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Global Warming and Illegal Aliens #6550026
06/05/19 04:20 PM
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If the the Dems want a Greener America they should consider stop illegal immigration. Please not the following, illegals make up 3.3% of America, in 2014 our carbon foot print per person was 21.5 metric tons (see link)

Real simple, stop the flow of illegals and reduce our carbon footprint.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/28/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/


There were 10.7 million unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. in 2016, representing 3.3% of the total U.S. population that year. The 2016 unauthorized immigrant total is a 13% decline from the peak of 12.2 million in 2007, when this group was 4% of the U.S. population
Six states account for 58% of unauthorized immigrants: California, Texas, Florida, New York, New Jersey and Illinois. But individual states have experienced different trends. From 2007 to 2016, the unauthorized immigrant population decreased in a dozen states: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Illinois, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York and Oregon. In three states, the unauthorized immigrant population rose over the same period: Louisiana, Maryland and Massachusetts.

https://greenliving.lovetoknow.com/What_Is_the_Average_Carbon_Footprint

The average American's carbon footprint per person in 2014 was 21.5 metric tons CO2 according to the University of Michigan. This an increase of 7% in 25 years. It remains the highest in the world since industrialization, but the picture is not uniform across the country or even within a region.

Re: Global Warming and Illegal Aliens [Re: henpecked1] #6550044
06/05/19 05:17 PM
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I don't keep track of statistics and I don't say you're wrong with these at all.
That said, the problem is that liberals ignore statistics, facts and the Constitution. Their agenda is about how does this idea make you feel and "feel good" legislation.
They are not about substantial resolutions.


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Re: Global Warming and Illegal Aliens [Re: henpecked1] #6550074
06/05/19 06:33 PM
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That and where the votes are. Illegal or it.


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Re: Global Warming and Illegal Aliens [Re: henpecked1] #6550075
06/05/19 06:35 PM
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The people that worry about carbon footprint don't give up their cars.

Re: Global Warming and Illegal Aliens [Re: henpecked1] #6550091
06/05/19 07:01 PM
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Reducing carbon, what a joke
Do you know the 3 things a plant needs to grow?
1- water
2- sunlight
3- carbon dioxide
Makes me a little angry when these payed experts say
We have to eliminate carbon dioxide
I guess you will say anything for money

Re: Global Warming and Illegal Aliens [Re: Furvor] #6550162
06/05/19 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Furvor
The people that worry about carbon footprint don't give up their cars.


Or private jets, (Nancy Pelosi), multiple homes, (Bernie Sanders)

Re: Global Warming and Illegal Aliens [Re: henpecked1] #6550203
06/05/19 10:43 PM
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There were way more than 10.7 million illegals in the USA in 2016...probably 3x that #.


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Re: Global Warming and Illegal Aliens [Re: henpecked1] #6550212
06/05/19 11:03 PM
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It has been scientifically proven by researchers from Duke University that artificially pumping extreme levels of carbon dioxide in wooded test plots significantly increases the productivity of plant growth compared to untreated plots. Not by .01%, but by up to 17% in some plants!
This indicates to me that Mother Nature always has a way to compensate for natural shifts is atmospheric makeup. She has been doing this for quite some time already.
If the imbeciles ever find a way to actually substantially reduce the C02 in our atmosphere, and come into power, what's to say that they won't destroy all of plant life by accident?

Re: Global Warming and Illegal Aliens [Re: 52Carl] #6550533
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The below may be a portion of the research from Duke U that is being referenced above.

https://nicholas.duke.edu/about/news/duke-university-begins-work-10000-acre-%E2%80%98carbon-farm%E2%80%99-eastern-nc

Interesting to me that it shows why there are such things as carbon credits which many on this forum feel are a waste. The idea of being able to farm the CO2 is a realistic and cost effective way to lower the presence. The key will be controlling the release. Also if what is stated above is accurate capturing it and forcing it into large vegetation patches really can work. If we want to increase the creation of carbon it makes sense to find ways to harvest it for future usage and value.

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Re: Global Warming and Illegal Aliens [Re: bblwi] #6550847
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Originally Posted by bblwi
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Interesting to me that it shows why there are such things as carbon credits which many on this forum feel are a waste. The idea of being able to farm the CO2 is a realistic and cost effective way to lower the presence. The key will be controlling the release. Also if what is stated above is accurate capturing it and forcing it into large vegetation patches really can work. If we want to increase the creation of carbon it makes sense to find ways to harvest it for future usage and value.

Bryce

There is one huge problem with this train of thought. Those who are espousing the end of the Earth due to human caused Co2 have no interest in actually solving the "problem". They are only interested in having issues with which to run for office.
A case in point would be the issue of gay marriage. They beat that drum so hard that the Supreme Court voted in favor legalizing it nationwide. Now they have one less issue to run on. I am absolutely certain that many democrats were not pleased with the Supreme Court for taking away a tool for securing a voting block
So what did they do? They came up with Transgenders. How is that any different than gay rights? It isn't. It is just a different word used to create a new "Issue" to run on.

Re: Global Warming and Illegal Aliens [Re: 52Carl] #6551092
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I see it another way. We are starting to see some significant private sector investment in climate change infrastructure etc. by capitalists who do want to see a return on their investment and if the politics wants to continue to wallow in the manure pit then let them as those who recognize opportunity when it arrives will do so. If they become financially successful then they too can and will lobby the politicians as is being done now and there will be a gradual in most cases and not so gradual in some areas transformation with political backing and not just yeah or nay.

Bryce

Re: Global Warming and Illegal Aliens [Re: henpecked1] #6551252
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Originally Posted by henpecked1
If the the Dems want a Greener America they should consider stop illegal immigration. Please not the following, illegals make up 3.3% of America, in 2014 our carbon foot print per person was 21.5 metric tons (see link)

Real simple, stop the flow of illegals and reduce our carbon footprint.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/28/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/


There were 10.7 million unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. in 2016, representing 3.3% of the total U.S. population that year. The 2016 unauthorized immigrant total is a 13% decline from the peak of 12.2 million in 2007, when this group was 4% of the U.S. population
Six states account for 58% of unauthorized immigrants: California, Texas, Florida, New York, New Jersey and Illinois. But individual states have experienced different trends. From 2007 to 2016, the unauthorized immigrant population decreased in a dozen states: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Illinois, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York and Oregon. In three states, the unauthorized immigrant population rose over the same period: Louisiana, Maryland and Massachusetts.

https://greenliving.lovetoknow.com/What_Is_the_Average_Carbon_Footprint

The average American's carbon footprint per person in 2014 was 21.5 metric tons CO2 according to the University of Michigan. This an increase of 7% in 25 years. It remains the highest in the world since industrialization, but the picture is not uniform across the country or even within a region.
Try selling this to AOC.

Re: Global Warming and Illegal Aliens [Re: henpecked1] #6551253
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Try selling this to AOC!

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