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Border issue needs to get done! #6550022
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Re: Border issue needs to get done! [Re: snowy] #6550028
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Yes, and it will get worse with so many intelligent people acting stupid.

Re: Border issue needs to get done! [Re: snowy] #6550029
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Why is it illegal to shoot someone who is trying to invade the country? Makes no sense, throw the military on the border and just shoot a couple illegals, would cost like 40 bucks and totally solve the problem.

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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Why is it illegal to shoot someone who is trying to invade the country? Makes no sense, throw the military on the border and just shoot a couple illegals, would cost like 40 bucks and totally solve the problem.


Your military is that cheap?


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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Why is it illegal to shoot someone who is trying to invade the country? Makes no sense, throw the military on the border and just shoot a couple illegals, would cost like 40 bucks and totally solve the problem.


Your military is that cheap?

It would probably actually save money if we pulled troops out of the middle east and positioned them on the border instead, the total cost I said assumed we pulled deployed troops from somewhere else.

Re: Border issue needs to get done! [Re: Donnersurvivor] #6550038
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Why is it illegal to shoot someone who is trying to invade the country? Makes no sense, throw the military on the border and just shoot a couple illegals, would cost like 40 bucks and totally solve the problem.


How would the rest of the world view us if we start shooting refugees. Yes, a lot of these people cross the border, turn themselves in, and claim refugee status--which under our law, they are entitled to do.

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Re: Border issue needs to get done! [Re: James] #6550040
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Why is it illegal to shoot someone who is trying to invade the country? Makes no sense, throw the military on the border and just shoot a couple illegals, would cost like 40 bucks and totally solve the problem.


How would the rest of the world view us if we start shooting refugees. Yes, a lot of these people cross the border, turn themselves in, and claim refugee status--which under our law, they are entitled to do.

Jim

They are entitled legally (my understanding) to claim refuge in the first safe country they pass into (Mexico,Panama, etc).

As far as the rest of the world, I dont want us the be the rest of the world which is why its time to stop the influx of low IQ migrants.

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Re: Border issue needs to get done! [Re: snowy] #6550042
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I think we are all being a little harsh. Our nation was founded by immigrants and some people fail to see that. I do agree though that the problem at the border has to be solved. Immigration needs to be put in check.

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Originally Posted by cheitzman
I think we are all being a little harsh. Our nation was founded by immigrants and some people fail to see that. I do agree though that the problem at the border has to be solved. Immigration needs to be put in check.


No, our nation was founded pioneers, they then decided to allow some immigrants in as it would benefit the nation.

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Re: Border issue needs to get done! [Re: snowy] #6550046
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The blue party needs to get at the table and help solve the problem instead of them being the problem! Nothing will be done as long as this president is in office because the blue have to much HATE and will not support nothing and will fight every inch of the way.


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Re: Border issue needs to get done! [Re: snowy] #6550051
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They can only claim Refugee status at ports of entry. The majority detained are not coming through ports of entry. Our governor has pulled the NG from the border because "there's no crisis". Governing officals where the immigrants are being shipped to along with CPB all claim there's a crisis. Our governor recently went to DC to ask for reimbursement for dealing with the immigrants. She and her staff also went to help serve food for the immigrants because it's the right thing to do. I've suggested to her to shelter them at her mansion in Santa fe.

Re: Border issue needs to get done! [Re: adam m] #6550054
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Originally Posted by adam m
They can only claim Refugee status at ports of entry. The majority detained are not coming through ports of entry. Our governor has pulled the NG from the border because "there's no crisis". Governing officals where the immigrants are being shipped to along with CPB all claim there's a crisis. Our governor recently went to DC to ask for reimbursement for dealing with the immigrants. She and her staff also went to help serve food for the immigrants because it's the right thing to do. I've suggested to her to shelter them at her mansion in Santa fe.


You are wrong. Illegal immigrants CAN claim refugee status, regardless of their point of entry. https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/can-undocumented-immigrant-get-asylum.html

Trump wants to change the law to allow asylum claims only at designated ports of entry. Which is kind of nonsensical, as applied to refugees who cannot reach a port of entry.

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Originally Posted by James
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They can only claim Refugee status at ports of entry. The majority detained are not coming through ports of entry. Our governor has pulled the NG from the border because "there's no crisis". Governing officals where the immigrants are being shipped to along with CPB all claim there's a crisis. Our governor recently went to DC to ask for reimbursement for dealing with the immigrants. She and her staff also went to help serve food for the immigrants because it's the right thing to do. I've suggested to her to shelter them at her mansion in Santa fe.


You are wrong. Illegal immigrants CAN claim refugee status, regardless of their point of entry. https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/can-undocumented-immigrant-get-asylum.html

Trump wants to change the law to allow asylum claims only at designated ports of entry. Which is kind of nonsensical, as applied to refugees who cannot reach a port of entry.

Jim

Thanks. I thought it changed. I did a quick search a few sources say it changed in Nov. Don't know which source to believe just like most articles online lol

https://www.ncronline.org/news/justice/new-rule-denies-asylum-those-entering-us-between-entry-ports


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Re: Border issue needs to get done! [Re: snowy] #6550070
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True. But if a hundred more people than you could accommodate invaded your house and MADE themselves at home how would you feel?

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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Why is it illegal to shoot someone who is trying to invade the country? Makes no sense, throw the military on the border and just shoot a couple illegals, would cost like 40 bucks and totally solve the problem.


How would the rest of the world view us if we start shooting refugees. Yes, a lot of these people cross the border, turn themselves in, and claim refugee status--which under our law, they are entitled to do.

Jim



Who gives a crap.............maybe we should ship them all to your area so you wiil get a clue


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Originally Posted by cheitzman
I think we are all being a little harsh. Our nation was founded by immigrants and some people fail to see that. I do agree though that the problem at the border has to be solved. Immigration needs to be put in check.



Immigrants not illegals


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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
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I think we are all being a little harsh. Our nation was founded by immigrants and some people fail to see that. I do agree though that the problem at the border has to be solved. Immigration needs to be put in check.


No, our nation was founded pioneers, they then decided to allow some immigrants in as it would benefit the nation.


after it was stole from the natives right.


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Originally Posted by Sprung&Rusty
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No, our nation was founded pioneers, they then decided to allow some immigrants in as it would benefit the nation.


after it was stole from the natives right.


It was partially conquered from the Natives during a time when it was acceptable to do so. You want to give your part of it up I am sure some Indian would be glad to take it from you.

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