota


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Re: Grizzlies expand into farmland, attack livestock [Re: joepennanti] #6544269
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Grizzly's used to live in and around Denver, this would be a great place to restock problem bears from WY. and MT. I'd love to see them around Rocky MT. National Park. Write your Congressman ( especially you "D"s)......to much to resist.

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Re: Grizzlies expand into farmland, attack livestock [Re: joepennanti] #6544273
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I can just see it now. Reintroducing grizzlies to their native lands, and all the new hunting and trapping regulations that will come after that.


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Re: Grizzlies expand into farmland, attack livestock [Re: joepennanti] #6544280
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Bring back the bison also.
The Plains was once the Serengeti of North America.

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Re: Grizzlies expand into farmland, attack livestock [Re: wy.wolfer] #6544292
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Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Grizzly's used to live in and around Denver, this would be a great place to restock problem bears from WY. and MT. I'd love to see them around Rocky MT. National Park. Write your Congressman ( especially you "D"s)......to much to resist.

I have pretty much said that for long time now only reason ANYBODY WHATS ANYTHING REINTRODUCED is because they do not have any .
And when they get some they will not want them in a short time span.

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Re: Grizzlies expand into farmland, attack livestock [Re: joepennanti] #6544314
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As one western senator said to an eastern senator who was in favor of re-introduction of wolves, let’s put them in your backyard since you want them so much.

Re: Grizzlies expand into farmland, attack livestock [Re: joepennanti] #6544339
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California can adopt the grizzlies here ....putting their state emblem up to date grin

Re: Grizzlies expand into farmland, attack livestock [Re: joepennanti] #6544621
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Re: Grizzlies expand into farmland, attack livestock [Re: joepennanti] #6544680
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As a person living on the edge of grizzly bear habitat I sat in on a " living with wildlife " meeting aimed toward livestock producers. So if I remember correctly if your trapping and snaring coyotes and a grizzly starts preying on the livestock and the Fed's are called in to catch the offending bear or bears you have to snap your traps and knock down your snares so you don't inter fear with the capture of the bear.
Maybe this will work maybe not I've got a feeling some will solve the problem with other means instead of jumping through all those hoops.
I still feel that a hunting season will help reduce conflicts across the Pacific Northwest between livestock producers and outdoor recreational users .
Boco we already have the Serengeti in Montana the crow Indian Reservation is about 2.2 million acres and they have buffalo and other wildlife on the rez, another group is trying to do the same thing north of the Missouri River Breaks I'd rather they did that in your area than in mine.
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Re: Grizzlies expand into farmland, attack livestock [Re: Allan Minear] #6544910
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Originally Posted by Allan Minear
As a person living on the edge of grizzly bear habitat I sat in on a " living with wildlife " meeting aimed toward livestock producers. So if I remember correctly if your trapping and snaring coyotes and a grizzly starts preying on the livestock and the Fed's are called in to catch the offending bear or bears you have to snap your traps and knock down your snares so you don't inter fear with the capture of the bear.
Maybe this will work maybe not I've got a feeling some will solve the problem with other means instead of jumping through all those hoops.
I still feel that a hunting season will help reduce conflicts across the Pacific Northwest between livestock producers and outdoor recreational users .
Boco we already have the Serengeti in Montana the crow Indian Reservation is about 2.2 million acres and they have buffalo and other wildlife on the rez, another group is trying to do the same thing north of the Missouri River Breaks I'd rather they did that in your area than in mine.
Allan
And the Tribes are promoting a permanent ban on any potential Grizzly bear hunting season EVER in the lower 48 states, no matter where grizzlies may re-populate to. They claim that in they're religion bears were revered as almost like grandparents, and trophy hunting them is WRONG. So what were grizzly claw necklaces all about? Trophy's of a hunters prowess!

Re: Grizzlies expand into farmland, attack livestock [Re: joepennanti] #6544933
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Animal parts are clan dodem.
Some animals were taken for religious/spiritual purposes.


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