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Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban #6551251
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https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2019/06/05/trump-willing-consider-suppressor-ban/


President Donald Trump was elected in part due to the support he got from gun rights activists. While he didn’t have a history of legislative support for the Second Amendment, he made the right noises and had one more big thing working in his favor: He wasn’t Hillary Clinton.

However, Second Amendment supporters trusted him when he said he sided with us.

Some of us were willing to overlook the bump stock ban. After all, we were looking at bump stocks being banned either way, but at least the route Trump took ended the legislative effort that would have been more far-reaching and broad in its impact.

However, President Trump has announced his willingness to consider banning a safety device because of the Virginia Beach shooting.

President Donald Trump said he’ll “seriously look” at banning gun silencers after last week’s mass shooting in Virginia.

“Well, I’d like to think about it,” Trump said in an interview with Piers Morgan on ITV’s Good Morning Britain. “I’m going to seriously look at it.”

While Trump said he didn’t “love” the idea of a ban, he also was unhappy to see the frequency and severity of mass shootings in the U.S.

Trump’s comments represent a potential crack in Republican opposition to stronger gun control measures.

They follow a shooting last week at a municipal center in Virginia Beach, Virginia, in which a gunman killed 12 people. Police recovered a high-capacity magazine and a silencer mechanism from the scene.

Now, to be fair to the president, he’s not saying he’ll back it. He’s said no such thing.

However, even being willing to “seriously look” at such a ban is troubling.

Just think, we were so close to getting suppressors being sold over the counter like firearms. Now, a couple of years later, we have the President of the United States saying he’ll take a look at backing legislation to ban ownership of the devices.

Keep in mind that this is a technology that has been around for over a century. In that time, they’ve been used in one mass shooting. One. Further, it’s not like people in the building didn’t hear gunfire. They heard it and recognized it. There’s little to no evidence that even a single person died because of the suppressor.

Yet this is what we find ourselves talking about right now. It goes to show you how quickly the world can change.

So what are the ramifications of this?

In and of itself, not much. Trump says he’ll look at the possibility. With luck, he’ll look at it, realize there’s over a million of them in private hands and recognize what a nightmare an outright ban would create, and decide not to pursue it. Or opt not to pursue it for some other reason.

That’s the best case scenario.

However, if the president decides otherwise, we might see a problem. We know (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) good and well that the House will have no issue passing a law banning suppressors. With the president siding with the legislation, this could change things in the Senate. Some Republicans eager to curry favor with the White House, coupled with Republicans who would view the president’s backing as political cover, could sign onto such legislation. While Republicans have firm control over the Senate, it’s not so firm that a few defections couldn’t change matters completely.

In other words, if the president backs a ban, the chance of such a ban happening skyrocket.

Let’s hope he decides otherwise.

Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551254
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This is what you get when you elect a populist who happens to be conservative not a constitutional conservative.


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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551262
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I think, this is what you say when you have slim majority of the vote and you want to take a couple of fence leaners over to your side. I would guess, he has no intention of following through on any kind of ban on silencers, but it makes for great campaign press.


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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551267
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The whole silencer/suppressor thing is so misunderstood to begin with and the movies are no help! Years ago the idea of one was a fantasy today you run into people that have them often.

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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551278
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Yet, some people here act like Trump is the salvation of gun rights.

Just wait. He may well also move to ban "assault weapons" since he said he supported such a ban in his book.

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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: James] #6551294
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Originally Posted by James
Yet, some people here act like Trump is the salvation of gun rights.

Just wait. He may well also move to ban "assault weapons" since he said he supported such a ban in his book.

Jim


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Eh...wot?

Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551295
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He is not a firearms guy so he looks at this kind of thing thru "well only people who want to do bad use these"...hopefully he does not back this but if he does we have three branches of government which may not allow it to become law. Such a ban would not be a good thing...these things should be over the counter items.


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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551301
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What happened to the recent promise made by the R party that they would become untaxed and unrestricted?????????????????????????????????????????????????????

shall not be infringed seems so simple to me. you would think a staunch friend of the 2nd would be repealing gun law not looking for ways to implement more with out angering his worshippers


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: James] #6551303
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Originally Posted by James
Yet, some people here act like Trump is the salvation of gun rights.

Just wait. He may well also move to ban "assault weapons" since he said he supported such a ban in his book.

Jim



Hillary was far more trustworthy for sure! LOL crazy


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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551307
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I got a phone call yesterday evening wanting me to pledge money for the republican party. said a letter and return envelope were already mailed out and I would receive them in a day or two. guy on the phone had no answers when I asked about gun control, lock her up, Obama care and mexico will pay for it. I politely told him they would have been better off to kept the stamp money.

im tired of being lied too.


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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551309
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Hillary lost, it’s time to hold the President and the Republican Party to the fire.


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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551317
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It's just talk now but some never miss any opportunity to go there for some, of course he needs to be held to task. I just don't see why it's a problem all of a sudden not like it's a common item that is abused it make little sense seems more like a education issue?


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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: trapperkeck] #6551321
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Yes

He s gearing up for 2020.

He did the same thing with LGBT last week.


He has been the most pro life, pro Constitution, pro gun rights, pro American President we have had in over 100 years.

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Need to worry about voting out ever Democrat and RINO we can so that he actually has something to work with the next 4 years instead of getting our panties in a bunch every time he doesn't do everything or say everything we want him to!

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As far as I'm concerned

He is on fire! And if we could get him some help in 2020? He will knock it outta the ball park!

Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: warrior] #6551337
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Originally Posted by warrior
This is what you get when you elect a populist who happens to be conservative not a constitutional conservative.

This is probably the best explanation of Trump's moves. IMO though, likely just talk.


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What's the alternative Danny?...I mean in present time,..is there someone else that will listen?
Maybe one of his boys will pipe up add flavor!..in the meantime our fight is with the media,as it always is!,...the mesmerizing factor.

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Big Don may not be a gun nut, but I know one if not both sons are! He said he'll look at it not do it! Trump in 2020 and 2024!!!!!!


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I doubt much negative info could be found in statistics about the misuse of the legal ones and we all know the other ones are already illegal. Except for a few mob hits in Chicago I can't recall them being a real option for use in all my years.


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Originally Posted by Law Dog
I doubt much negative info could be found in statistics about the misuse of the legal ones and we all know the other ones are already illegal. Except for a few mob hits in Chicago I can't recall them being a real option for use in all my years.

I am not 100% positive but didn't this last shooter in Carolinas use one. Other than that I've never heard of one being used.

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