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Selling a Gun / Shipping on Gunbroker? #6557463
06/17/19 10:34 AM
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I am planning on Selling a Rifle/ pistol on Gunbroker or another website. When the Firearm sells, what is the Shipping process or method and carrier you have used?

Thanks, Scott B.


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Re: Selling a Gun / Shipping on Gunbroker? [Re: 330-Trapper] #6557478
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I have a good friend who has a FFL so I just give it to him and he ships it to the other guys dealer. Don't know who he uses but never had any problems doing it this way.


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Re: Selling a Gun / Shipping on Gunbroker? [Re: 330-Trapper] #6557507
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you may ship via USPS if it is a long gun.

for modern cartridge pistols it is best to take to a dealer and they ship them to the other dealer different states have different laws about pistols

you may ship a long gun to the FFL on your own

you should make communication and verify info with the FFL before shipping.

you must bring the unloaded packaged gun to the post office already sealed in a box that has no marking indicating the content



it is not a bad idea to go and speak with your local postmaster with these printed out as many do not know the rules I did and after she read the rules she told me to bring it already sealed and she would ship it.

insure it for full replacment cost and postage so that should it not make it to the destination you are paid and able refund the buyer at no loss.

atf explanation of the rules https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonlicensee-ship-firearm-through-us-postal-service

USPS rules https://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/pub52c4_009.htm

gun broker suggestions https://support.gunbroker.com/hc/en-us/articles/222836508-Firearms-Shipping-Guide


I have only shipped long guns and cap and ball pistols via the USPS all went well each time.

Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 06/17/19 12:13 PM.

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Re: Selling a Gun / Shipping on Gunbroker? [Re: 330-Trapper] #6557524
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excellent post GCPete thanks


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Re: Selling a Gun / Shipping on Gunbroker? [Re: 330-Trapper] #6557538
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I deal with local gun shops ffl. They use UPS. I get all info, address name etc. I pack it. They contact buyers ffl and handle all that. Charge me $40 for ffl use. Most guns ship for $35

Re: Selling a Gun / Shipping on Gunbroker? [Re: 330-Trapper] #6557561
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GCPete has great info. The only thing that I will add is that some FFLs won't accept from private individuals (regardless of what the law allows) so best to have a caveat in your ad that if the buyer's FFL will not accept from a private individual additional charges will apply. That way if you need to pay a dealer on your end your are covered.

Also, licensed dealers can ship handguns to other licensed dealers through USPS priority so sometimes it is cheaper to simply ship through a dealer, even with their fees, then to go FedEx next or 2nd day. Before I got my FFL I remember paying close to $50 to ship a few handguns. My local dealer would do it for $40 and that included his fee and shipping.

Re: Selling a Gun / Shipping on Gunbroker? [Re: 330-Trapper] #6557603
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Mine is a Savage Striker S.S. in a .243 Win. So it is in between a Rifle and a Pistol with a thumbhole grip.

I dont know if its a Pistol or Rifle in USPS 's eyes?



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Re: Selling a Gun / Shipping on Gunbroker? [Re: 330-Trapper] #6561110
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Mine is a Savage Striker S.S. in a .243 Win. So it is in between a Rifle and a Pistol with a thumbhole grip.

I dont know if its a Pistol or Rifle in USPS 's eyes?



fir them I think they will be figuring barrel longer 16.0 inches or longer and a shoulder stock it is a rifle.

barrel less than 16 inches it is not going to ship USPS and should be done through a dealer to play it safe.

there are many that only fit the definition "firearm" play it safe on those and treat them like a pistol a "firearm" may be a shockwave shotgun or a shorter than 16 inch barrel with a pistol brace but that still makes >26 inches in length.

but since USPS quotes 431.2 I think it would consider most "firearms" as handguns
although the >26 inches for most common purposes means not or less concealable they don't necessarily have the understanding that not every gun fits rifle , shotgun or handgun, so play it safe.


431.2 Handguns
Pistols, revolvers, and other firearms capable of being concealed on the person (for example, short-barreled shotguns and short-barreled rifles) are defined as handguns. The following definitions apply:

Handgun (including pistols and revolvers) means any firearm which has a short stock, and is designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand and subject to 431.1, or a combination of parts from which a handgun can be assembled.
Other firearms capable of being concealed on the person include, but are not limited to, short-barreled shotguns and short-barreled rifles.
Short-barreled shotgun means a shotgun that has one or more barrels less than 18 inches long. The term short-barreled rifle means a rifle that has one or more barrels that are less than 16 inches long. These definitions include any weapon made from a shotgun or rifle, whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise, if such a weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches. A short-barreled shotgun or rifle of greater dimension may be regarded as nonmailable when it has characteristics to allow concealment on the person.


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Re: Selling a Gun / Shipping on Gunbroker? [Re: 330-Trapper] #6561407
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Yeah it's a 13.5" barrel, so I believe I'll list it as needing to ship FFL dealer to dealer.


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Re: Selling a Gun / Shipping on Gunbroker? [Re: 330-Trapper] #6561454
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
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Yeah it's a 13.5" barrel, so I believe I'll list it as needing to ship FFL dealer to dealer.


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Re: Selling a Gun / Shipping on Gunbroker? [Re: 330-Trapper] #6561727
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The Striker is considered a "handgun" in the eyes of the BATF.
Only a FFL dealer can ship a handgun thru the USPS and they must declare it as such and fill out the USPS form. The form is pretty simple and doesn't take much time. When a dealer ships a handgun thru the USPS it cost substantially less than UPS or Fedx.
Fedx and UPS have a policy of shipping handguns by 2 day air and it is costly.
I am an FFL and have been shipping guns for 15 years.
The reason most dealers will not receive guns from private individuals is you open up the box and you have no documentation as to who the gun came from and their physical address. I also required a copy of the sellers current drivers license.
BATF regulations state that a dealer has to enter not only all the information on the gun plus the exact legal name and physical address of who it came from in your record book within 24 hours or you are in VIOLATION and subject to what ever they want to charge you with.
You cannot do a background check on the new owner and transfer it to him because you don't have the proper information as to where it came from. The buyer gets ticked off because he has paid somebody for the gun and cannot get it until the dealer has the sellers information. It can turn into one heck of a mess with the dealer caught in the middle. After a few of these deals we decided no more receiving guns from private individuals'.
By law if you don't have the sellers information to enter it in the books the gun cannot be in your shops possession, but you've got it.
I went thru that mess several times and said no more.
I hope this sheds a little light on this situation from a dealers prospective.


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Re: Selling a Gun / Shipping on Gunbroker? [Re: 330-Trapper] #6562051
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Thanks Larry!!!


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