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Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: Mac] #6553187
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We are called to be salt and light to the world. But the flesh rebels.
Paul wrote much of the NT to believers in the first century who were themselves "back-sliding" and so it goes.
We wish it were a light switch "off-on" process but it's not.


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Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: traprjohn] #6553206
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Originally Posted by traprjohn
According to the Bible, true Christians are the "saved" and going to Heaven who've accepted Christ as their savior.
If they TRULY did that, it changes them, in a Godly, good way. Because now Christ's Spirit has come into our lives/hearts/minds and "tends" to change our lives forever.
THOSE folks aren't usually mean, because they are now patient, compassionate, caring, etc.
Saved Christians are NOT PERFECT, only Jesus Christ was sinless and perfect.
But the saved can "backslide" of course.
The saved are NO BETTER than anyone else, only going to heaven when we die.

Societies definition of "Christian" varies greatly, and does NOT follow the Bible, and tends to start with "believing in God", etc, etc. but does NOT require Salvation, accepting the Holy Spirit into our soul.
I'd wager THOSE "Christians" are the mean ones since they are not saved...and thus NOT truly Christians.

"Christian" translates to "Christ like" to begin with so a "mean" Christian is actually an oxymoron....and although not impossible, fairly improbable.

I have been saved nearly 30 yrs and have never known a "mean" Christian...…..BUT, I've certainly known "mean" un-saved folks who claimed to be Christians.

Could not agree more.

Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: Mac] #6553210
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I'm not sure what the OP calls mean, but I know many people that go to church every Sunday, and would not be role models. I know everyone sins but if you call yourself a Christian you need to change your bad ways. Not so sure that is true for a lot of church goers.

I seen this at a church I was going too, where they were mostly concerned about membership and the collection plate. The pastor there used his title to act like God himself. Instead of working with people to come to church, he used threats that might scare you to come to church. His style wasn't for me and was to most their best friend, but it was a show, to bring people through the doors of that church. To me that was mean.

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Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: Mac] #6553212
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Let me get this straight. It is mean and not Christian like to call out or bring to light those that are dishonest or a crook? Correct?

Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: danny clifton] #6553213
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What standard are you using to call someone mean? I get so sick of hearing Christians are not to judge. That is from the deceiver. Please show me scripture. Then I will show you the book of Judges and scripture such as judge not lest you be judged. As a Christian, I am to hold my brothers accountable. Some of you need not lean on your own understanding.

Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: snowy] #6553220
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Originally Posted by snowy
I'm not sure what the OP calls mean, but I know many people that go to church every Sunday, and would not be role models. I know everyone sins but if you call yourself a Christian you need to change your bad ways. Not so sure that is true for a lot of church goers.



If you were to poll pastors/preachers, I'd wager they would say less than half the folks taking up space in the pews are truly regenerate. It's the nature of the beast.

Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: Mac] #6553231
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The last time I was in church the preacher was preaching about how the US had no business telling Saddam Hussein he shouldn't have nuclear weapons. At the time, there were 3 church members serving in the military stationed in Iraq. I left and never went back.


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Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: Mac] #6553242
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When I am called out by a brother Christian for things I have said or done that were not Christ-like, I tell them thank you. It cuts me at the time but reminds me I have brothers that love me enough to keep me in check and remind me that I have a witness that is to be used to further Christ's kingdom.

I tend to say some bad words when I get angry or frustrated. I have been called out on that and I have worked on correcting that and am actually made fun of for it. I will say things like "Good Grief" or "holy toledo" or " gosh darn" and still to this day sometimes I let some four letter words fly that I shouldn't. Most of the time it is in my car when I am by myself.

My point is, I am not nor will I ever be, perfect. I make daily mistakes and miss daily opportunities because of my fear of being seen as a "Christian". Society and the media have sewed this into the fabric of our opinions.

When I have a conversation with people, I try to throw a nugget out to them about how blessed I am. If they choose to engage I will begin any conversation about Christianity. If they do not bite, I back away and go back to everyday conversation. I engage if that person is willing and ready. I do not force my belief on anyone. The Bible tells us specifically not to do that.

I try to show the benefits of the love of GOD. I have benefitted greatly from HIS love. And I deserve none of it. My wife, family, house, job, etc.

Can someone be a good person and not be a Christian? Absolutely. Can someone be a good person and be a good Christian? Absolutely. It is a choice to follow Christ. A free choice. Yours and yours only.

Now my question to anyone who does not know the love of Christ. Give it a try? Consider, no matter where you go, there are crazy people everywhere. Christian and not. There are people at my church I want nothing to do with. Most are too fundamental in their belief and don't know how to relate to people without sounding like a zealot. Others I don't like are those who are there just to be there. Numb and dull.

Find those people that are Christian and can carry on a good conversation. I guarantee there are people you do and don't want to talk to at a Trapper's convention. Find a Christian you do want to talk with. Listen to their side and consider your own. Find a level headed, tolerant Christian. I promise there are A LOT more of those out there than the fundamentals. If you are not Christian, you will find that person if you try. Don't look down on them as you would not want them looking down on you. Give it an honest try. You won't regret it if you do.

And if any of you want to talk to me, send me a pm. I will respond. This is invitation only. I will not reach out to you. But I sit ready to talk to you anytime.


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Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: Mac] #6553260
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I don't know that Christians are any meaner than anyone else, on average. I know that most of the ones I know are anything but mean. Sometimes we have misunderstandings within the church (and I don't necessarily mean within just one denomination but the body of believers) Sometimes we get a little ticked at each other over stupid stuff, but honestly in the world at large, I see that a lot more mean non believers. Generally true Christians aren't cheating on their wives or swindling people out of money, or just being truly mean to non believers. Just because someone uses the name of Christ says nothing about who they really are. Grace is a free gift, but here's the thing: We do not know who has really accepted it. We do not really know whether a person who claims to be a believer is. The Book say the love of MOST will grow cold. Most, not a few. Fortunately we are not responsible for what another professing believer does, only for what we do. I better stop before I go into full blown preacher mode.


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Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: Scuba1] #6553264
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
Originally Posted by danny clifton
politicians and tax collectors are the most hated people in the world.

Christians remind me of charlie brown a lot. "why is everybody always pickin on me"

the meanness comes from a false sense of superiority. its that false sense of superiority that they use to justify telling everybody else how to live and who is worthy of worshipping their god



Bingo. As long as christians think that everyone who does not worship their god is " lost " and has to be shown the "right way", "or saved" etc. the so called meanness will prevail.
At least the pope hasn't beheaded them in the town square. Lately, anyway.

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Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: Mac] #6553309
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Well Mac- what's going on?


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Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: Mac] #6553344
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There has only been one perfect man to walk on the earth. The world couldn't wait to kill him and have him gone.

Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: Law Dog] #6553484
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
If they are mean are they really Christians then? If I stand in a garage that does not make me a car! LOL


Just like going to church doesn't necessarily make you a Christian either.


Right now there is a 30 year old living in his mom's basement calling our billionaire president a loser.
Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: Mac] #6553490
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At least Christians don't kill you for not being a Christian.

I know a lot of Christians who behave like Christians should; give to the poor, go out of their way to help people, etc. But, those who are experts at criticizing people they hate only seek out the bad in people, particularly those professing to be Christians. Those are the ones with the real meanness living in them.


Right now there is a 30 year old living in his mom's basement calling our billionaire president a loser.
Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: Mac] #6553539
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Too many phoney "Christians" around here for me. They all go to church on sundays, because it makes them look good and lie, cheat and screw everyone 6 days a week. It is so obvious, it just makes me sick. Around here if someone announces they are a "Christian", they are usually hiding something. Too many lies, and phoniesss for me to handle, so I do my own thing, and avoid them. I know what I believe, and that is all that matters.

Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: Trapper7] #6553548
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
At least Christians don't kill you for not being a Christian.

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Yes it got a bit out of hand and these days it is frowned upon and in most places even illegal


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Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: Mac] #6553560
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I encounter a lot of anger when I tell people I don't believe what is written in the bible.


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Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: danny clifton] #6553626
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
I encounter a lot of anger when I tell people I don't believe what is written in the bible.


I used to as well. Not anymore though. My PC gland is on the fritz and now I am apparently intimidating on that subject, so they leave me alone.


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Re: Why are Christians so mean? [Re: Scuba1] #6553644
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
they leave me alone.


it would be nice if non-Christians extended the same courtesy.

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non christians come to your door proselytizing?


Its time to end political parties
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