Treating Pond for Weeds ...
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Does anyone know of any trustworthy person in the Newark / Granville area that does pond treatment for pond weeds. Doesn't appear to be any accumulation of algae, but does have significant amount submerged pond weeds. Pond close to 2 acres, seems to have weeds in 1/2 to 2/3 of the pond. My experience with this has all evaporated with age and have a friend that need some work done. I had another friend several years ago that hired a guy (thank God I didn't recommend him) to take care of weeds in a pond and the guy did that … but also killed all of the fish in the pond. Let me know if anyone can help with some info on someone that is trustworthy and really knows what they are doing.
Thank You …. Garry-
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Re: Treating Pond for Weeds ...
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Yes Keith, the owner has talked with several people about them and his reports have not been good. I guess they disturb nesting blue gills and bass by their rooting around and destroying the beds … so he has ruled that out
Garry-
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Yes Keith, the owner has talked with several people about them and his reports have not been good. I guess they disturb nesting blue gills and bass by their rooting around and destroying the beds … so he has ruled that out
Garry- Great..... my boss just put some in my favorite bass pond...
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Re: Treating Pond for Weeds ...
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One thing I have observed about grass carp … they do get rid of plants (weeds) in a pond. I compare the before and after to; a lush field of fresh clover and alfalfa before the carp …. to the Sahara desert afterwards. the thing many people don't realize is that you need a certain amount of vegetation in a pond, but must be kept under and be the right kind. When I lived in Florida I saw lakes 50 to 100 acres, that someone had put hydrilla in. If don't know what is, it is the stuff they put in a fish bowl when you buy a good fish. I was told by Game and Fish people in Florida that it can grow in the summer month from 12 to 18 inches in 24 hours. I have seen small lakes , where they sprayed it with strong herbicides, but it seemed to grow faster than it died. The have a large machine they run through some of the lake that chops it up and loads it into a barge and hauled away. They make pathways through it so people can fish it. The bad thing about cutting it is that each tinny piece that doesn't get loaded on the barge, starts a new plant growing. These lakes hold some very large bass, if you can get to the water. I caught a 14+ # bass in one of them.
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Re: Treating Pond for Weeds ...
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You just have to manage the number of grass carp, like you would cattle, sheep and goats in a pasture, to get the results you want. If pasture gets eaten down to much, you reduce the number of animals you keep in the pasture. If to much vegetation disappears from your pond, start hooking, snagging, shooting, spear or bow hunting grass carp, until the vegetation rebounds to where you want it to be. Ponds are best when they are well managed. Pond Boss, my second favorite forum, is a great pond management resource. http://forums.pondboss.com/Keith
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Grass carp do work. We introduced 18 juveniles into a 3.5 acre pond. The water was muddy from their feeding..for two years. Eliminated half of them and went back to using copper sulfate. Have to be careful using it. if too strong the copper sulfate will kill every thing in the pond. I have tried the scatter method along the shore. results were not good. Best results that we have had is Gramps old recipe. Use so many pounds per acre of water (he measured it with a coffee can). Put the copper sulfate in a burlap bag, hang off the back of the boat and tea bag the thing behind the boat staying close to the shore line.
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Re: Treating Pond for Weeds ...
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Stunted bass are usually the product of a pond that is out of balance. Set a size limit on the bass of say 12-14" and fillet or make bait out of everything under that release the larger ones. Fish for the small ones aggressively until you cannot find anymore then add bluegill, fathead minnows, shiners, threadfin shad, tadpoles, crawfish or any combination as long as the bluegill are a part of it. Harvest is a critical part of pond management, if the bass are allowed to overpopulate, they will eat all the available forage and just like you and me we tend to lose weight when the groceries run out. We use feeders to help feed the bluegill to keep them fat and fertile, producing more bass food.
Diuron/Diurex will take the floating algae mats out pronto. Sprinkle lightly around the edge or make a solution and spray with a garden or backpack sprayer.
I have never experienced grass carp muddying the water. That sounds more like common carp. The grass carp we put in the lake here, have been doing a great job of both eliminating weeds and eliminating the use of chemicals. The lake is safe to swim in. We have several ponds, a newly enlarged 40 or so acre lake that was about 10 acres for most of my 18 yrs on the job. Lot's of experience and interaction with the fisheries folks.
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Thank you for the help … It isn't my pond so I have relayed to the owner and will decide how he wants to handle it.
Garry-
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Good information - Thanks
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