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Must be nice to be rich.... #6556819
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The Obamas are vacationing in southeastern France...thankfully 10 hours by car from me... and they no doubt deserve it from working so hard. The property they are renting is owned by an American Mormon couple and goes for $58,000 a week. In fact they started a business in France that has an annual revenue of two weeks rent.

Funny thing is the guy who owns the place was the finance guy for Mitt Romney.

The French government is spending 55,000 Euros in security. I don't want to think how much we are spending.

I liked it better when Reagan went to his ranch in CA, Carter went back to Plains, and the Bush's went back to Crawford, TX for their vacations.

That's all from the eastern front.

Pete

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Him and her are corrupt to the marrow of their bones ,On his salary he became a multi multi millionaire.If you are one that believes he was a good honest man .I do feel pity for you.


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Originally Posted by Snowpa
I do feel pity for you.


I have no pity for the guy who looks like he is living the dream in a beautiful country!

I see a swift thread, I click swift thread, nice to see someone reporting in from Europe.

Re: Must be nice to be rich.... [Re: swift4me] #6556856
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It ain't bad, better than having a lot of money.


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Re: Must be nice to be rich.... [Re: swift4me] #6556858
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The guy was stressed out for 8 years,let him relax.


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Originally Posted by swift4me


I liked it better when Reagan went to his ranch in CA, Carter went back to Plains, and the Bush's went back to Crawford, TX for their vacations.



Pete



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Dare I say that's back when I had absolute respect for the office of President of the United States and those who held it.

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Originally Posted by Boco
The guy was stressed out for 8 years,let him relax.


So were we ! Still are ...

I’m with you, Donner. I love Pete’s posts.


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Re: Must be nice to be rich.... [Re: swift4me] #6556870
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He should be brought back to America in chains, put on trial for treason, subversion and sedition for payment to Iran, crimes against the current administration, the fast and furious and that's JUST FOR STARTERS! Not even getting into crimes he committed against private citizens. Then be put in prison for the rest of his life (I'm being kind here). PERIOD! He is an evil, despicable, lowlife POS.

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Originally Posted by Finster
He should be brought back to America in chains, put on trial for treason, subversion and sedition for payment to Iran, crimes against the current administration, the fast and furious and that's JUST FOR STARTERS! Not even getting into crimes he committed against private citizens. Then be put in prison for the rest of his life (I'm being kind here). PERIOD! He is an evil, despicable, lowlife POS.

Agreed, same goes to his spouse Michael.


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The European media has made the Clintons and the Obamas to seem like the Kennedys. Camelot.

So sad. I explain the truth often at dinner parties and the golf course but my Basque neighbors at the farm already get it. Life is easy in a socialist country if you have a better job.

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Being so this thread will get axed I'll ask this. The governor of Ill is still in prison for selling his senate seat when he got elected president, does any body think this was the first time it came up for sale?

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What I hate the most about obama was that he was in a position to deal a serious blow to racism in the US and instead chose to fan the flames of hate to a higher level. Instead of saying the inflammatory statement, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon." obama should of said something like" There has been racial tension in our country for far to long, but as evidenced by my own election, most Americans have moved on and we will continue to move on together, into a brighter future, where race won't matter. Martin Luther King's dream that we will not be judged by the color of our skin, but by the content of our character, will be realised."

If obama had spoken up like that, when race was dividing our country, even with his numerous other mistakes, he still would have been a good president, overall, rather than a divisive and terrible president.

Keith

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Donald Trump’s family’s trips have cost taxpayers nearly as much in a month as Barack Obama’s cost in an entire year.

The US President’s three visits to his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida since his presidential inauguration, combined with his sons’ business trips, reportedly cost $11.3m (£9.1m).

Conservative watchdog Judicial Watch estimated Mr Obama’s travel expenses totalled an average $12.1m in each of his eight years in the White House


And this was all as of Feb 2017!!!

This kind of stuff, whether the Omabas or the trumps, needs to come to and end. And trumps trip to florida cost tens of thousands to the local taxpayers too.

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Originally Posted by Finster
He should be brought back to America in chains, put on trial for treason, subversion and sedition for payment to Iran, crimes against the current administration, the fast and furious and that's JUST FOR STARTERS! Not even getting into crimes he committed against private citizens. Then be put in prison for the rest of his life (I'm being kind here). PERIOD! He is an evil, despicable, lowlife POS.


Wow fin, you gotta really hate the acts of the guy in the white house now. I think everyone should wait until he leave office before locking him up, impeachment is a waste of time.

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I am all for Obama taking trips far far away from America. At least he's not here spreading his lies and garbage policies to the American people anymore. He just needs to go away........far far away.... and shut up. Maybe then our country has a chance to start to unify! Ok..... rant over!


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Thank goodness he doesn't tweet like some.

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Obama wasn't all that bad, at least he brought out all the anti-Americans.


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The difference is that a high percentage of the Trump's family member trips entail government business. 4 out of the 5 Trump children are adults. 3 of the 5 children and 1 son in law, are active in the administration. Most of the cost of travel for presidential families is from the salaries of Secret Service and local security personnel and other staff, who go on and plan the trips. The Trump children should of course should incur much, much greater travel expenses than the minor, non-working children obama had. The fact that the obama's travel expenses, with their 2 minor, nonworking children and no grandchildren were fairly similar to the travel expenses of Trump's 5 children, their spouses and 9 grandchildren, is proof that the obamas abused the system.

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Well he certainly has made the white house the site of his family business.

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Originally Posted by teepee2
Being so this thread will get axed I'll ask this. The governor of Ill is still in prison for selling his senate seat when he got elected president, does any body think this was the first time it came up for sale?


Well we tried selling CDL's all over the U.S. and after the chickens came home to roost, what was we supposed to do for income. So someone got the great idea to sell some property so just sell a senate seat. Aren't they kinda just like a seat on the exchanges. But to answer your question, maybe Obama didn't have to sell his seat, maybe he was getting hot cattle tips from Hilary and making more than just chicken feed. Best tip back in those days was to get a broker to give you winners and his lesser clients the losers. Thank God for electronic trading, at least dealing with the bulls and bears is a little easier now that the hogs aren't playing the old schemes.

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He's all yours Pete you can have him, he's kind of like a spoon with a hole in it!


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The security detail for him should not have to go abroad. On American soil ... I guess its what every ex president gets. But if he want to jet his lying (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) around the globe. He can pay for security out of his own ill gotten millions. Just my 2 cents


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Originally Posted by gryhkl
Well he certainly has made the white house the site of his family business.


In what way?

There is nothing wrong with having a dissenting opinion, but when it's based on misinformation, faulty comparisons and just raw animosity, you should start questioning why you hold that dissenting opinion in the first place.

Keith

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Am I correct that President Trump has waived his 1/4 million dollar salary, or whatever it is per year and donates it to what he thinks is a charity or good cause?
I know that he spends time in Florida at a facility he owns. Perhaps someone has info on what he charges for that.

Zim

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Presidential salary is paltry compared to business world, and yet all these people end up filthy rich.

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Originally Posted by Zim
Am I correct that President Trump has waived his 1/4 million dollar salary, or whatever it is per year and donates it to what he thinks is a charity or good cause?
I know that he spends time in Florida at a facility he owns. Perhaps someone has info on what he charges for that.

Zim


President Donald Trump does donate his entire salary to charity.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-obama-salary-donations/

obama did not donate his salary.

The secret service does pay for rooms at Mar-ALargo for some agents, who are protecting the president, as they would at any other hotel the president stays at. Most of the agents, according to liberal bastion NPR, are housed elsewhere.

Keith

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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by gryhkl
Well he certainly has made the white house the site of his family business.


In what way?

There is nothing wrong with having a dissenting opinion, but when it's based on misinformation, faulty comparisons and just raw animosity, you should start questioning why you hold that dissenting opinion in the first place.

Keith

You could start by looking at things like:

We can start with the truly big money. Forbes' Dan Alexander and Matt Drange estimated last month that Trump rakes in at least $175 million annually from commercial tenants like the state-owned Industrial & Commercial Bank of China. Which companies specifically and how much money exactly? It's impossible to say because federal disclosure laws don't require an accounting of where his businesses get their money. This was not a problem with previous presidents, who divested themselves and disclosed. Trump on the other hand does nothing more than the minimum legally required. Not knowing who's paying the president how much money? That seems like it might be a problem. "Take any hot-button issue of the past year, and there's a good chance Trump's tenants lobbied the federal government on it, either in support of or in opposition to the administration's position," Forbes noted, adding that at least three dozen known Trump tenants have "meaningful relationships with the federal government, from contractors to lobbying firms to regulatory targets." In one case, even the federal government is paying rent to the president.

And that's just one avenue for filling the Trump-branded, solid gold trough. Foreign governments have been quick to figure out how to stay on the president's good side. They've "donated public land, approved permits and eased environmental regulations for Trump-branded developments, creating a slew of potential conflicts as foreign leaders make investments that can be seen as gifts or attempts to gain access to the American president through his sprawling business empire," McClatchy's Anita Kumar reported in January. The Chinese government has granted Trump at least 39 trademarks, some of which had been previously rejected, since he took office; Ivanka Trump, the president's daughter and senior adviser, has also gotten at least seven since she joined the administration. It's good to be the king or in the royal family.


It's from USNews. When it comes to putting himself above the good of the country, no president compares to this guy. I voted for him the first time, I will vote for anyone but him or one of the wacky dems who are fighting it out for that party's nomination. Micky mouse may win in 2020.

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Originally Posted by KeithC


In what way?

There is nothing wrong with having a dissenting opinion, but when it's based on misinformation, faulty comparisons and just raw animosity, you should start questioning why you hold that dissenting opinion in the first place.

Keith

You could start by looking at things like:

We can start with the truly big money. Forbes' Dan Alexander and Matt Drange estimated last month that Trump rakes in at least $175 million annually from commercial tenants like the state-owned Industrial & Commercial Bank of China. Which companies specifically and how much money exactly? It's impossible to say because federal disclosure laws don't require an accounting of where his businesses get their money. This was not a problem with previous presidents, who divested themselves and disclosed. Trump on the other hand does nothing more than the minimum legally required. Not knowing who's paying the president how much money? That seems like it might be a problem. "Take any hot-button issue of the past year, and there's a good chance Trump's tenants lobbied the federal government on it, either in support of or in opposition to the administration's position," Forbes noted, adding that at least three dozen known Trump tenants have "meaningful relationships with the federal government, from contractors to lobbying firms to regulatory targets." In one case, even the federal government is paying rent to the president.

And that's just one avenue for filling the Trump-branded, solid gold trough. Foreign governments have been quick to figure out how to stay on the president's good side. They've "donated public land, approved permits and eased environmental regulations for Trump-branded developments, creating a slew of potential conflicts as foreign leaders make investments that can be seen as gifts or attempts to gain access to the American president through his sprawling business empire," McClatchy's Anita Kumar reported in January. The Chinese government has granted Trump at least 39 trademarks, some of which had been previously rejected, since he took office; Ivanka Trump, the president's daughter and senior adviser, has also gotten at least seven since she joined the administration. It's good to be the king or in the royal family.


It's from USNews. When it comes to putting himself above the good of the country, no president compares to this guy. I voted for him the first time, I will vote for anyone but him or one of the wacky dems who are fighting it out for that party's nomination. Micky mouse may win in 2020.



The ambiguous phrase the liberal media uses in your quote to trick the gullible and undiscerning is "from commercial tenants like the state-owned Industrial & Commercial Bank of China." First off the phrase does not even mean the commercial Bank of China is a tenant. You can't tell from the quote. Second there is no definition of what they consider to be a similar commercial tenant. It's left to the reader's imagination what they mean. Third they don't even bother to list the name of a commercial tenant, except maybe the Bank of China.

Also how do the Forbes' writers even come up with their estimate? Were they fact checked?

Of course other countries are going to seek to influence our president. That does not make our president corrupt. From the tariffs Trump has imposed on China, it sure not appear their attempt to buy his influence has worked.

President Donald Trump's Blind Trust is managing his assets. He appears to be fully engaged in putting America first to me.

Keith

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The only thing Trump brought to office with him is the continued jealousy of his past business's practices that made him his funds. Don't know why any politician would challenge that with their millions they make in such a short time almost getting to be ripped from them now !
That and his way of speaking his mind which people can't seem to understand that everyone is entitled to !

If you think this country is being run into the ground since he has become the President your only listening to Obama's fans spreading more fiction about Big O having set every thing up which is another crock of crap !!


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Longest economic growth in history we are experiencing-120 months. How long has trump been in office? I'm really glad he has kept thing rolling.

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What Finster said , x2

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Originally Posted by gryhkl
Longest economic growth in history we are experiencing-120 months. How long has trump been in office? I'm really glad he has kept thing rolling.


The main reason the economy improved during the obama administration was that the economy was rebounding from the Financial Crisis of 2007-2008. Growth during the obama administration was very slow. Look up the growth rates. The economy would likely have rebounded better under almost any other US President, except carter.

Growth during the Trump administration has been very fast. Faster than any other president. Unemployment for minorities is at the lowest rate ever in the US. Under Trump, economic growth has been higher than obama said would ever be possible again, because of President Trump's fiscal and trade policies.

President Donald Trump has not just kept the economy rolling. Trump has greatly sped up our economies growth.

Keith

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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by gryhkl
Longest economic growth in history we are experiencing-120 months. How long has trump been in office? I'm really glad he has kept thing rolling.


The main reason the economy improved during the obama administration was that the economy was rebounding from the Financial Crisis of 2007-2008. Growth during the obama administration was very slow. Look up the growth rates. The economy would likely have rebounded better under almost any other US President, except carter.

Growth during the Trump administration has been very fast. Faster than any other president. Unemployment for minorities is at the lowest rate ever in the US. Under Trump, economic growth has been higher than obama said would ever be possible again, because of President Trump's fiscal and trade policies.

President Donald Trump has not just kept the economy rolling. Trump has greatly sped up our economies growth.

Keith


Kieth, brother... normally I see where you are coming from, but what's been so great as far as jobs creation goes ??
What jobs, where ??

Every time I turn around, another manufacturing plant is being closed - be it automotive, aviation [Coatsville PA closing by end of this year, they produced S-76 and S92 helicopters,and I seem to recall that some U.T.C. plant [...maybe Carrier ??] out in the mid west is either closing or closed after being told no work would be sent to Mexico [*which in fact is what happened]... and reading this months Hobby Farms, they discuss the decline of the American Farmers, I mean... It's like Trump talks a good line - but then in retrospect, it seems things don't go exactly as he states.

Don't get me wrong I was glad he won, but would I vote for him again ??

No way... because I'm watching our nations deficit skyrocket out of control, and I'm getting sick of that.

I sincerely worry about what it will be like 10, 15... 20 years from now here in the States...............

I definately don't see things improving no matter who is steering the ship, because the ultra rich call the shots, whether we choose to admit it or not, and they do not have the American people's best interests at heart.

Personally, I feel cheated - but then again, I've felt cheated ever since 1992 or so...................

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We are getting far off topic from Pete's original post.

The US unemployment rate is the lowest it's been since 1969.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...-unemployment-fell-percent-lowest-since/

There are currently more jobs than there are people out of work in the US.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/05/there-are-more-jobs-than-people-out-of-work.html

President Donald Trump has slown the loss of manufacturing jobs nationwide and brought some manufacturing jobs back to the US. Not all areas of the country are improving, in part because of technology eliminating jobs, local governments that don't work with or attract businesses and just bad luck.

People will always have to move to where the jobs are. Not all people are employable and most people are not employable for most jobs.

Government can help or hurt unemployment. Look how ocassio cortez prevented Amazon from helping her district and how gun manufacturers are being driven out of liberal states.

No president will ever be perfect or be able to help all Americans. Overall, President Donald Trump has been good for most Americans, who are willing to work.

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Originally Posted by KeithC
We are getting far off topic from Pete's original post.



Keith


Yes, I suppose you are right about that... sincere apologies... too much brew while outside in my garden earlier tonight with the dog....


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Originally Posted by Big George W
Originally Posted by KeithC
We are getting far off topic from Pete's original post.



Keith


Yes, I suppose you are right about that... sincere apologies... too much brew while outside in my garden earlier tonight with the dog....



I pushed us further off course than you did.

It would be nice to afford a French vacation, or to have the help to get off the farm for any vacation. The Basque region of France appears beautiful and interesting in Pete's posts and pictures.

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Kieth, brother... normally I see where you are coming from, but what's been so great as far as jobs creation goes ??
What jobs, where ??

Every time I turn around, another manufacturing plant is being closed - be it automotive, aviation [Coatsville PA closing by end of this year, they produced S-76 and S92 helicopters,and I seem to recall that some U.T.C. plant [...maybe Carrier ??] out in the mid west is either closing or closed after being told no work would be sent to Mexico [*which in fact is what happened]... and reading this months Hobby Farms, they discuss the decline of the American Farmers, I mean... It's like Trump talks a good line - but then in retrospect, it seems things don't go exactly as he states.

Don't get me wrong I was glad he won, but would I vote for him again ??

No way... because I'm watching our nations deficit skyrocket out of control, and I'm getting sick of that.

I sincerely worry about what it will be like 10, 15... 20 years from now here in the States...............

I definately don't see things improving no matter who is steering the ship, because the ultra rich call the shots, whether we choose to admit it or not, and they do not have the American people's best interests at heart.

Personally, I feel cheated - but then again, I've felt cheated ever since 1992 or so...................[/quote]


Doing nothing to correct the rapid climbing debt will haunt the US for generations. It has gone on long enough that there is no way to deny that the tax cuts have not paid for themselves. And, if we won't do something about the debt when things are going well, we will not be able to do anything about it later.
Future generations should look upon the one currently running things as the worse generation in our history.

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The security detail for him should not have to go abroad. On American soil ... I guess its what every ex president gets. But if he want to jet his lying (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) around the globe. He can pay for security out of his own ill gotten millions. Just my 2 cents


I don't see why an Ex-President should get any security detail from the gov't. They are citizens at this point, not gov't employees and should be treated as such.
Same with security clearances, once your out of the gov't they are gone, null and void.
What ever happens to them at this point has no bearing on the day to day operation of the country.

A waste of money we don't have, if they want security they should pay for it.

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Can you imagine how many groups and enemies of the USA would love to get their hands on a former president or one of his family? If one of the trumps were to be taken hostage after the donald leaves office, he'd sell the US down the river to satisfy whomever did it.

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Originally Posted by KeithC
What I hate the most about obama was that he was in a position to deal a serious blow to racism in the US and instead chose to fan the flames of hate to a higher level. Instead of saying the inflammatory statement, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon." obama should of said something like" There has been racial tension in our country for far to long, but as evidenced by my own election, most Americans have moved on and we will continue to move on together, into a brighter future, where race won't matter. Martin Luther King's dream that we will not be judged by the color of our skin, but by the content of our character, will be realised."

If obama had spoken up like that, when race was dividing our country, even with his numerous other mistakes, he still would have been a good president, overall, rather than a divisive and terrible president.

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Well said. Obama reversed everything MLK accomplished back to the early 1900s.


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I think Obama was one of the most(or the most) racist presidents in my lifetime. --Not that that means he should not have security after leaving office.

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The ambiguous phrase the liberal media uses in your quote to trick the gullible and undiscerning is "from commercial tenants like the state-owned Industrial & Commercial Bank of China." First off the phrase does not even mean the commercial Bank of China is a tenant. You can't tell from the quote. Second there is no definition of what they consider to be a similar commercial tenant. It's left to the reader's imagination what they mean. Third they don't even bother to list the name of a commercial tenant, except maybe the Bank of China.

Also how do the Forbes' writers even come up with their estimate? Were they fact checked?

Of course other countries are going to seek to influence our president. That does not make our president corrupt. From the tariffs Trump has imposed on China, it sure not appear their attempt to buy his influence has worked.

President Donald Trump's Blind Trust is managing his assets. He appears to be fully engaged in putting America first to me.

Keith[/quote]

They (Forbes) must not know Keith, if what crackle says is true....no one knows because he doesn't release enough info. In other words, it's j lust one more hit-piece that Trump haters point to. Fake news.

The liberals can't see past their hatred of trump to see that he's done more for the U.S.A. and its people than any president any of us can remember.

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Fake news:D Trump is a master trainer of parrots, ain't he?

Well, anyway, when he's gone from DC, he will need security. It will be up to us, the taxpayers, to pay for it--as it should be

BTW, I've seen no democrat in the race that I would vote for so far. We need a sane CONSERVATIVE to challenge all comers.

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I see the last couple decades completely different than you. Obama was as dumb/ bad a presidents Bush 43. They rank right up there as the worst in history, imo.
Bush was too dumb and pre-occupied with wars to stop Barney Frank from destroying our banking system which led to the housing bubble burst that brought things to a head.
The only good thing Obama did to shore up our economy was request the rest of the bail-out money Bush had left over. From that point on, he did everything to destroy the come-back. He is our only president to never reach 3 percent GDP or 3 percent economy growth as Resault. I think your the only person I've ever heard give Obama credit of economics, Democrat writers included.

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Bush 43(really dick C) was the worst pres in my life time so far. trump is running it close. If he starts into something with Iran, he will take his place.
As far as giving BO credit for a good economy, you must only listen to foxnews. Even Ben Stein, who has always hated Obama, said the economy is the only thing Obama manged that he deserves credit for improving.

But---they all deserve to be protected after leaving office.

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You know I am rich too. Rich in faith, rich in being loved by my children, rich in knowing I have this beautiful world to live in.


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Originally Posted by swift4me
The European media has made the Clintons and the Obamas to seem like the Kennedys. Camelot.

So sad. I explain the truth often at dinner parties and the golf course but my Basque neighbors at the farm already get it. Life is easy in a socialist country if you have a better job.

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I wonder if France gets reimbursed for the €55,000 they are spending for the Obamas security?


Eh...wot?

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Yep Big O was a financial genius. Cash for clunkers and CFL bulbs. Bush was a puppet. If either one had address the border the way they should have this mess wouldn't have happened. Eliminate cash under the table from foreign countries and term limits. Serve and go home.

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The donald lost over a billion in ten years as a business man. His own father's biggest loss one year was 54 million on an investment in some donald's deals.
Look at the climbing debt this country is amassing. A conservative would be doing something about that while times are good.
We must take in more and spend less. No politician is willing to do either.

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Originally Posted by gryhkl
The donald lost over a billion in ten years as a business man. His own father's biggest loss one year was 54 million on an investment in some donald's deals.
Look at the climbing debt this country is amassing. A conservative would be doing something about that while times are good.
We must take in more and spend less. No politician is willing to do either.

Made it all back and became President. How's your bank account and resume?


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I've never been bankrupt, never borrowed money from foreigners, and have paid off every debt I have even had.
My finances are good enough to have me pretty comfortable in my retirement. .
I have worked hard, saved, and been lucky with my investments. Probably best of all, my wife was able to stay home and raise our three boys 'til the entered Jr High
I'm a lucky guy and it all came honestly.

After donald leaves office, he will most likely finally be worth the amount he has always claimed he is.....and he will be entitled to taxpayer supported protection just like all past presidents are.

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Originally Posted by gryhkl
I've never been bankrupt, never borrowed money from foreigners, and have paid off every debt I have even had.
My finances are good enough to have me pretty comfortable in my retirement. .
I have worked hard, saved, and been lucky with my investments. Probably best of all, my wife was able to stay home and raise our three boys 'til the entered Jr High
I'm a lucky guy and it all came honestly.

After donald leaves office, he will most likely finally be worth the amount he has always claimed he is.....and he will be entitled to taxpayer supported protection just like all past presidents are.


Give us a ballpark figure on how many jobs you created?

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Every time crackle whines about trump, I have the picture in my mind of that snowflake on her knees bawling noooooooooo! Lol.

What a tool

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Jimmy Carter was the worst Pres. in recent history with Obama a close second. His growth of the economy was a joke, pretty easy to grow when it dropped by 40% just before taking office. Trump's spending at least bolstered the military, Obama spent a trillion on nonexistent shovel ready jobs. All you never Trumpers better hope he wins.

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I used to agree about Jimmy. I think he was the one of the best men who ever served, but he was not cut out for the job. When the dick/bush team got us into a never ending war over the 911 attacks, yet let SA get away with no consequences, put the country into an economic tailspin, they took the worse in my lifetime position.

With the current filed of democrats running, and no conservative challenger in the race, the next elected president will likely move the dick/bush team to second place on the worst list......I thought I'd never see two poorer choices than we had in the last election. 2020 will probably be just as bad.

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If Obama would have been Pres. during 911 he would have went to the middle east and apoligized for putting a building in the way of the plane. Terrible, ineffective, waste of space.

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Originally Posted by gryhkl
I used to agree about Jimmy. I think he was the one of the best men who ever served, but he was not cut out for the job. When the dick/bush team got us into a never ending war over the 911 attacks, yet let SA get away with no consequences, put the country into an economic tailspin, they took the worse in my lifetime position.

With the current filed of democrats running, and no conservative challenger in the race, the next elected president will likely move the dick/bush team to second place on the worst list......I thought I'd never see two poorer choices than we had in the last election. 2020 will probably be just as bad.

He said dick/bush uhhhuhhhuhhhuhh (beavis/butthead laugh)

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Originally Posted by hippie
I see the last couple decades completely different than you. Obama was as dumb/ bad a presidents Bush 43. They rank right up there as the worst in history, imo.
Bush was too dumb and pre-occupied with wars to stop Barney Frank from destroying our banking system which led to the housing bubble burst that brought things to a head.
The only good thing Obama did to shore up our economy was request the rest of the bail-out money Bush had left over. From that point on, he did everything to destroy the come-back. He is our only president to never reach 3 percent GDP or 3 percent economy growth as Resault. I think your the only person I've ever heard give Obama credit of economics, Democrat writers included.


What you fail to see is that they were just puppets.


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Originally Posted by gryhkl
The donald lost over a billion in ten years as a business man. His own father's biggest loss one year was 54 million on an investment in some donald's deals.
Look at the climbing debt this country is amassing. A conservative would be doing something about that while times are good.
We must take in more and spend less. No politician is willing to do either.


We can't do anything about the debt. We are a debt based society do to getting in business with the federal reserve (Thomas Jefferson warned us not to). If we dramatically lower the debt our dollar will lose a lot of value. If you want to get rid of the debt, it would be better to remove the federal reserve all together and create our own currency backed by something like it used to be. However, that would be financially painful to the country for a while.


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Have to agree with above, but add we will never see that debt cleared, only get larger, this country is no longer dependent on it's self to survive, like in the "old" day's.

Even trying to create a new currency would not do anything but throw the rest of this world into total chaos, we are stuck in a black hole that will just keep getting larger until it implodes on it's self !

That's not Trumps fault either !


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