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Re: Spring honey [Re: Matt28] #6553197
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Thanks Warrior, for the explanation. I love good quality pure honey.

Re: Spring honey [Re: Matt28] #6553252
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People laugh at me until they see my track record...I donít have allergies or get sick. I eat local honey daily. Whether itís on something or 2 tablespoons straight outa the jug. I even use it as a sweetener. Iíve even had some shipped from other states I hunt. Seen my buddies hit the Midwest during Spring turkey season and all of a sudden be congested as all get out...Iíll be just fine. It may be all in my head, but I truly believe honey helps.

Re: Spring honey [Re: Matt28] #6553287
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I give a guy a few bottles a year that eats 1 table spoon a day and swears he has no allergies now.

Re: Spring honey [Re: Matt28] #6553290
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nice work!!


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Re: Spring honey [Re: Matt28] #6553291
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Send it all to me. Lol My guy is out and it will be a month. Stopped using Sugar months ago and switched to honey.

Re: Spring honey [Re: Matt28] #6553304
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Thanks warrior! Iím tempted to buy some different honeys now to taste test!


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Re: Spring honey [Re: Matt28] #6553307
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We built and powdercoated a trail for a guy who has a lot of hives and he brought every one at work a bottle of honey to say thanks. I didn't think much of it and didn't taste it till a few weeks later, it was the best honey I had ever had. Tastes like oranges, I couldn't believe it.

Re: Spring honey [Re: Jurassic Park] #6553315
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Thanks warrior! Iím tempted to buy some different honeys now to taste test!


I got some bitterweed going cheap. LOL

You got to try tupelo, the real tupelo the Florida panhandle. It tastes like butter.

Re: Spring honey [Re: Matt28] #6553368
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I like Manuka honey. I also like thistle honey.

Re: Spring honey [Re: Matt28] #6553372
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The one I want to try is heather honey from the Scottish highlands. It's thixotropic or a solid at rest but a liquid when stirred. You cannot pour this honey from a jar unless you stir it well first. It can not be extracted from the comb via conventional means it must be pressed from the comb.

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Originally Posted by warrior
The one I want to try is heather honey from the Scottish highlands. It's thixotropic or a solid at rest but a liquid when stirred. You cannot pour this honey from a jar unless you stir it well first. It can not be extracted from the comb via conventional means it must be pressed from the comb.

How do you go about getting some of that?

Re: Spring honey [Re: run] #6553375
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Originally Posted by run
I like Manuka honey. I also like thistle honey.

Every one kills the thistle around me so it's hard to get that in the hive.

Re: Spring honey [Re: Matt28] #6553376
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Originally Posted by Matt28
Originally Posted by warrior
The one I want to try is heather honey from the Scottish highlands. It's thixotropic or a solid at rest but a liquid when stirred. You cannot pour this honey from a jar unless you stir it well first. It can not be extracted from the comb via conventional means it must be pressed from the comb.

How do you go about getting some of that?



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Re: Spring honey [Re: Matt28] #6553385
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Locust honey is my favorite here, but I haven't tastes any I didn't like in the 30+ years we've had bees on our farm



Re: Spring honey [Re: RM trapper] #6553421
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Originally Posted by RM trapper
Locust honey is my favorite here, but I haven't tastes any I didn't like in the 30+ years we've had bees on our farm

Do y'all have just langstroth hives or do you have some top bar too. I am wanting to try the top bar mostly for honey comb and just because I like to try new things.

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Yea Matt we have some top bar, I'll try to take some pics later and post. My uncle has always built all of ours, but most are langsworth style



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Originally Posted by RM trapper
Yea Matt we have some top bar, I'll try to take some pics later and post. My uncle has always built all of ours, but most are langsworth style

Nice! Yes please get pics. I like seeing how other are set up.

Re: Spring honey [Re: warrior] #6553478
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Nothing but bad luck this year. Purchased a package of bee mid April. Nice queen but two weeks later no egg and no queen. Purchased a queen put her in with the bee still in the cage and the next day dead. I went to the Amish dealer where I got the queen and he had none left so he gave me a frame of bees with fresh eggs in hopes they would make a queen. no luck. Do have a laying worker so plenty of drones just no queen yet. So there goes $120.00 down the drain. What to do NOW? Any suggestions?


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Re: Spring honey [Re: Birdman382] #6553500
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Originally Posted by Birdman382
Nothing but bad luck this year. Purchased a package of bee mid April. Nice queen but two weeks later no egg and no queen. Purchased a queen put her in with the bee still in the cage and the next day dead. I went to the Amish dealer where I got the queen and he had none left so he gave me a frame of bees with fresh eggs in hopes they would make a queen. no luck. Do have a laying worker so plenty of drones just no queen yet. So there goes $120.00 down the drain. What to do NOW? Any suggestions?


Combine with a strong queenright colony. This is why it's best to start with two colonies.
Laying worker can be corrected but by time is all said and done you're better off taking your loss and doing the combine.

To turn it around you need open brood as open brood produces pheromones that work in conjunction with queen pheromone to keep workers ovaries suppressed. Each week take the laying worker colony 200-300 feet away and shake out every bee. This is an attempt to separate the laying workers (note plural) which supposedly are not flighted while the rest fly home. Return the hive to it's original location and add at least one frame of open brood. Repeat weekly until they draw a queen cell with provided brood frame.

I've turned a few around over the years this way but almost invariably I've done so by stripping other colonies of brood while the one I'm tryin save ends up to weak to be worth saving.

Re: Spring honey [Re: Matt28] #6553653
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My first package swarmed and turned into a laying worker. I had a laying queen shipped in but it was too late. They did accept her but she wouldn't lay and absconded two weeks later.

All those drones are full of mites I bet. I dont think I would even combine them if it ever happened to me again.

Its not a total loss you have comb and that's gold. Still enough time to restart a Nuc or package if you can find it. Don't beat yourself up too bad. Beekeeping is very hard to jump into without a mentor, but it does get easier as you gain more experience.

Good luck.

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