No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Re: My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper [Re: yukonjeff] #6556728
06/16/19 09:49 AM
06/16/19 09:49 AM
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 13,155
Ky
J
jbyrd63 Online content
trapper
jbyrd63  Online Content
trapper
J

Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 13,155
Ky
Originally Posted by yukonjeff
I would say it is a tool of some sort. They didn't make all their tools napped real fancy,most of the time it just needed to be functional. Most here look like plain rocks unless you know what your looking at.

Some examples I found on my land.

[Linked Image]


DANG I have a gold mine around my shrubs !!!!

If those are all native tools then I'm a millionaire . Got a dump trucks full of those "tools" around my house and lain into the wall on my garage. And to think all these years we called them river stone. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Those little round ones in that bowl looking thing we call pea gravel and buy them by the ton. Those big ones could be used for a hammer . Oh yea anyone want to buy the tool David used to kill Goliath !!!! Got some ancient artifacts I will sell for near nothing. !!!!!

Last edited by jbyrd63; 06/16/19 09:52 AM.
Re: My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper [Re: KeithC] #6556764
06/16/19 10:32 AM
06/16/19 10:32 AM
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 4,497
PA
P
PAskinner Offline
trapper
PAskinner  Offline
trapper
P

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 4,497
PA
I'm not saying that it could not be used for fleshing. It just seems a very inefficient way to go about it. The northern tribes use a narrow log upright and use a split moose leg bone to flesh and grain. Buffalo are a different story, when done with the hair on. They have to be worked and thinned from the flesh side, so they use the jagged end of the bone on a staked out hide. A good stone could possibly have been then used for thinning the hide. My experience is that it makes a scored surface, compared to smoother with a steel blade.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper [Re: Boco] #6556767
06/16/19 10:34 AM
06/16/19 10:34 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 63,114
Minnesota
330-Trapper Offline

trapper
330-Trapper  Offline

trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 63,114
Minnesota
Originally Posted by Boco
That's just an old busted rock.

grin


NRA and NTA Life Member
www.BackroadsRevised@etsy.com




Re: My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper [Re: KeithC] #6556837
06/16/19 12:52 PM
06/16/19 12:52 PM
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 13,155
Ky
J
jbyrd63 Online content
trapper
jbyrd63  Online Content
trapper
J

Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 13,155
Ky
Let my 7 and 4 year old granddaughters out in the yard this afternoon and they brought me in some native tools. If you close one eye and squint the other you can see that the sharp one could have been used to castrate sasquatch. The other ones I think they put in their stew pots to keep them from boiling over. I will let them go for 100 bucks each to the first 15 messengers ( got several more from the same place)

Get them while they last !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Linked Image]

Re: My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper [Re: KeithC] #6556849
06/16/19 01:08 PM
06/16/19 01:08 PM
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,716
SW Pa
W
wr otis Offline
trapper
wr otis  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,716
SW Pa
I doubt they were scraping hides 24 hrs a day 365 days a year. Probably a lot of what they were doing with tools would not be our first guess, which inevitably is scraping hides. They were making basketry, weaving fabrics of one base or another, eating things other than 100 percent meat, erecting and maintaining housing. Lots and lots of everyday jobs that had nothing to do with what our first assumption always seems to be.

I find river rock here, somebody carried it here long ways here. Same with good flint/chert, good stuff is mainly flint ridge or coshocton Ohio both a hundred miles west.

There would have to have been large populations here very early, the chert distribution I don't think could happen other wise. To think that a couple guys could travel a hundred miles west of here, thru the wilderness to a ridge that bears flint, by memory and on foot, just seems implausible or highly unlikely. Sure it could occur and probably did, but they couldn't have walked a hundred miles west everytime they ran low on material. Maybe they brought a hundred pounds of chert back with them every time, but it sure seems impractical as a long term strategy.

Re: My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper [Re: KeithC] #6556850
06/16/19 01:09 PM
06/16/19 01:09 PM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 45,514
james bay frontierOnt.
B
Boco Offline
trapper
Boco  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 45,514
james bay frontierOnt.
Just think of all the tools they would have had if they found a rock crusher.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper [Re: KeithC] #6556861
06/16/19 01:25 PM
06/16/19 01:25 PM
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,716
SW Pa
W
wr otis Offline
trapper
wr otis  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,716
SW Pa
They were experts in woodsmanship and survival, they knew everything they needed to know. They must have had an intensive knowledge of medicinal plants and medicine in general. They didn't survive over ten thousand plus years without a vast knowledge of their surroundings and environmental conditions. These were modern humans, basically exactly like us, especially in mental capacities. As smart as us, probably considerably stronger than us, and definetly more in tune with the environment than us.

Re: My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper [Re: KeithC] #6556899
06/16/19 02:08 PM
06/16/19 02:08 PM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 45,514
james bay frontierOnt.
B
Boco Offline
trapper
Boco  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 45,514
james bay frontierOnt.
North American native peoples had plant based treatments for all kinds of ailments,afflictions and injurys.
I have a fairly good list of the different kinds of plants used by different tribes for each ailment/application.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper [Re: KeithC] #6557555
06/17/19 02:12 PM
06/17/19 02:12 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,213
central Missouri
B
Bigfoot Offline
trapper
Bigfoot  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,213
central Missouri
A huge part of their diet was plant base they spent a lot of time digging roots and cutting greens

Page 2 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread