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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551513
06/08/19 08:53 AM
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I couldn't care less about homosexuality. Homosexuals have never had any impact on me at all. Either they are not attracted to me or it is easy to tell I'm not homosexual. I have no clue which, maybe both.

I do own firearms and believe in the rule of law. That is important to me. Our constitution is the cornerstone of law and if it is ignored there is no rule of law.

Religious zealots scare me worse than corrupt politicians. They have no morality, and believe themselves superior to everyone else. Their religion used to excuse all manner of evil.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551530
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Danny you do realize that the majority of the Founders were religious zealots by today's standards.
In today's world it seems that if you mention the name Jesus and voice that you follow the Bible, one is considered a religious zealot. Only those who worship the "goddess of reason" seem to get a pass.

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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: danny clifton] #6551546
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I couldn't care less about homosexuality. Homosexuals have never had any impact on me at all. Either they are not attracted to me or it is easy to tell I'm not homosexual. I have no clue which, maybe both.

I do own firearms and believe in the rule of law. That is important to me. Our constitution is the cornerstone of law and if it is ignored there is no rule of law.

Religious zealots scare me worse than corrupt politicians. They have no morality, and believe themselves superior to everyone else. Their religion used to excuse all manner of evil.


That's false!

The life style has an impact on us all. Especially once laws start being made that make it a right!!

Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551548
06/08/19 09:52 AM
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my idea of a zealot is one who writes stuff like killing muslim children is a good thing


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551550
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Back to Trump and firearms he just keeps proving he's just another liar who can not be trusted.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551554
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As far as killing anyone, unless in self-defense of self ,family, or country, I would tend to agree with your assessment Danny. Although I would just call them murderers.
Trump's willingness to ban accessories of firearms such as bumpstocks is troubling. Suppressors would also fall into this category. Hopefully he's just blowing smoke.

Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551556
06/08/19 10:11 AM
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I remember seeing a lot of "he's just blowing smoke", "he's just posturing", "he won't really do it" type comments on here back when the bumpstocks thing was first being considered, and we all saw how that turned out. Why would.we think this is any different?

Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: danny clifton] #6551572
06/08/19 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Back to Trump and firearms he just keeps proving he's just another liar who can not be trusted.


What politician can be trusted?

Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: loosegoose] #6551578
06/08/19 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
I remember seeing a lot of "he's just blowing smoke", "he's just posturing", "he won't really do it" type comments on here back when the bumpstocks thing was first being considered, and we all saw how that turned out. Why would.we think this is any different?

We don't. Unless the U.S. is willing to return to the form of government pre-1860's, all we can do is hope and vote for the best option. Now we the people could call for a convention of states and seriously shrink the bloated bureaucracy that has grown post 1865 but it seems few are willing to take on such an endeavor. Although such action could go far in reestablishing that pre-1860's form of governance.
When it pertains to the 2nd, to vote for the democrat would be a fools errand. Libertarians seem to be the democrats strongest ally. So the options are limited. Now if ever a Constitutional/Christian conservative party could/would ever take root you would find an advocate in me.

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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: ] #6551595
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We don't. Unless the U.S. is willing to return to the form of government pre-1860's, all we can do is hope and vote for the best option. Now we the people could call for a convention of states and seriously shrink the bloated bureaucracy that has grown post 1865 but it seems few are willing to take on such an endeavor. Although such action could go far in reestablishing that pre-1860's form of governance.
When it pertains to the 2nd, to vote for the democrat would be a fools errand. Libertarians seem to be the democrats strongest ally. So the options are limited. Now if ever a Constitutional/Christian conservative party could/would ever take root you would find an advocate in me. [/quote]

Look into the Constitution party. It's libertarian-ish but with a Christian twist. They're even smaller than the Libertarian party, but may.be exactly what you're looking for. Google "Constitution party platform" and give it a read. I link it but I don't know how to do it from a smartphone.

Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551602
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I'll do that loosegoose. Very disillusioned with the lack of political backbone the Republican party has. That is one thing I highly admire about Trump, even though I don't agree with him on things such as being discussed, he's willing to punch back

Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551611
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With the Virginia Beach shooting still fresh in our minds, I think the POTUS chose words wisely. Chosing words wisely is not weakness or waffling.

Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: ] #6551616
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Originally Posted by J Staton
I'll do that loosegoose. Very disillusioned with the lack of political backbone the Republican party has. That is one thing I highly admire about Trump, even though I don't agree with him on things such as being discussed, he's willing to punch back

One of Hing I do appreciate about Trump is his willingness to say what he thinks, and his brashness. Doesn't mean I always agree with it, but it is refreshing.

Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551650
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I know. He drives the left nuts....fun to watch.

Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: ] #6551918
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I know. He drives the left nuts....fun to watch.


Yep don't matter what line of smoke he blows up anyone's behind, Who he insults, flip flops, lies, how much he acts like a a junior high boy if was yours you'd slap em silly. Long as he makes liberals head explode it's all good..keep being a jack wagon!! Trump 2020.. PPPthth!

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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551958
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With all the talk of limiting the ownership of GUNS why should we care about suppressors? There is no need for them when using our guns lawfully.

Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551961
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I use my firearm lawfully. It's also nice that the surrounding population doesn't have to here it

Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551963
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I would like to quiet down some of my guns. Especially my 22 250. Deer/elk rifle just gets shot once unless something goes wrong or I'm shooting paper. My old coyote gun gets shot multiple times on a good day. I just refuse to get permission and pay a tax for something that is unregulated under Kansas law and the U.S. constitution, so I choose to do without.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551964
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Grykhk, your last sentence is false and it's not a matter of need

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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551967
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If you have to take somebody out, there is more than one silent way to do it. I'd like suppressors and silencers both.


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