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Weed is legal but wolves are not? #6554236
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I was watching a video about the impact of wolves in Idaho and one of the comments struck me. The basic idea was questioning if states could pass laws to legalize marijuana that go against federal regulations, why couldn't they do the same with wolf harvest?

What's stopping Wisconsin or Minnesota from "decriminalizing" wolf harvest? Can someone more knowledgeable about the subject help me understand? It seems like some states are ok defying the feds on some issues but not others.

Re: Weed is legal but wolves are not? [Re: tlguy] #6554238
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The libtards think they can enforce whatever laws they agree with and just ignore those they don't.


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Re: Weed is legal but wolves are not? [Re: tlguy] #6554240
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Because there are way more potheads elected than wolf haters.


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Re: Weed is legal but wolves are not? [Re: tlguy] #6554250
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Why can Colorado legalize pot, but Kansas cannot legalize suppressors? More harm has come to people from the use of pot than have been harmed because of suppressors.

THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is a FACT.




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Re: Weed is legal but wolves are not? [Re: bowhunter27295] #6554253
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Oh, boy!! Wait til the militant pot smokers read this!! Popcorn anyone?



They can kiss my.... Oh never mind. I don't want them anywhere near me.




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Re: Weed is legal but wolves are not? [Re: tlguy] #6554257
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It goes both ways. Liberals and Conservatives both do some shady business. Conservatives hate aboriginal rights. And I vote Conservative.


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Re: Weed is legal but wolves are not? [Re: tlguy] #6554540
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The DNR gets lots of Dingle Johnson and Pitman Robertson funds from the feds. Lots. Could be they don't want to jeopardize that source of money if they challenged that law. We all contribute to that pot of money. It is Congress that is the hold up, not the Minnesota or Wisconsin DNR. If not for the Fed. law, it would be the states that lack the courage to follow the science.

Re: Weed is legal but wolves are not? [Re: chas3457] #6554546
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Originally Posted by chas3457
Why can Colorado legalize pot, but Kansas cannot legalize suppressors? More harm has come to people from the use of pot than have been harmed because of suppressors.

THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is a FACT.




Charlie


It doesn't matter what they "legalize" at the state level. The federal law still trumps it all if/when they decide to enforce it. Doesn't matter whether it's wolves or dope


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Re: Weed is legal but wolves are not? [Re: tlguy] #6554551
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I'm familiar with PR/DJ funds, but I don't think that's it. If that was the case, the states that have legalized marijuana would be jeopardizing federal funding as well, and to my knowledge, that isn't the case, though I could be wrong. I think revenue has a lot to do with it. The potential for millions of dollars in taxes on marijuana versus tens of thousands earned from wolf hunting and trapping.

I know the MN governor has come out and said he didnt see a need for recreational wolf harvest if they ever got delisted back when the MN House passed legislation to ban wolf harvest before it got shot down by the Senate. Not sure what stance Evers will take on the subject if and when the time comes.

Re: Weed is legal but wolves are not? [Re: tlguy] #6554552
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I haven't been harmed by pot... anyway, I don't see a problem with either. I think it may be a lack of the public's education of conservation ecology that is the issue there. Weed and wolves have nothing in common LOL

Except, I guess, that nature made them both.

Re: Weed is legal but wolves are not? [Re: tlguy] #6554553
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The similarity is that both are regulated on a national level by the federal legislation, yet states have enacted laws to directly defy federal regulations when it comes to marijuana, so why not take the same approach to harvesting wolves.

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Re: Weed is legal but wolves are not? [Re: tlguy] #6554554
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Re: Weed is legal but wolves are not? [Re: tlguy] #6554557
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Possibly because a lot of the pot heads will also not support consumptive harvest of wolves


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Re: Weed is legal but wolves are not? [Re: tlguy] #6554569
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I'm sure it could work.. though most folks are against killing things, even for good reason.

Unless it's cows or whatever lmao

Re: Weed is legal but wolves are not? [Re: tlguy] #6554587
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I would say its because the cannabis users have more ambition to change regulations than wolf hunters, and trappers do.
Perhaps you all should all put down your beer, get out, and start a petition get signatures to put it on the ballet, and change the local laws like they successfully did with cannabis.

Re: Weed is legal but wolves are not? [Re: tlguy] #6554744
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Originally Posted by tlguy
I was watching a video about the impact of wolves in Idaho and one of the comments struck me. The basic idea was questioning if states could pass laws to legalize marijuana that go against federal regulations, why couldn't they do the same with wolf harvest?

What's stopping Wisconsin or Minnesota from "decriminalizing" wolf harvest? Can someone more knowledgeable about the subject help me understand? It seems like some states are ok defying the feds on some issues but not others.



well so far it has been nothing but hypocrisy in the pot vs suppressors enforcement.

if there are people willing to be the test case , the state has nothing to loose in the process , every state should be finding everything they can to test the Fed on states rights issues.

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Re: Weed is legal but wolves are not? [Re: chas3457] #6554786
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Originally Posted by chas3457
Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
Oh, boy!! Wait til the militant pot smokers read this!! Popcorn anyone?



They can kiss my.... Oh never mind. I don't want them anywhere near me.




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Re: Weed is legal but wolves are not? [Re: 160user] #6554811
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Originally Posted by 160user
Because there are way more potheads elected than wolf haters.


Exactly! You beat me to it!
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Re: Weed is legal but wolves are not? [Re: tlguy] #6554879
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Wisconsin state has no authority to enforce the federal law pertaining to wolves. In fact the DNR has told the Feds that they are no longer going to chase down wolf violators or investigate wolf killings. This is in regards to the Feds not allowing the state to manage the wolf as they see fit.

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