Re: Methodist with back bone!
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06/08/19 01:57 PM
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Let me tell you the other side of the coin. In today's society, most people who consider themselves to be Christians don't want to REALLY here the Word. There is a very small remnant that want to hear the truth. I should know, I'm an ordained Baptist preacher that is known in this area for preaching it "straight down the row" directly from the Word. Churches in this area that have a preacher like that seldom if ever grow. Show me a church in this area that is growing by leaps and bounds and I'll show you a social club that receives weak preaching. Too many that call themselves "Christians" now days want nothing to do with the Cross, the cost of discipleship, obedient living, showing Mercy to the less fortunate or truly having a relationship with Jesus Christ. When we as a nation continue to kill millions of unborn children via abortion and make light of and even support homosexuality and adultery, how can we even think God is going to Bless us as a nation? 2 Timothy 4:1-5 ??
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Re: Methodist with back bone!
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[/quote] 2 Timothy 4:1-5 ?? Absolutely, you can see it unfolding right before our eyes!
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Re: Methodist with back bone!
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06/08/19 04:36 PM
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Let me tell you the other side of the coin. In today's society, most people who consider themselves to be Christians don't want to REALLY here the Word. There is a very small remnant that want to hear the truth. I should know, I'm an ordained Baptist preacher that is known in this area for preaching it "straight down the row" directly from the Word. Churches in this area that have a preacher like that seldom if ever grow. Show me a church in this area that is growing by leaps and bounds and I'll show you a social club that receives weak preaching. Too many that call themselves "Christians" now days want nothing to do with the Cross, the cost of discipleship, obedient living, showing Mercy to the less fortunate or truly having a relationship with Jesus Christ. When we as a nation continue to kill millions of unborn children via abortion and make light of and even support homosexuality and adultery, how can we even think God is going to Bless us as a nation? Had a pastor in your neck of the woods say one heck of a bold prayer last week I think? I don't know his denomination. But either way I was impressed with his boldness!
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Re: Methodist with back bone!
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06/08/19 10:00 PM
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I sat in churches for years under sound preaching but I was deader than a doornail inside. I repeated a prayer like I was told I should and was proclaimed saved having done so, but my life wasn't changed and I knew it. It wasn't because I wasn't in earnest because as far as I knew, I was. I expected a lightening bolt experience but it didn't come.
I sat in good churches under three different sound preachers before the Lord finally started to work in my heart. It wasn't an 'invitation' to the alter that set me on the path, it was a verse on (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). One verse got me to thinking. God got me to thinking on that one verse. That one verse got me digging. The more I dug, the more I came to realize just how lost I was. I cast about for relief, but instead of relief I got more condemnation. Every verse I read screamed hypocrite to me and it's likely one of the most vile things a human being can be. At that point in time I would have rather been born a dog.
God ground me to powder day and night until I had abandoned any and all hope in myself. I was convinced I was going to (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) but I had a strange peace about it because I knew God was just in sending me there. That's what I deserved and I was resigned to my fate. I thought there was no escaping it. I could say amen to it. That's when God was gracious to me.
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Re: Methodist with back bone!
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The Bible doesn't change only the people reading it. I am lucky to be in a SBC church who believes in preaching from the good book. Sad our "leadership" in the SBC is more concerned with attracting people than The Bible.
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Re: Methodist with back bone!
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i'm very dissappointed in organized religion anymore. Many people care more about following the direction of their organized religion than following what they know in their hearts from reading the Bible. They are much like Americans who care more about their party than The United States of America. I think it is fair to say my politics should line up with my spiritual beliefs. Of course politics are worldly so not everything will line up. Men still act like fools at times. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: Methodist with back bone!
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06/09/19 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by waggler ^^^^^^^^^ I wouldn't say that "Every Christian denomination is suffering". But it would be safe to say that most if not all of the old "mainline" denominations are suffering like you suggest. There are definitely churches that are growing; and they aren't the ones that are compromising. Many people still have a hunger for truth.
Your right!
Over all main line are suffering! Cause is watered down easy believeisim!
The one that are growing are the ones who maintain doctrine!
Just a unsolicited opinion coming your way, much like your unsolicited post. Maybe folks should be more concerned with developing a relationship with Jesus then concerning themselves with others, and just how strict their doctrine is or isn't. You nor anyone else (and I should add here I spent a lot of years studying this both formally and for personal growth) really knows jack crap abut God. You and others might think they do, but you and others do not. This is not a direct attack on you my well-meaning friend. Just another unsolicited opinion.
Blessings to you
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Re: Methodist with back bone!
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From my viewpoint it is impossible for man to wrap their mind around God. In my viewpoint there are too many that think they can use God like a tool. How can any human really think they can explain and understand God? There will be plenty that come forth and say man can, just do not think it is possible.
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Re: Methodist with back bone!
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From my viewpoint it is impossible for man to wrap their mind around God. In my viewpoint there are too many that think they can use God like a tool. How can any human really think they can explain and understand God? There will be plenty that come forth and say man can, just do not think it is possible. Long periods of time in the word and prayer will put you on the right path. He is full of mysteries which scripture says he alone knows. To say we cannot grasp God seems somewhat worldly and a completely flawed excuse to not try. His word is who and what he is. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: Methodist with back bone!
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Have any of you, who are very religious Trapperman members, ever had yourselves tested to see if you have Vesicular monoamine transporter 2, which comes from a gene that makes people religious followers?
Keith Lol, what? I don't even know if this is actually a thing? But I wouldn't doubt it in today's world! In a sense all of man kind is hard wired to "worship" and/or "follow" something! We were created by him and for him. But in our fallen state of being where we are left up to our own devices (temperaily) we follow our heart and flesh and worship the things we want to whish we could be like. Each and every one of us worship something and/or someone!
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Re: Methodist with back bone!
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Have they really identified a gene for that yet only say it pertains to the "religious"? It makes dopamine work better during activities, such as communal religious services. Basically it makes you feel good at communal religious services. Most atheists are not very happy about it. Keith
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Re: Methodist with back bone!
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06/09/19 03:32 PM
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"Long periods of time in the word and prayer will put you on the right path. He is full of mysteries which scripture says he alone knows. To say we cannot grasp God seems somewhat worldly and a completely flawed excuse to not try. His word is who and what he is. LLL"
With that solid well thought out argument (that has been used about 10 zillion times, no it is not original) you have made me see the error of my thinking and my inability to penetrate such a sound philosophy. LOL My goodness, I am grateful for such valuable insight. Thank you
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