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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: Steven 49er] #6551970
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Grykhk, your last sentence is false and it's not a matter of need


Are you saying the silencer/suppressor is an arem protected under the constitution? I don't believe they are and we are better off worrying about the things that are.

Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6551980
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Yes I do and no I don't own one


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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: gryhkl] #6551993
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Grykhk, your last sentence is false and it's not a matter of need


Are you saying the silencer/suppressor is an arem protected under the constitution? I don't believe they are and we are better off worrying about the things that are.

Magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, removable magazines, collapsible stocks, scopes, red dot sights, pistol grips, vertical foregrips, barrel shrouds, flash suppressors, etc etc aren't "arms" either, so don't worry if they get banned too? Some things are worth fighting for, so that we're not limited to cap and ball revolvers some day.

Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: gryhkl] #6552064
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Originally Posted by gryhkl
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Grykhk, your last sentence is false and it's not a matter of need


Are you saying the silencer/suppressor is an arem protected under the constitution? I don't believe they are and we are better off worrying about the things that are.


This statement is a perfect example of why liberty is disappearing. A lot of people know what is written in the Constitution, but lack (or refuse to use) the critical thinking skills about what those words actually mean.

Repeat after me...

"The 2nd Amendment restricts the government, not the citizenry."

Keep repeating until the idea is firmly rooted.

Mike


One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.

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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6552065
06/09/19 12:51 PM
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I wish suppressor had been more available in the years past. Maybe I wouldn't have permanent ringing in my ears.


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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: Mike in A-town] #6552095
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town


Are you saying the silencer/suppressor is an arem protected under the constitution? I don't believe they are and we are better off worrying about the things that are.


This statement is a perfect example of why liberty is disappearing. A lot of people know what is written in the Constitution, but lack (or refuse to use) the critical thinking skills about what those words actually mean.

Repeat after me...

"The 2nd Amendmentwhole Constitution restricts the government, not the citizenry."

Keep repeating until the idea is firmly rooted.

Mike
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Not to disagree with you! Just wanted to expand on your fact!

Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6552143
06/09/19 03:46 PM
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Thanks Brian. Good point.

Mike


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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: gryhkl] #6552415
06/09/19 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gryhkl

Are you saying the silencer/suppressor is an arem protected under the constitution? I don't believe they are and we are better off worrying about the things that are.


gryhkl ..... Lets start with a simple thing. Google or grab a dictionary and try to figure out what " shall not be infringed " means. I don't have the time or the crayons to explain it to you.

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Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6552416
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On another note. I got an email from the SC conservative party asking for donations with Trumps birthday coming up blank bla bla........ I told them that once they teach the guy what shallop not be infringed means I will only be to happy to resume with donations. Till then that tap stays shut and they will have to look for any form of support elsewhere. I do not give my money or support to people or organizations, that throw the rights of the people away.
Maybe he does not want a second term. I mean ya can't blame the guy with having to look after the greatest nut house on the continent with a bunch of senile and some vicious crackpots in there.

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Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6552462
06/10/19 05:26 AM
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The main body of the Constitution creates and empowers government.

It's the Bill of Rights and subsequent amendments that restrict government.

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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6552463
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Suppressors aren't in common use, and are not directly "arms," so may not be covered under the Second Amendment. We wouldn't know unless a court rules in an appropriate case.

Jim


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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6552464
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James they ARE legal under KS law. Right now. However unlike marijuana in Colorado the feds will prosecute. They don't prosecute for marijuana because Donny told them not to. He sure has not said that when gun law conflicts with state law.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6552485
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Next they'll ban triggers.....just an accessory anyhow

Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: James] #6552494
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Originally Posted by James
Suppressors aren't in common use, and are not directly "arms," so may not be covered under the Second Amendment. We wouldn't know unless a court rules in an appropriate case.

Jim

That's the angle I figure anti-2nd proponents will use. Suppresors are not necessary to the function of the firearm. I don't agree with it at all. However, with today's legislating from the bench, Robert's Obamacare decision as an example, it would not surprise me if such a ban was upheld.


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Re: Trump Willing To Consider Suppressor Ban [Re: BillyTraps] #6552528
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I've called this from day one. If you don't think he will trade our rights (again) for political points you are delusional.

The 2A will be attacked regardless of who wins in 2020.

Stock up!

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