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O'Gorman's : The System ???? #6544559 05/26/19 10:30 PM 05/26/19 10:30 PM
Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 11,861 Amite county Mississippi Wolfdog91 OP trapper
Wolfdog91 OP trapper Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 11,861 Amite county Mississippi	So I was flipping through their catalog and in the section where they talk about their various firsts in the industry,they mention something called The System. Said they only sold it to trappers who could keep a secret until some guy made a video of it then they took it off the market. Theres no pictures but it mentions that it was the fist all metal slider system that could be used in culverts of all sizes. I figure this was just like the first incarnations of a rebar drowning rod but really wanted to know if any of you guys would have anymore info. Pics mabye ? Thanks ! God Bless !

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6544565 05/26/19 10:40 PM 05/26/19 10:40 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 3,010 ohio T tomahawker trapper
tomahawker trapper T Joined: May 2009 Posts: 3,010 ohio	This information is classified. www.tomahawkoutdoors.com

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6544571 05/26/19 10:49 PM 05/26/19 10:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 17,797 N.W. Iowa T Tactical.20 trapper
Tactical.20 trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 17,797 N.W. Iowa	I have read about it, I don't know if many use them

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6544586 05/26/19 11:24 PM 05/26/19 11:24 PM
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 258 Mi.In. N niteprowler trapper
niteprowler trapper N Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 258 Mi.In.	Yes, classified information ! Not to be sold or even talked about to anyone within a 300 mile radius of Broadus,Montana. Just joking with ya wolf.But several years back O'Gorman did have a rule like that on some of his stuff. As far as a system I dont remember him having something called that right off hand. I do remember a book advertised in FFG by another guy that he called The System. I beleive.It was back in the early 80's.It was about water trapping.I always wanted it but it was like 20 or 25 bucks and that was a ton of money for a book back then ! And especially for a kid that was not old enough to have a steady job yet.

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: wr otis] #6544628 05/27/19 01:17 AM 05/27/19 01:17 AM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 76 Alberta B Bad Dog trapper
Bad Dog trapper B Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 76 Alberta	I think if someone tells you, he is supposed to kill you after??? canadiancoyotecompany.com

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6544633 05/27/19 02:13 AM 05/27/19 02:13 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,548 minn F fossil2 trapper
fossil2 trapper F Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,548 minn	niteprowler,,,the book you refer to was "water trapping at its best, the system". author was marlin farmer out of alabama. the methods were almost all bridge/culvert wall sets.

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6544645 05/27/19 05:09 AM 05/27/19 05:09 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 9,839 Northern Illinois M MChewk trapper
MChewk trapper M Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 9,839 Northern Illinois	Fossil, I was thinking Dan Bishop but didn't know about Mr. Farmer's system

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: MChewk] #6544655 05/27/19 06:21 AM 05/27/19 06:21 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,719 Maine M Mac trapper
Mac trapper M Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,719 Maine	Originally Posted by MChewk Fossil, I was thinking Dan Bishop but didn't know about Mr. Farmer's system McChewk, Fossil is correct. It is hard cover book that focuses almost exclusively on his system of blind setting using modiifed number one long spring. As niteprowler pointed it out it was sort of pricey for the time it came out. Farmer mentioned that another system book was to follow for another critter but I never see the second book in the series hit the market. Mac

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6544677 05/27/19 07:54 AM 05/27/19 07:54 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,882 SE Kentucky K kytrapper trapper
kytrapper trapper K Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,882 SE Kentucky	There was a kid in high school who had the Farmer book. I couldn’t or wouldn’t spend the 25.00 for it. He let me borrow it and it made a kid dream of making big water catches. I bought the book years later and it seemed a lot simpler than I remembered. Lots and lots of pictures of verticle edge sets either bridge walls or trees. You can find them for about the same 25 bucks or even less today. The sets are still solid info but are pretty much common knowledge in any mink book now. I am not privy to he other book that started the thread.

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6544773 05/27/19 09:57 AM 05/27/19 09:57 AM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,403 nebraska S scheide trapper
scheide trapper S Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,403 nebraska	Wolfie, you are right. A smooth rod with a sliding drowner lock to be used inside a culvert. I have/had one, I will see if I can find it and get a picture of it.

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6544792 05/27/19 10:17 AM 05/27/19 10:17 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 17,797 N.W. Iowa T Tactical.20 trapper
Tactical.20 trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 17,797 N.W. Iowa	Lol Dan bishop, he was a joke

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6544845 05/27/19 11:08 AM 05/27/19 11:08 AM
Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 6,562 MB J Jurassic Park trapper
Jurassic Park trapper J Joined: Sep 2016 Posts: 6,562 MB	So can anyone write a book and sell it to the bunch for $25? Sounds like a good way to make some extra cash. Cold as ice!

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6544848 05/27/19 11:12 AM 05/27/19 11:12 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,548 minn F fossil2 trapper
fossil2 trapper F Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,548 minn	another piece of trivia,,,,if im not mistaken, there were actually TWO dan bishops, both selling methods back then. one of them was supposedly a straight-up guy, and the other, not so much.

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6544890 05/27/19 12:04 PM 05/27/19 12:04 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,833 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,833 Wisconsin	The Dan Bishop from Evansville WI was a crook from the word go. He gave his first class at my home. We had 12 students there and at ten end no one paid him for his class. One guy said he had learned more from me over the phone then he learned In the class. He was I think the first one that went on the road giving classes. And I'm pretty sure he stiffed a lot of hotels for room space. If you looked close at his book you could see where he copied pictures from other books and even used some of the wording when describing sets. The brains behind It was his cameraman Brett. But he did start on the road trapping instruction. I think Dan has passed. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6544891 05/27/19 12:10 PM 05/27/19 12:10 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,882 SE Kentucky K kytrapper trapper
kytrapper trapper K Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,882 SE Kentucky	I think he did a fox system and a mink system if I remember correctly.

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6544976 05/27/19 02:21 PM 05/27/19 02:21 PM
Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 463 Upstate NY David Morse trapper
David Morse trapper Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 463 Upstate NY	The other Dan Bishop was out of Greenville NY. I bought all his stuff several years ago. He had as whole shed full of beaver castor, many lure ingredients, hundreds of older traps. life member NYSTA

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: Wolfdog91] #6545004 05/27/19 03:13 PM 05/27/19 03:13 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,833 Wisconsin T The Beav trapper
The Beav trapper T Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,833 Wisconsin	Not sure about the mink system but he had a fox system. Dan was a school teacher and he also manufactured Glacier Valley deer scents I don't remember any trapping lures. The forum Know It All according to Muskrat

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: Mac] #6545118 05/27/19 06:43 PM 05/27/19 06:43 PM
Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 11,861 Amite county Mississippi Wolfdog91 OP trapper
Wolfdog91 OP trapper Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 11,861 Amite county Mississippi	Originally Posted by Mac Originally Posted by MChewk Fossil, I was thinking Dan Bishop but didn't know about Mr. Farmer's system McChewk, Fossil is correct. It is hard cover book that focuses almost exclusively on his system of blind setting using modiifed number one long spring. As niteprowler pointed it out it was sort of pricey for the time it came out. Farmer mentioned that another system book was to follow for another critter but I never see the second book in the series hit the market. Mac Interesting. If you dont mind ne asking,how exactly was it modified?

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: fossil2] #6545120 05/27/19 06:44 PM 05/27/19 06:44 PM
Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 11,861 Amite county Mississippi Wolfdog91 OP trapper
Wolfdog91 OP trapper Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 11,861 Amite county Mississippi	Originally Posted by fossil2 another piece of trivia,,,,if im not mistaken, there were actually TWO dan bishops, both selling methods back then. one of them was supposedly a straight-up guy, and the other, not so much. yeah I was about to say I could have sworn I head the name before but in a fairly good light

Re: O'Gorman's : The System ???? [Re: The Beav] #6545121 05/27/19 06:46 PM 05/27/19 06:46 PM
Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 11,861 Amite county Mississippi Wolfdog91 OP trapper
Wolfdog91 OP trapper Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 11,861 Amite county Mississippi	Originally Posted by The Beav The Dan Bishop from Evansville WI was a crook from the word go. He gave his first class at my home. We had 12 students there and at ten end no one paid him for his class. One guy said he had learned more from me over the phone then he learned In the class. He was I think the first one that went on the road giving classes. And I'm pretty sure he stiffed a lot of hotels for room space. If you looked close at his book you could see where he copied pictures from other books and even used some of the wording when describing sets. The brains behind It was his cameraman Brett. But he did start on the road trapping instruction. I think Dan has passed. Dang he was that bad lol ?

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